You stated, word for word, that some use violence to fight against oppression and that it is the ethical thing to do—right in the middle of a discussion about the Israel-Palestine conflict—suggesting that you implicitly support acts of violence if the reasons are supposedly ethical in your eyes.
Does the number of innocents who get entangled and lose their lives in these acts of violence matter, along with the potential consequences?
Lives always matter. You need to understand that the fight against oppression is a necessary one. If your country fall under fascism, you will have three choice:
- You fight back
- You collaborate
- You run
The most likely in this situation is that you will not have the possibility to run. Which means that the fight becomes the only possibility if you want to keep watching yourself in the mirror because of the atrocities done by the regime. It doesn't mean that you will always use violence, but for some it'sa necessary case.
Resistance is not a game. And yes, sometimes people gets hurt. Ideally people on the ennemy side, but you will see some people go out of the line. It's not a judgment here that I'm making, it's a factual observation. It
HAPPENS. Simply because when you live under oppression, you accumulate anger and most people are not build and educated to suppress that.
As for Hamas, we don't talk about a terrorist attack, but an act of war. There is no debate on this. If you don't understand that I will end the conversation.
The action itself of infiltrating the ennemy and attacking soldiers is the normal war act, the problem is that along with soldiers, they were civilians and civilians also on the way.out
And it is the attack on those civilians that became a war crime and indeed something that should not have happened.
But this act of horror does not change the fact that actions - sometimes violent - are always necessary against oppressors when there is no other solutions. Israel is doing a genocide now and an appartheid since 70 + years, there needs to be someone resisting. Finally,you need to understand something real quick because it's starting to bug me:
You CAN'T judge the same way the actions of an oppressor and the actions of an oppressed no matter how dramatic they are. Why ?
Because it is an ethical necessity. Judging the same way and with the same values the two parties is basically saying that they have both the SAME material condition of existence.
Which would be the most ignorant statement of all.
To understand why, listen to those 4 minutes that I have pinned here:
Human are the result of the material conditions of their existence.
If you don't allow humans to have empathy for you and you create the conditions to oppress them daily, their horrific response to you will not be empathetic.
