Powers & Abilities ACoC strength level

[nik87]

Oden's Sword, and basic CoC got more props from Kaido, than Zoro did.....

If that how you choose to cope with Zoro>Luffy, so be it.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

If that how you choose to cope with Zoro>Luffy, so be it.

I don't have to cope with the headcannon of a few hardcore Zoro fans. Yall got your balls tingling because Zoro needed Asura to win a clash with no named attack, no Haki Kaido after 2 seconds.... Lmao

Luffy got more recognition from Kaido with a single punch (Even Law, Kidd, Killer and Zoro was shocked by Luffy), than Zoro got throughout the entirety of the rooftop.

 

[nik87]

I don't have to cope with the headcannon of a few hardcore Zoro fans.

Luffy got more recognition from Kaido with a single punch (Even Law, Kidd, Killer and Zoro was shocked by Luffy), than Zoro got throughout the entirety of the rooftop.

Actually, you do.
Words of praise are never as good as feats.
Doesnt matter how much you praise a weakling, he stays a weakling.
Strong people dont need praise.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Actually, you do.
Words of praise are never as good as feats.
Doesnt matter how much you praise a weakling, he stays a weakling.
Strong people dont need praise.

Come find me when Zoro doesn't need Asura to clash with a Top Tier using a basic no named attack, and no haki.

 

[nik87]

Come find me when Zoro doesn't need Asura to clash with a Top Tier using a basic no named attack, and no haki.

Come find me when Luffy without aCoC is capable of clashing with the same top tier.

 

[suzaku]

Zoro wasn't stronger than luffy at any point of the story + zoro already used 3 swords vs lucci and still couldn't win.

What determines your ACoC strength is the ability to split the sky with yonkos.

Luffy and linlin split the sky with kaido, zoro and yamato didn't, you already know who's stronger.

Honestly this zkk guys makes me think about what kind of training zoro did to be stronger than guys like kaido big mom primebeard prime Roger, prime Garp, mihawk(@nik87 thinks zoro is already on his level), Shanks, Ray etc. Like I get why they shit goofy but the other top tiers I don't understand? Why's zoro so far above everything in one piece?

 

[сука]

Not true

But does Lucci have better feats than Luffy before he started fighting Kaido 1v1?

 

[Artem]

Zoro on the roof >>>Goofy. Zoro without acoc = A scar on kaido without 30 bones and a Hakaya stop. Goofy without acoc = SAVE ME ZOROOO THREE TIMES

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Well he does have Armament Haki now so most swordsmen wouldn't be a problem for him, it's just that a fight between him and a swordsman would be more boring than a fight between two swordsmen

Armament haki didn't stop :
- Hody from almost eating him alive
- Cracker from almost cutting his arm (the sword went halfway through the arm lmao)
- Kaido with his weak ass air slashes damaging him
- Kizaru's clone from cutting his cheek

Luffy is weak against cuts since forever.
The argument that says ''not weaker than others'' is invalid unless you recognize that blades AP > punches. I know, duh right ? Not so obvious for many probably because they'd have to accept that Zoro ap > Luffy ap but this is another subject.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Armament haki didn't stop :
- Hody from almost eating him alive
- Cracker from almost cutting his arm (the sword went halfway through the arm lmao)
- Kaido with his weak ass air slashes damaging him
- Kizaru's clone from cutting his cheek

Luffy is weak against cuts since forever.
The argument that says ''not weaker than others'' is invalid unless you recognize that blades AP > punches. I know, duh right ? Not so obvious for many probably because they'd have to accept that Zoro ap > Luffy ap but this is another subject.

He did stop Kaidou's slashes with Armament lol. Quit cherrypicking

 

[M944]

Luffy improved his haki since chapter 1010.

So you can at best say Zoro > Luffy 1010 in terms of CoC

But Sksplitting 1026 Luffy shitstomps stallman Zolo

Nope 1010 Luffy have better CoC as he won't die from using it for 5min

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

But does Lucci have better feats than Luffy before he started fighting Kaido 1v1?

Lucci clashed with G5 Luffy… that will never not be true and never not be impressive… Literally Saturn and Kizaru haven’t done this

 

[Artem]

Nope 1010 Luffy have better CoC as he won't die from using it for 5min

Zoro was "dying" from the bulge of a huge amount of coa (ryoo).

 

[LolonoisZolo]

He did stop Kaidou's slashes with Armament lol. Quit cherrypicking

Chapter 1047 shows otherwise...
Page 8 or 9.
Even Kaido mentions that he is still weak to slashes in G5...

 

[Shasha23]

Nope 1010 Luffy have better CoC as he won't die from using it for 5min

are you trying to apply for another L?

 

[M944]

Zoro was "dying" from the bulge of a huge amount of coa (ryoo).

Nope from Haki
Haki reserve is finite and common for the 3 type of Haki
If you run out of one type you can't use the others types of Haki too
When Luffy runs out of CoA he can't use CoO too

 

[nik87]

Why's zoro so far above everything in one piece?

Because he was made to be so far above everything else.

 

[Artem]

Nope from Haki
Haki reserve is finite and common for the 3 type of Haki
If you run out of one type you can't use the others types of Haki too
When Luffy runs out of CoA he can't use CoO too

So you agree that Zoro's problems were precisely because he was releasing a huge amount of coa to stabilize the enma, and not because of the weakness of his acoc.

 

[сука]

Lucci clashed with G5 Luffy… that will never not be true and never not be impressive… Literally Saturn and Kizaru haven’t done this

Funny how Nika is still "Luffy" to you but Zoro using Asura is a completely separate entity and doesn't even count as Zoro's feat anymore.


I said it before, but you give off peak "I like Zoro....BUT" energy, like a triple agent or some shit.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Chapter 1047 shows otherwise...
Page 8 or 9.
Even Kaido mentions that he is still weak to slashes in G5...

Of course he is when he's not using Armament lol