The swastika is a symbol from asian religions. Very few people now about that chant,btw. Its isn't associeated with nazism/fascism at all. Except for leftie loonies ofc
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Bolsonaro used this in his campaign extensively.
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I think commie people are sick in the head too. What of it? Nobody is reading this fucking thread. This is a weeb forum. Nobody takes this seriously. Fake sympathy? I literally spent week in his house after he got out of hospital. I hanged him around since age 10. You don't know shit about me and don't bitch about your family when you yourself does the same to others. Hypocrite. That slogan is alive and well and its a conservative one in Brazil. There are no facist/nazi movements in Brazil. But of course,you left guys will always spin it that way.
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You guys go around insulting people personally and then pretend you do nothing. Grow a pair,man up.
That post of mine was serious , how is feeling bad for a victim of abuse an insult?
 
ohhh yeah? ask Boby what he thinks of you. I literally only spar like this with you and solis. Sometimes i say things that are very insulting by accidnet,because i'm not PC. Like when i called trans/lgbtq people looneys when talking with Kiku.
Bobby is a guy who thinks women shouldn't have the right to marry who they choose. He is an incel and a huge weirdo. Kiku is just a trans woman who minds her own business, you're just a piece of shit for the sake of it.
 
You grow a pair, stop being so desperate just so you can feel less humiliated after melting down and being a top tier cringelord. I owned up to everything and voiced my opinion in the matter.

ANd don't be a hypocrite, you insult people wayyy more than I do and out of the blue. At least my insults are built up after a heated conversation. You don't even have the self esteem to hold yourself up to any sort of principled standard.
My standards are pretty clear: The state shouldn't be intrusive. Communism doesnt belong in democracy,because they work against democracy and freedom. Homosexuality is a sin. Maybe i talked shit about it being a mental disorder,but i'm not sure about that jut yet. I need to read more. I perceive people that are openly gay to be seeking validation.
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You have to search for one year old troll posts that you post without context 🤣🤣🤣 what did you say that rayanoo deleted?🤣
The point was about you guys making things personal. I got threanned with the axe for what i said to Kiku. But apparently you can talk about my family with no consequences whatsoever. It is double standards. Its pretty clear the mods protect you guys.
 
My standards are pretty clear: The state shouldn't be intrusive. Communism doesnt belong in democracy,because they work against democracy and freedom. Homosexuality is a sin. Maybe i talked shit about it being a mental disorder,but i'm not sure about that jut yet. I need to read more. I perceive people that are openly gay to be seeking validation.
Anti gay exorcisms cause depression and suicidality, who would have thought :pepeke:
 
The state shouldn't be intrusive. Communism doesnt belong in democracy,
The fact that you don't see the contradiction here is hilarious. Or maybe you do and you just let your own biases get the better of you so you cherry pick the aspects of free speech and the free choice of political affiliation that you like.
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Anti gay exorcisms cause depression and suicidality, who would have thought :pepeke:
One of my neighbors went down that road after his indian mother alienated him from the family.
 
Still waiting about the French gov and Nato statments about the Amazon Forest to be adressed,btw. The french literally have colonies in this century. I really doubt they care about this for humanitarian reason.
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The fact that you don't see the contradiction here is hilarious. Or maybe you do and you just let your own biases get the better of you so you cherry pick the aspects of free speech and the free choice of political affiliation that you like.
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One of my neighbors went down that road after his indian mother alienated him from the family.
Contradiction?Communism preaches for a centralized state. This is an intrusive state.
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The fact that you don't see the contradiction here is hilarious. Or maybe you do and you just let your own biases get the better of you so you cherry pick the aspects of free speech and the free choice of political affiliation that you like.
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One of my neighbors went down that road after his indian mother alienated him from the family.
My notion of free speech is different then the American one. You can't preach nazism,fascism,racism and be an apologist of crimes in Brazil. So there are things you can't say under the threat of legal penalty.
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You call someone the N word around here you go to jail. The KKK is still around,btw.
 
Contradiction?Communism preaches for a centralized state. This is an intrusive state.
You conflate a communist state with the freedom to run for political office as someone who identifies as a communist. If you bar people from running for office due to political affiliation then you don't actually believe in democracy or freedom of speech.

Again, you work backward from your conclusion and you hold no principled belief in this matter. You let your personal biases determine what you say regardless of the ideology you claim to have. You're all feelings.
 
Damn, I'm sorry but this is loser behavior. Digging up old ass posts in order to mask up your own shame. It's been well established that I'm more well read than you and have a better grasp on these things since they were part of my bachelor's degree.

Let me give you some advice, walk away. You'll end up having a bigger meltdown and maybe getting banned.
Lets keep this going and see if you are that good,Mr.bachelor.
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Bobby is a guy who thinks women shouldn't have the right to marry who they choose. He is an incel and a huge weirdo. Kiku is just a trans woman who minds her own business, you're just a piece of shit for the sake of it.
I didnt know Kiku was trans,now that explains everything.
 
This the honour this guy has. Exposing private PMs in a public discussion.
@Ravagerblade

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ohhh yeah? ask Boby what he thinks of you. I literally only spar like this with you and solis. Sometimes i say things that are very insulting by accidnet,because i'm not PC. Like when i called trans/lgbtq people looneys when talking with Kiku.
 
You conflate a communist state with the freedom to run for political office as someone who identifies as a communist. If you bar people from running for office due to political affiliation then you don't actually believe in democracy or freedom of speech.

Again, you work backward from your conclusion and you hold no principled belief in this matter. You let your personal biases determine what you say regardless of the ideology you claim to have. You're all feelings.
Democracy has nothing to with left x right,communist vs conservative and so on. Its about majority vote. There will still be elections,voting and stuff. Its just that communist parties will be no more. Just like nazi/facist parties aren't a thing anymore. How hard is it to understand that you can have democracy without communism in it?I guess the entirety of Europe is anti-democracy too. Good luck running as a nazi or facist. I guess the Polish don't like the democracy too:
According to Article 13 of the Polish Constitution
Political parties and other organizations referring in their programs to the totalitarian methods and practices of Nazism, fascism and communism, as well as those whose program or activity presupposes or allows racial and national hatred and the use of violence to gain power or influence state policy are forbidden to exist.​

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default...es/Expression/ICCPR/Vienna/Annexes/Poland.pdf
 
Next says communism was never applied.
No it wasn't. Like never in fact. We would live in a very different society if this was the case. What happened is the twisted usage of some of the doctrine of communism as tools for authoritarian regimes.

No,i'm not advocating for the deaths of idiots like you.
Ok

Oh you are going to be mad at me?FUCK YOU AND ALL THAT YOU STAND FOR,YOU CLOWN.GET A FUCKING JOB.NOBODY READS THIS SHIT.YOU ARE NOT DOING JACK SHIT WIT YOUR LIFE
I've heard James Bond villains deliver better speaches.


My guy, I was defending you from those who would call you the worst user here. I only said you’re conceited cause you are.
Welp, I've learned a new word tonight


Imagine being pro-armed population,freedom of commerce,miniumum state and so on and being a fascist
Fascism is not a fixed ideology. Its an ideology that can adapt to different systems. Also important point, fascism is not just a established system. Fascism start in our heads.

If you want to see if you are a potential fascist or not, instead of looking at your liberatariannism, lets look at what you are and what you believe in... Antifascist Umberto Eco, who lived under fascism and was educated with fascism, reduced the key element sof the core principles of fascism that he called UR fascism (eternal fascism) in 14 points:

- The cult of tradition. Do find yourself defending your values, your heritage and your traditions mate ? If yes, you can check this parameter.

- The rejection of modernism. Looking at the way you act toward social sciences and progressism, I'd say you are right under the radar here. I will check this parameter for you.

- The cult of action for action. Its the notion that actions are better than thinking. Its the principle of acting because acting is what makes us live. Do you find yourself in that ? If yes, check this parameter.

- Disagreement is treason. The notion that disagreeing with your ideology would be like betraying you. Its the notion that consider that critic of the hegemony is problematic. Looking at the way you critic woke people who critic the capitalist system, I'd say that this point is also for you. Parameters checked.

- Fear of difference. Are you against intruders, migrants and overall minorities in general ? Just a question... If yes, you can check this parameter.

- Appeal to social frustration. Well you are lucky, this is someting that I've never seen you do. But the moment you start believing that - let's say for example - people who don't work are "parasite".. you can check this point.

- The obsession with a plot. This is the notion that follower of fascism must feel besieged. This must therefore be help by a form of paranoya that there is a "plot" concerning the civilisation of the follower.. Little question, do you believe that leaders of the world wants to create a negative "new world order" through leftism ? If yes, then you can check this parameters too.

- The enemy is both strong and weak. Did you ever said to yourself that the leftist ideology was a major danger of the world, but also that those people were just "pussies" or a bunch of white knights with no real and strong values ?" If yes, you can check this parameter.

- Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. In Ur fascism, there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle. If you find yourself in this affirmation, check this point.

- Contempt for the weak. Have you ever said to yourself that poor people are just weak people who are doing nothing to up their chances at life and made the wrong choices and that Billionnaire are people worthy of great respect ? If yes, that would be a form of elitism and you can therefore check this parameter.

- Everybody is educated to become a hero. Do you believe in the idea that great men shape the world ? And the more great men we have, the better the world will be ? If yes, you can check this parameter.

- Selective populism. If you that the emotional response of a selected group of citizen can be presented and accepted as the voice of the people, let's say for example if you think that the hate of leftism is shared by the entire world, well you can check this parameter.

- Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. This is the vision that the impoverished vocabulary and elementary syntax are good tool to create a better society. For example, if you think that the speeches of Donald Trump are amazing for the comprehension of society, you can check this parameter.

So, how many parameters did you checked ? If you added none to those I checked, good, you are not a potential fascist, just a far rightist a little bit lost. But if you check a majority of the point.. start asking yourself some questions.

You are a fascist, and I don’t throw that label Willy nilly like c4n
I never throw that label mate
:kayneshrug:

If you see me one day label someone "a fascist" on this forum.. be sure to check that they are still whitelisted here 24 hours later. Because I won't rest until they are nuked out of the forum one way or another. I'm not joking with fascism.



called me genocidal apologist/denier because i debunked the myth that the portuguese went around killing the native brazilians.
Yes you are. I demonstrated the existence of this genocide with numbers and documentation by researchers.

If you keep denying this genocide done by portuguese people (but also by others), you are a genocide denier. Simple as that. Don't make me put you in the same box as Herrera.


they literally brought civilization to people that lived stone age style
When we talk about human behaviors, a civilisation is not mesured by the level of technology, but by the level of humanity.

Those people builded entire nations where the land was common and shared. Those people were far more civilized than those who came to destroyed them even if they didn't have the technological advantages.

So come back to earth a little for once and stop with the colonialist and frankly racist mindset.


Keyword "body" bro
This doesn't change my argument mate :/


Now im really confused, because this is the definition people base their statement "there are two genders" on. Its the gender roles definition of gender.

But im 100% sure you dont agree with there being two genders, so you kinda have to subscribe to the definition about gender identity, or not?
What those definitions explain is that sociologically gender is a social construct. Its simple as that.

And it doesn't say that there are only two gender, its say that in our society genders refer to the norm associated with the notion of being a man or a women. Which means that gender can take very different shapes. In reality there is an large quantity of what we call gender because there is a larg way of associating the norm we link with the notion of being a man or a woman with the way some people live.

Gender is a spectrum. Sometimes even a spectrum that can evolve in time. A spectrum that represent the oscillation of the norm we put on social construct relative to feminity and masculinity. Its not two fixed point, its the reflexion of the social constructs people attributed themself with.

I short, there are not two genders, but 5, 10, maybe even a hundred depending on who you are, what culture you are born into and the way you are internally evolving.

What people are confusing with gender are sexual characteristics and even then this is also not binary.
Why press and not activists groups or something?
Independant press IS a form of activism.

People might have forgotten it, but journalism is not supposed to be neutral. Journalism is supposed to be the weapon of the people against those who are in power. Journalism is supposed to be a counter power. And right now... mainstream journalism are following the line of the powers : liberalism.



You can see a similar fascist incantation under the words "Work, family, patry" in France's Vichy's regim under Nazi occupation.

Ironically (not really), you will sometimes here the same words repeated by neoliberals and "centrist" in France nowadays..


like, i wouldnt wear anything like in my signature in public lmao
I remember that when I was very little (10 or so), I loved to draw Svatikas everywhere on school tables, I didn't knew what Nazism was or why it was so bad at the time, I only knew that I loved drawing the shape. I felt robbed the day I understood I could never draw them again..

I hope one day someone will have the guts and courage to take back this symbol out of fascist's hands.

Communism doesnt belong in democracy,because they work against democracy and freedom
Not really no.
 
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Democracy has nothing to with left x right,communist vs conservative and so on. Its about majority vote. There will still be elections,voting and stuff. Its just that communist parties will be no more. Just like nazi/facist parties aren't a thing anymore. How hard is it to understand that you can have democracy without communism in it?I guess the entirety of Europe is anti-democracy too. Good luck running as a nazi or facist. I guess the Polish don't like the democracy too:
According to Article 13 of the Polish Constitution
Political parties and other organizations referring in their programs to the totalitarian methods and practices of Nazism, fascism and communism, as well as those whose program or activity presupposes or allows racial and national hatred and the use of violence to gain power or influence state policy are forbidden to exist.​

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default...es/Expression/ICCPR/Vienna/Annexes/Poland.pdf
I'm no european, much less a pole. The people speak in this country. There's no communists in government even tho there's been communist and nazi candidates before.

There's communist parties in europe dumb dumb, and sometime they're elected to government, regardless of how minuscule their numbers are.
 
No it wasn't. Like never in fact. We would live in a very different society if this was the case. What happened is the twisted usage of some of the doctrine of communism as tools for authoritarian regimes.


Ok


I've heard James Bond villains deliver better speaches.



Welp, I've learned a new word tonight



Fascism is not a fixed ideology. Its an ideology that can adapt to different systems. Also important point, fascism is not just a established system. Fascism start in our heads.

If you want to see if you are a potential fascist or not, instead of looking at your liberatariannism, lets look at what you are and what you believe in... Antifascist Umberto Eco, who lived under fascism and was educated with fascism, reduced the key element sof the core principles of fascism that he called UR fascism (eternal fascism) in 14 points:

- The cult of tradition. Do find yourself defending your values, your heritage and your traditions mate ? If yes, you can check this parameter.

- The rejection of modernism. Looking at the way you act toward social sciences and progressism, I'd say you are right under the radar here. I will check this parameter for you.

- The cult of action for action. Its the notion that actions are better than thinking. Its the principle of acting because acting is what makes us live. Do you find yourself in that ? If yes, check this parameter.

- Disagreement is treason. The notion that disagreeing with your ideology would be like betraying you. Its the notion that consider that critic of the hegemony is problematic. Looking at the way you critic woke people who critic the capitalist system, I'd say that this point is also for you. Parameters checked.

- Fear of difference. Are you against intruders, migrants and overall minorities in general ? Just a question... If yes, you can check this parameter.

- Appeal to social frustration. Well you are lucky, this is someting that I've never seen you do. But the moment you start believing that - let's say for example - people who don't work are "parasite".. you can check this point.

- The obsession with a plot. This is the notion that follower of fascism must feel besieged. This must therefore be help by a form of paranoya that there is a "plot" concerning the civilisation of the follower.. Little question, do you believe that leaders of the world wants to create a negative "new world order" through leftism ? If yes, then you can check this parameters too.

- The enemy is both strong and weak. Did you ever said to yourself that the leftist ideology was a major danger of the world, but also that those people were just "pussies" or a bunch of white knights with no real and strong values ?" If yes, you can check this parameter.

- Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. In Ur fascism, there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle. If you find yourself in this affirmation, check this point.

- Contempt for the weak. Have you ever said to yourself that poor people are just weak people who are doing nothing to up their chances at life and made the wrong choices and that Billionnaire are people worthy of great respect ? If yes, that would be a form of elitism and you can therefore check this parameter.

- Everybody is educated to become a hero. Do you believe in the idea that great men shape the world ? And the more great men we have, the better the world will be ? If yes, you can check this parameter.

- Selective populism. If you that the emotional response of a selected group of citizen can be presented and accepted as the voice of the people, let's say for example if you think that the hate of leftism is shared by the entire world, well you can check this parameter.

- Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. This is the vision that the impoverished vocabulary and elementary syntax are good tool to create a better society. For example, if you think that the speeches of Donald Trump are amazing for the comprehension of society, you can check this parameter.

So, how many parameters did you checked ? If you added none to those I checked, good, you are not a potential fascist, just a far rightist a little bit lost. But if you check a majority of the point.. start asking yourself some questions.


I never throw that label mate
:kayneshrug:

If you see me one day label someone "a fascist" on this forum.. be sure to check that they are still whitelisted here 24 hours later. Because I won't rest until they are nuked out of the forum one way or another. I'm not joking with fascism.




Yes you are. I demonstrated the existence of this genocide with numbers and documentation by researchers.

If you keep denying this genocide done by portuguese people (but also by others), you are a genocide denier. Simple as that. Don't make me put you in the same box as Herrera.



When we talk about human behaviors, a civilisation is not mesured by the level of technology, but by the level of humanity.

Those people builded entire nations where the land was common and shared. Those people were far more civilized than those who came to destroyed them even if they didn't have the technological advantages.

So come back to earth a little for once and stop with the colonialist mindset.



This doesn't change my argument mate :/



What those definitions explain is that sociologically gender is a social construct. Its simple as that.

And it doesn't say that there are only two gender, its say that in our society genders refer to the norm associated with the notion of being a man or a women. Which means that gender can take very different shapes. In reality there is an large quantity of what we call gender because there is a larg way of associating the norm we link with the notion of being a man or a woman with the way some people live.

Gender is a spectrum. Sometimes even a spectrum that can evolve in time. A spectrum that represent the oscillation of the norm we put on social construct relative to feminity and masculinity. Its not two fixed point, its the reflexion of the social constructs people attributed themself with.

I short, there are not two genders, but 5, 10, maybe even a hundred depending on who you are, what culture you are born into and the way you are internally evolving.

What people are confusing with gender are sexual characteristics and even then this is also not binary.

Independant press IS a form of activism.

People might have forgotten it, but journalism is not supposed to be neutral. Journalism is supposed to be the weapon of the people against those who are in power. Journalism is supposed to be a counter power. And right now... mainstream journalism are following the line of the powers : liberalism.




You can see a similar fascist incantation under the words "Work, family, patry" in France's Vichy's regim under Nazi occupation.

Ironically (not really), you will sometimes here the same words repeated by neoliberals and "centrist" in France nowadays..



I remember that when I was very little (10 or so), I loved to draw Svatikas everywhere on school tables, I didn't knew what Nazism was or why it was so bad at the time, I only knew that I loved drawing the shape. I felt robbed the day I understood I could never draw them again..

I hope one day someone will have the guts and courage to take back this symbol out of fascist's hands.


Not really no.
dont quote me,i'm not reading your stuff or debating you.
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His desperation is palpable.
you keep baiting,making strawmans and dodging stuff. Am i really the one that is desperate?
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I'm no european, much less a pole. The people speak in this country. There's no communists in government even tho there's been communist and nazi candidates before.

There's communist parties in europe dumb dumb, and sometime they're elected to government, regardless of how minuscule their numbers are.
There aren't and that is the problem. There shouldn't be. The poles think nazi=facist=communist and i agree with that. The US should have invaded Russia after they were done with Hitler,but because they didn't,we now have to deal with communist all over the place.
 
you keep baiting,making strawmans and dodging stuff. Am i really the one that is desperate?
Bro I've been as thorough as humanly possible :suresure:

You're just in your feelings cause you can't get over your personal biases and hold a principled stance even if you life depended on it. Stop projecting my guy, I'm not the one digging up messages from a year ago, calling other users to defend me, and bitchting to the mods cause they don't like me. It's beyond pathetic, and hilarious.
 
I'm no european, much less a pole. The people speak in this country. There's no communists in government even tho there's been communist and nazi candidates before.

There's communist parties in europe dumb dumb, and sometime they're elected to government, regardless of how minuscule their numbers are.
My point was you can have democracy without communism being legal. You keep dodging my arguments.
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Bro I've been as thorough as humanly possible :suresure:

You're just in your feelings cause you can't get over your personal biases and hold a principled stance even if you life depended on it. Stop projecting my guy, I'm not the one digging up messages from a year ago, calling other users to defend me, and bitchting to the mods cause they don't like me. It's beyond pathetic, and hilarious.
Will you prove that taking out communism party of the election game is anti-democratic or will you keep dodging?
 
My point was you can have democracy without communism being legal. You keep dodging my arguments.
Then you restrict the freedom of the citizens to advocate for their beliefs in a democratic way. That's what many institutions would label as a flawed democracy, since you don't have the liberty to express your beliefs in a democratic way.
 
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