Current Events Kuzan Is A Contender For One Piece - Why Oda Doesn’t Care About Swordsmen
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These are your contenders for the Raftel War:
This is what Oda envisioned from the start of the manga. You have Luffy, Saint Pranks, Buggy, and Blackbeard, the four most important living pirates,
You have the current Marines represented by Akainu, the future of the Marines represented by Koby, the Revolutionaries represented by Dragon and Sabo, the Celestial Dragons represented by Imu and Garling, and whoever tf the silhouette is supposed to be.
But why is Kuzan here? We know that Kuzan has his own justice and his own ambitions:
We also know that Kuzan wants to live his own way:
And we know that Kuzan has some kind of greater goal that he is pursuing. This just goes to show how important Kuzan is in Oda’s mind, and how Kuzan isn’t just some Yonko commander.
You know which Yonko commander isn’t present in this panel? That would of course be Buggy the Clown’s lackey Dracule Mihawk:
So what’s hilarious is when Zoro fans argue that Mihawk, and far more hilariously, Shiryu are somehow more important to the plot of this manga than Kuzan is.
Sword fans are trapped in this hallucination that Oda cares more about fucking sword lore than he cares about the search for One Piece, the mysteries of the world, and the 900 year war.
Fujitora went all of Dressrosa with a supreme grade Greatsword, but in Oda’s mind this was not relevant information to the actual plot of the manga.
Oda revealed Zolo’s lineage in an SBS. Didn’t give enough of a shit about who Zolo is or where he came from other than to tease that Zolo was a descendent of Ryuma.
And now we’ve reached the EOS where Oda is more excited to tease Saint Pranks’ unnamed brother than he is to tease Mihawk’s participation in the final war. So this begs the question:
Legit, what fucking manga are sword clowns reading? Zolo is a side character who has, on two occasions, completely disappeared from this manga for years at a time. Sword lore is irrelevant, that shit is SBS material. Zolo’s lineage? Who cares. Not Oda.
There are clowns who actually think Zolo is the deuteragonist. The fucking secondary main character. Name me a single series where a fucking deuteragonist disappears for literal fucking years.
We know Luffy’s father and grandfather because they are major main series characters. Meanwhile if not for a deluded Zolo fan flailing in an SBS, Oda wouldn’t have revealed any members of Zolo’s family outside of Ryuma a thousand years ago.
It’s time for Mihawk fans to give up hope. Zolo is a side quest, no more important than any other straw hat and their dream.
And look, the Admirals are side characters too. There’s no delusions from Admiral fans on their importance. You don’t have Admiral stans arguing that Koby or Smoker are deuteragonists lmfao. They fill a particular roll in the story and that’s it. Just like Zolo. He fills a side roll and that’s it.
Mihawk was never a contender for One Piece and never will be. He is a side quest with a side quest’s level of importance and relevance, just like Zolo and his entire story.
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This is what Oda envisioned from the start of the manga. You have Luffy, Saint Pranks, Buggy, and Blackbeard, the four most important living pirates,
You have the current Marines represented by Akainu, the future of the Marines represented by Koby, the Revolutionaries represented by Dragon and Sabo, the Celestial Dragons represented by Imu and Garling, and whoever tf the silhouette is supposed to be.
But why is Kuzan here? We know that Kuzan has his own justice and his own ambitions:
We also know that Kuzan wants to live his own way:
And we know that Kuzan has some kind of greater goal that he is pursuing. This just goes to show how important Kuzan is in Oda’s mind, and how Kuzan isn’t just some Yonko commander.
You know which Yonko commander isn’t present in this panel? That would of course be Buggy the Clown’s lackey Dracule Mihawk:
So what’s hilarious is when Zoro fans argue that Mihawk, and far more hilariously, Shiryu are somehow more important to the plot of this manga than Kuzan is.
Sword fans are trapped in this hallucination that Oda cares more about fucking sword lore than he cares about the search for One Piece, the mysteries of the world, and the 900 year war.
Fujitora went all of Dressrosa with a supreme grade Greatsword, but in Oda’s mind this was not relevant information to the actual plot of the manga.
Oda revealed Zolo’s lineage in an SBS. Didn’t give enough of a shit about who Zolo is or where he came from other than to tease that Zolo was a descendent of Ryuma.
And now we’ve reached the EOS where Oda is more excited to tease Saint Pranks’ unnamed brother than he is to tease Mihawk’s participation in the final war. So this begs the question:
Legit, what fucking manga are sword clowns reading? Zolo is a side character who has, on two occasions, completely disappeared from this manga for years at a time. Sword lore is irrelevant, that shit is SBS material. Zolo’s lineage? Who cares. Not Oda.
There are clowns who actually think Zolo is the deuteragonist. The fucking secondary main character. Name me a single series where a fucking deuteragonist disappears for literal fucking years.
We know Luffy’s father and grandfather because they are major main series characters. Meanwhile if not for a deluded Zolo fan flailing in an SBS, Oda wouldn’t have revealed any members of Zolo’s family outside of Ryuma a thousand years ago.
It’s time for Mihawk fans to give up hope. Zolo is a side quest, no more important than any other straw hat and their dream.
And look, the Admirals are side characters too. There’s no delusions from Admiral fans on their importance. You don’t have Admiral stans arguing that Koby or Smoker are deuteragonists lmfao. They fill a particular roll in the story and that’s it. Just like Zolo. He fills a side roll and that’s it.
Mihawk was never a contender for One Piece and never will be. He is a side quest with a side quest’s level of importance and relevance, just like Zolo and his entire story.
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One Piece doesn't have a deuteragonist.
Zoro's duel with Mihawk isn't important to the plot of the story.
Traitor is never be the second strongest
Not Corazon, not Nico Robin, not Viola, not Baby 5, not X Drake, not Bege, not Pudding, and not Kuzan too.
Not Blackbeard neither during his day in Whitebeard Pirates history
Blackbeard the DF merchant with own agenda was weaker than Oden the swordsman captain of second division
Wait... is the pattern repeating again?
Not Corazon, not Nico Robin, not Viola, not Baby 5, not X Drake, not Bege, not Pudding, and not Kuzan too.
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Not Blackbeard neither during his day in Whitebeard Pirates history
Blackbeard the DF merchant with own agenda was weaker than Oden the swordsman captain of second division
Wait... is the pattern repeating again?
W. Hachinosu confirmed this. Garp was never special or whatever. A "fruit merchant" adopted his fighting style that makes up 100% of his strength and he even managed to dish out equal force in a punching context where both went all out.
Kuzan used Ice Glove and it obviously wasn't prime Garp. Even if we say Ice Glove Kuzan can only generate 50% of Prime Garp’s punching strength (which is generous considering the FB where Kuzan slowly reached Garp’s punching power) then with adding his Top Tier Logia they become equal anyways, let alone Akainu who defeated Kuzan.
That Garp is anything special among Marine Top Tiers was headcanon nonsense that was hard debunked.
Kuzan used Ice Glove and it obviously wasn't prime Garp. Even if we say Ice Glove Kuzan can only generate 50% of Prime Garp’s punching strength (which is generous considering the FB where Kuzan slowly reached Garp’s punching power) then with adding his Top Tier Logia they become equal anyways, let alone Akainu who defeated Kuzan.
That Garp is anything special among Marine Top Tiers was headcanon nonsense that was hard debunked.
I think the ice gloves are less about generating physical strength but for channeling his DF through it. We know that Aokiji's most potent abilities (ice time, ice age) require but a touch, so with the ice gloves he is applying this technique while brute forcing his way through the opponents defense. This was evident by the fact that, when they hit each other into the face, they were surrounded by both black lightning (generated by Garp) and ice (generated by Aokiji).
So it basically was Aokiji using his DF. It's just that throwing ice alone at Garp wasn't really effective, with Garp pointing out that Aokiji shouldn't hesitate and once Aokiji didn't hesitate anymore, he switched to brawling amped by his DF.
We should also take into consideration that Garp was not only old, but also injured by Shiryu. So a healthy prime Garp would be another story, and we know that Haki (CoC) has a higher ceiling than DFs. So I don't think Aokiji is = or > prime Garp.
So it basically was Aokiji using his DF. It's just that throwing ice alone at Garp wasn't really effective, with Garp pointing out that Aokiji shouldn't hesitate and once Aokiji didn't hesitate anymore, he switched to brawling amped by his DF.
We should also take into consideration that Garp was not only old, but also injured by Shiryu. So a healthy prime Garp would be another story, and we know that Haki (CoC) has a higher ceiling than DFs. So I don't think Aokiji is = or > prime Garp.