Controversial General Political Discussion

[Saturn-sama]

It's absolute american-centric nonsense, a second us-american civil war would be caused at absolute worst.

I know woke germans are that dumb, but try at least once thinking further than one.

Do you know what a full civil war in the US would do?

The dollar market would go down into the bin, Russia, China and Iran would fucking use the chaos invading Taiwan, pushing further than Ukraine, Israel with Iran. NATO would be in chaos..

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He would always wear a mask even after covid a classmate said.

just google tour de france masking!!!! Outside masking in 2024!!!!

Even the fxxing radical covid policies pusher acknowledged masking outside makes 0 sense. Unbelievable what the clowns from Tour de France can do

 

[Saturn-sama]

However, if Trump died, and some MAGA/Q cultists would start a civil war, other countries can do some shenanigans that could cause WW3, that's a more realistic scenario

Not like a conflict isn't inevitable, we're having a Cold War 2 lite now, China is rumored to invade Taiwan in 2027, and crazy shit is going on all over. One major event can cause all of these to escalate even more.

Oh really that‘s literally what I said you blueAnon cultist

 

[Logiko]

That’s a convenient reductionism to push a specific agenda.

In this case, its perfectly pertinent.

Left wing media always incited hatred towards anyone even slightly right of center politics.

Can you name those "leftist media" ?

Also vilifying Trump as being similar to Hitler and clearly that sort of false rhetoric has consequences.

You mean, like Trump asking people to march on the capitol ? Like Trump aknowledging far right supremacist ? Like Trump hating on the woke and trans people ?

Yes, those things have real impact.

Us saying that Trump is dangerous is a fact and the only consequence is more screentime for Trump.

Holy fuck I'm losing IQ just by engaging with you

You don't need me for that mate

Earlier you said you can have knowledge without truth

No didn't say that



I said that knowledge isn't truth, not the same thing.

now you say you can choose to behave according to rules without free will

Its called "living with the illusion".

Nothing fancy. But I get it. Its hard for you to understand the idea or even the concept of the absence of free will.

His reasoning skills are on the level of ChatGPT 2

Funny coming from a person with a far right meme on signature referencing a anarchist manga lol

Look at his posts in his bio, he is fucked

What post ? Share with the class

Logiko freakout compilation?

I'm against killing so...

He would always wear a mask even after covid a classmate said.

You know people are still dying from Covid, right ?

 

[RyoQ]

Like Trump hating on the woke and trans people ?

Depravedness across all sectors will be banned

 

[Logiko]

So can we have knowledge, without truth?

Of course

For example, Newton's law of universal gravity was a form of knowledge. But its wasn't the truth.

Depravedness across all sectors will be banned

I wonder how many month you will manage to stay on this forum

 

[RyoQ]

Of course

Yeah so you do think knowledge is possible without truth

For example, Newton's law of universal gravity was a form of knowledge. But its wasn't the truth.

Inductive reasoning such as Newton's law of universal gravity builds off of true things, to reach a conclusion that is probable.

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I wonder how many month you will manage to stay on this forum

I wonder how long you'll stay in the US during Trump's upcoming reign

 

[Logiko]

Yeah so you do think knowledge is possible without truth

I literally demonstrated to you how we can have knowledge without truth in one sentence. You don't really pay much attention, do ya ?

Inductive reasoning such as Newton's law of universal gravity builds off of true things, to reach a conclusion that is probable.

Probable, yes, not the truth.

I wonder how long you'll stay in the US during Trump's upcoming reign

I'm french Einstein.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I'm french Einstein.

 

[RyoQ]

Probable, yes, not the truth.

Probability weighs what is likely to be true, it doesn't change what is true

For example, there is a bear outside my house, I may think it is probable that there isn't one, it doesn't change that there is one

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I'm french Einstein.

French? Oh your country is fucked unfortunately

 

[Logiko]

Probability weighs what is likely to be true, it doesn't change what is true

In this case it wasn't. But if you are not convinced by that I could make the inventary of ALL previous theories about the universe that were proven wrong and were still considered knowledge at the time.

You will not win this fight, I'm sorry dear.

French? Oh your country is fucked unfortunately

We have hope.

 

[RyoQ]

ALL previous theories about the universe that were proven wrong and were still considered knowledge at the time

All of those theories would either be
false, partially true, or totally true, this isn't complicated lol

The example you gave with Newtons Law was of a partial-truth, or partial-knowledge. Not knowledge without truth lol, that is a contradiction

 

[Logiko]

All of those theories would either be partially or totally true, this isn't complicated lol

The truth is not partial mate. If something is wrong, then its not the truth.

Stop trying to find a way out.

Accept your blindspot.

 

[RyoQ]

Truth is not partial mate. If something is wrong, then its not the truth

A theory can be partially true

Theory: Apples are edible vegetables that are green and sweet

They're true in that it's edible, it's sweet, but it isn't a vegetable

Where the theory is correct, there is truth/knowledge, where it's incorrect, there is falsehood/ignorance

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Accept your blindspot

Dude, theories or partial-truths aren't the deboonk you trying to make it

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

you think Trump will support gun control after this?

Absolufuckingley not

They aren't even properly coping over the fact the "kid" was a registered Republican lmao. This won't sway shit for anyone

 

[Logiko]

A theory can be partially true

Lmao no

A theory is either true or false. A theory is a ensemble, its a model. If the model is wrong, its wrong, its not partially true.

Its close to the truth, but its not true.

Where the theory is correct, there is truth/knowledge, where it's incorrect, there is falsehood/ignorance

And it means that your theory is false genius. Again, a theory is an ensemble.

Ergo : Knowledge is not necessarily the truth.

Dude, theories or partial-truths aren't the deboonk you trying to make it

You are wiggling like a mosquito in a glass of vinegar. You are not winning this argument dear. Again I told you. I'm playing with you here

 

[RyoQ]

It's quite literally in the word knowledge, the word know

Google definition for know
verb

1. be aware of through observation, inquiry, or information

Google definition for aware
adjective

1. having knowledge or perception of a situation or fact


Google definition for fact
noun

a thing that is known or proved to be true


It's over

Truth = Know = Understand
As everyone knows innately lol, for when we know the sky is blue, we have the truth about it being blue

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Lmao no

A theory is either true or false. A theory is a ensemble, its a model. If the model is wrong, its wrong, its not partially true.

Its close to the truth, but its not true.



And it means that your theory is false genius. Again, a theory is an ensemble.

Ergo : Knowledge is not necessarily the truth.



You are wiggling like a mosquito in a glass of vinegar. You are not winning this argument dear. Again I told you. I'm playing with you here

you're a clown

 

[RyoQ]

A theory is either true or false. A theory is a ensemble, its a model. If the model is wrong, its wrong, its not partially true.

It is partially true lol, in as much as parts of it are true

It is by definition, partially true

 

[SakazOuki]

All women are capable of physical feats of a man. Not just the one of a trained man ON VERY SPECIFIC subjects.

This isn’t even top 10 dumbest things you’ve said but its hella dumb
One thing is for sure, I’m betting on the average woman to beat your pencil neck bumass

 

[AL sama]

A theory can be partially true

Its close to the truth, but its not true.

these 2 lines basically mean the same thing