[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 09: Throne of Lies

[Reborn]

It doesn't make a difference if you decide to pursue them further after you got an answer.
What I'm saying is, both scum and town would stop following up after you got the answer that "it was a joke", so that's not a distinctive way to decide if you're town or not.

I never really said "thats distinctive way to decide I am townie". That's upto you all to decide based on my actions. I said this

It's picking up reactions which sometimes can get nit picky but I am reasonable enough to understand on what to follow up and what not to just like when I asked tac about flower, but I didn't follow up on it after tac and you gave answer that it was just a joke which made sense to me

my post clearly states that picking up reactions sometimes can get nit picky (because there is thin line between what's nit picking and what's not and it's often subjective) but I am reasonable enough to understand when to back out and this happens when I subconsciously feel that the answer given blend well with context and is not off.

I read the rules and what I find off is you believing that it is likely for an even smaller group of scums to pull off that, when you are hereby admitting that even in a 3-4 players scenario that would be unlikely.

You should be thinking that this is even more risky move for this game, but you are instead believing the opposite.

Also funny how you are mentioning the "experienced players factor" when it has nothing to do with it here since you are admitting yourself that such a manouver would be "unlikely" under 3-4 members.

I already answered this

Also, you guys have overlooked this post of mine where I kind of cleared al of scum buddying due to his meta being consitent but this became possibile for me only after getting reactions from him.

It's Only by repeated questioning and seeing the reaction that we deduce how consitent someone meta is to pin point Scums.

I take my scum buddying accusation on al and flower back. Doesn't seem to be the case at least not after I questioned them lol


As votes are concerned, then I am not in favor of lynching Lanji, tac and dark. I don't think anyone of them has made any slip substantial enough to push lynch on them that too on day one.

I am not finding AL game off. His reactions are calm and fine to me so his meta doesn't give any inconsistency vibe.

I am a bit suspicious on Flower because of her initial reaction on my questioning and then being inactive. It could be due to time difference so I will wait for more activity from her..

 

[Reborn]

Also, I am quite wary of those players who come between "being active" and ", totally inactive" that is just fulfilling bare minimum post requirement and not contributing much because that's the least risky and safest strategy for evil faction especially considering their numbers on day one

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Also, I am quite wary of those players who come between "being active" and ", totally inactive" that is just fulfilling bare minimum post requirement and not contributing much because that's the least risky and safest strategy for evil faction especially considering their numbers on day one

give names
lets be specific here

 

[Flower]

So far—It feels like Reborn is playing his usual meta. I don't understand Al Sama at all, so I guess he's doing his usual stuff too (based on limited exposure to him). Feels like Kiwi is taking a back seat so far, the fact she's Queen doesn't make her any less suspect. I also didn't see on the wiki how we get rid of a bad Queen, I assume that's through lynching though?

More players I'd like to hear from that usually have something to say when townie;

@Seraphoenix
@Cinera (I know he's busy, but if he has a moment to spare...)
@Queen
@LANJI CUCKSMOKE

How do you guys feel about the Reborn and Al Sama this game? They've been arguably the most vocal players, so it shouldn't be hard to get reads for them.


I've seen Neutralwatcher assume we have 2 Maf factions twice in the thread, so recent as page 7. So yeah, I think bringing up the basic rules and mechanics is a good move to circulate information. An ignorant town is a dead town.




I'm not sure I fully understand why you're lynching Dark Admiral here Flowa. I know it's probably more of a pressure vote but I feel like he's been pretty much barren by this point in the thread (when you vote him) and the above quote from the OP could be a reason why he believes the Unseen is the antagonists for the game.

But he even mentions the Cult King in the game, so it's not like he's solely focusing on the Unseen. Feels like he saw the OP and that's it, not that he made some slip up. What other reasons do you have for susing him?

What about Flowa's logic do you support? In regards to Dark Admiral? Because I don't think that's much of anything to go off of.

Why do you think they're scum buddying? I haven't seen anything in the thread that'd make that seem likely. Especially so early in the day phase. And the fact that we likely only start off with a small amount of scum (less than normal) kills that pretty evenly.

Because just as the post mentions the Unseen it also mentions the Cult. There is nothing indicating we have the Unseen in the game. The only way somebody would know that for sure was if they were in fact Unseen. This is why my vote stays on DA because to me that looks like a TMI slip.

 

[Reborn]

give names
lets be specific here

Krog, queen

There are some new players and I am not expecting much from them on day one so no reason to sus them for lack of activity from their side - zoro , nata and I guess Power and inflamed haki and fiji are also new.

Sera is also quite inactive

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Krog, queen

There are some new players and I am not expecting much from them on day one so no reason to sus them for lack of activity from their side - zoro , nata and I guess Power and inflamed haki and fiji are also new.

Sera is also quite inactive

queen has no comment so far which I find odd. sera was similar last game and I wont fault the two newbies

and you needed to mention evvvveryone in the game though too? You don't need to mention people if you have no reason to lol.

Its a bit confusing because he states something different. I'm going by what he said in signup

Not true.

Per game mechanics in signup thread



No where in the mechanics does it say that unseen can do what you suggest can do in drago's signup thread for the mechanics.

and you needed to mention evvvveryone in the game though too? You don't need to mention people if you have no reason to lol.

out of interest krog this aint your first game mate, rather than hopping on al's methods for getting a reaction out of everyone,seems like you got a better handle of it
give us your reads.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Because just as the post mentions the Unseen it also mentions the Cult. There is nothing indicating we have the Unseen in the game. The only way somebody would know that for sure was if they were in fact Unseen. This is why my vote stays on DA because to me that looks like a TMI slip.

are you saying its its either unseen or cult but not both
or are you saying its sus cause he said unseen and not cult which a blue dragon wouldnt know for sure.
not sure I follow.

 

[Seraphoenix]

Well there hasn't been much to bite on despite 13 pages. Most of it is game mechanics stuff.

 

[Seraphoenix]

I'm thinking that Al might be fulfilling some requirement of his role. One of his posts was very peculiar.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I'm thinking that Al might be fulfilling some requirement of his role. One of his posts was very peculiar.

which one
thinking he's doing it on purpose like a jester type role?

 

[Seraphoenix]

Mastermind for the Unseen and Cult Leader for the Cult, they can both convert, which means they can convert players at night, that's why a D1 lynch is important.

Top two lynch candidates?

 

[Seraphoenix]

which one
thinking he's doing it on purpose like a jester type role?

No idea but it certainly seems forced. I've never played this kind of setup so I don't know which kind of role would require you to post a certain way. In my experience though it's probably not a town role.

 

[Flower]

are you saying its its either unseen or cult but not both
or are you saying its sus cause he said unseen and not cult which a blue dragon wouldnt know for sure.
not sure I follow.

The latter, yes.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

The latter, yes.

but almost everyone here has been assuming that
its how final explained it to me
"Mastermind for the Unseen and Cult Leader for the Cult. "

I believe you are referring to this
"In the name of our Majesty the King, I've come here to serve as the shield the throne.
On the other news, since Unseen has been mentioned is it safe to assume we have no cult..?? Cause it's said there will be only one of them,"
whoa wtf
yall check this out.

 

[Natalija]

If you mean how do we find out if it's Unseen vs Cult, I answered that in my mechanics post. Unseen can kill and convert in a single night. Cult has to do one or the other and it's the better move to convert whenever they can.

So if by tomorrow we have no deaths? Cult. Otherwise Unseen.

Not necessarily, as I understood, the king can overturn decisions based on his allegiance and save someone? If no one dies, maybe the king is good. If someone dies, it's probably Unseen and an evil king?

@Dark Admiral voted for me far too easily, which makes me question if some role has a power that can recognize players immediately?

I can't reply to everyone and read everything because I just have no time today, but @TheAncientCenturion you're just asking questions as well, and you're on my list after the ladies. I have no idea what I am doing, hence the honesty. But I'm playing because Dragomir asked nicely ~

Tomorrow I will know for sure, but he was too hasty and not giving reasons about wanting to lynch me shows me really wants me dead for some evil reason. And since I just won't be around today:

Vote Lynch - Dark Admiral

 

[Ena]

Krog, queen

There are some new players and I am not expecting much from them on day one so no reason to sus them for lack of activity from their side - zoro , nata and I guess Power and inflamed haki and fiji are also new.

Sera is also quite inactive

queen has no comment so far which I find odd. sera was similar last game and I wont fault the two newbies



out of interest krog this aint your first game mate, rather than hopping on al's methods for getting a reaction out of everyone,seems like you got a better handle of it
give us your reads.

i still don't understand what is going on, like, not at all
I will wait for town to decide if it's unseen game or cult game before giving my reads, and that's probably not happening today

 

[Dark Admiral]

@Dark Admiral voted for me far too easily, which makes me question if some role has a power that can recognize players immediately?

why would you bring it up, if you're on BD..??

 

[Natalija]

why would you bring it up, if you're on BD..??

Because you voted for me immediately!! And maybe I’m a bother investigative Blue Dragon!

 

[Dark Admiral]

Because just as the post mentions the Unseen it also mentions the Cult. There is nothing indicating we have the Unseen in the game. The only way somebody would know that for sure was if they were in fact Unseen. This is why my vote stays on DA because to me that looks like a TMI slip.

I really wished I didn't have to explain it to an experienced and a good player like you. Here is the story posted in earlier;

"The corrupt King forges a meeting in the deepest reaches of the castle, calling upon his members of the Unseen. In this particular meeting, lives will be marked and soon forgotten. Strategies of betrayal are normal tactics within these grounds - it is commonly known here to shield your back, although, they say, it's better to keep your enemies closer..."

And here's what Drago said in the signups

Lore: this game contains an actual story! In each write-up, I will post the lore for you guys to read. It is actually very interesting.

Feel free to keep your votes on me though. But it will raise my suspicions on you.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Didn't find anything substantial in previous day Reborn - Al n Flower case.

Had Kiwi read Townie last night, bt Lanji pointing out her inconsistentency on Reborn being Townie picked my interest. Not much, bt something i think i should give a reread to, a king might be most imp player in this Game to us townies and so if we are to protect him, we need to be sure bout his alliegance.

Tac post was wild, bt also feel it was intentional, he just like messing up on 1st day.

Beta, Lanji feels Townie.

Natalija unusual gameplay for a noobie. Any other day, i would have sus her for this confidence and Game play as Mafia buddies coaching and helping her. Bt since Unseen/Cult only has 2 players at start i am expecting em to be experienced players.

No particular idea about Dark Gameplay, n Neutral is playing his usual game. Reborn also feels the same.
Al, these one liners is safe play, got something to hide @AL sama?

My major sus right nw is Flower. Timing of one of her posts gave me unusual feeling, so i am gonna give her posts a reread. This post here, it was mins after Reborn called her out on inactivity.

Because just as the post mentions the Unseen it also mentions the Cult. There is nothing indicating we have the Unseen in the game. The only way somebody would know that for sure was if they were in fact Unseen. This is why my vote stays on DA because to me that looks like a TMI slip.