What Marines know about the Ancient Weapons?


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So Vegapunk doesn't know who stole part of the Mother Flame or for what outside of reviving an ancient weapon, and the recording was made before Lulusia was destroyed, yet he somehow knows Lulusia was targeted despite that there's no way he could've known that since the only way he could've known it would be destroyed is if he already knew that Sabo was there and would be blabbing about Imu beforehand?
 
My prediction:
Imu was an alien from a certain clan who lived on earth for some reason, he was part of Joyboy's crew, and Lili too, Imu really loved her, but at some point Lili ate some strange mythical zoan devil fruit that controlled her body and made her attack Joyboy. In desperation, she ended up killing herself by stabbing herself in the heart with Joyboy's sword. When Imu arrives and sees Lili dead, making it look like Joyboy killed Lili, Imu has a mental breakdown and an explosion of hate. Now he wants to destroy this world and create a perfect world by enslaving the filthy humans who killed her love.
 
My prediction:
Imu was an alien from a certain clan who lived on earth for some reason, he was part of Joyboy's crew, and Lili too, Imu really loved her, but at some point Lili ate some strange mythical zoan devil fruit that controlled her body and made her attack Joyboy. In desperation, she ended up killing herself by stabbing herself in the heart with Joyboy's sword. When Imu arrives and sees Lili dead, making it look like Joyboy killed Lili, Imu has a mental breakdown and an explosion of hate. Now he wants to destroy this world and create a perfect world by enslaving the filthy humans who killed her love.
Bootleg version of Obito Rin Kakashi:shocked:
 
Imu is mad at Lily because she betrayed them at final moment, because of her War is still ongoing
Her portrait its seems to be in ruins of Pangea Castle or somewhere hidden -
Plus i think others 19 Kingdoms, king & Queen are also there
 
Nah, the past and current practices make the WG inherently evil: slavery, executions, mass bombings of innocent civilians, etc. I am not sure how that is NOT inherently evil.
The in-verse "good guys" disagree with you =>
- Vegapunk said twice that he doesn't know who was right or wrong - it was a clash of two competing ideologies
- Roger pirates learned the history but stayed quiet and didnt challenge the "evil" WG. Rayleigh cares more about the fun and excitement of the young generation rather than those "atrocities" committed by WG
- Sengoku seems to know everything - didn't revolt and stayed loyal to the WG till the end
 
The in-verse "good guys" disagree with you =>
- Vegapunk said twice that he doesn't know who was right or wrong - it was a clash of two competing ideologies
- Roger pirates learned the history but stayed quiet and didnt challenge the "evil" WG. Rayleigh cares more about the fun and excitement of young gen rather than those "atrocities" committed by WG
- Sengoku seems to know everything - didn't revolt and stayed loyal to the WG till the end
It will be funny if "Good guys" become evil/corrupted after 800 years
But i agree, we don't know who was right or wrong
 
The in-verse "good guys" disagree with you =>
- Vegapunk said twice that he doesn't know who was right or wrong - it was a clash of two competing ideologies
- Roger pirates learned the history but stayed quiet and didnt challenge the "evil" WG. Rayleigh cares more about the fun and excitement of the young generation rather than those "atrocities" committed by WG
- Sengoku seems to know everything - didn't revolt and stayed loyal to the WG till the end
But he only says that because he figured out but a small part of history and doesn't understand why Joyboy would like to pass the ancient weapons to the next generations.

Rayleigh wants the young generation to figure out themselves, but said himself that he is sick of the atrocities committed by the WG, just that they couldn't do anything about it. We also had Dragon leaving the Marines and opposing the WG, saying it is rotten and corrupted.

I mean, what does "inherently evil" mean anyways? It's Doffy's speech all over again, that history and what's right and wrong is decided by the winner.
 

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But he only says that because he figured out but a small part of history and doesn't understand why Joyboy would like to pass the ancient weapons to the next generations.

Rayleigh wants the young generation to figure out themselves, but said himself that he is sick of the atrocities committed by the WG, just that they couldn't do anything about it. We also had Dragon leaving the Marines and opposing the WG, saying it is rotten and corrupted.

I mean, what does "inherently evil" mean anyways? It's Doffy's speech all over again, that history and what's right and wrong is decided by the winner.
If Ak is all good and WG is all evil then there was no need for Rayleigh to say this.




If we couple this statement with what VP says then it's clear oda is dropping a hint about AK perhaps not being all good.


There has to be a reason why 20 kingdoms rose against AK.

There has to be a reason why Lily a D fought against Ak.

Perhaps AK wasn't all good and joyboy realised it and that's why he sail to get freedom.
 
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