Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

Have you read what I sent you? No.
Then don't ask, because you are just spitting out propaganda.

Read a fucking newspaper once in a while.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...igher-than-official-number-lancet-study-finds

Numbers are unclear, I sent you 3 points and unbiased reports and you return back with
ThIs BoIlS DoWn To SeMaNtIcS.
No, you are disgusting and lie to defend a theocracy committing a genocide, just because you share the religion of said theocracy.

Pathetic.

What lie did I speak?

I have not disputed any of the actual facts surrounding the war. I have merely been skeptical of the characterization of the war campaign as a genocide.

The point I was getting at with the classification being semantics is that regardless of whether or not you can classify Israel’s actions as a genocide, civilians dying in war is bad and Israelis responsible for war crimes ought to be held accountable.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Cue the MAGAts explaining how paying more for an essential utility with no improvements in service is a good thing, then going out and buying a dozen generators because they think that money goes directly to Donnie

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

What lie did I speak?

I have not disputed any of the actual facts surrounding the war. I have merely been skeptical of the characterization of the war campaign as a genocide.

The point I was getting at with the classification being semantics is that regardless of whether or not you can classify Israel’s actions as a genocide, civilians dying in war is bad and Israelis responsible for war crimes ought to be held accountable.

Again, you lie through your teeth.
You are skeptical because you do not read anything that goes against your propaganda.
And no, your words are just a pathetic way of minimising what is happening.
It's not just civilians dying.
It's not just war crimes.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

fun fact: I arrived at an airport in Brazil and there was a CIA plane parked at the airport

whyyyy?

 

[comrade]

I have not disputed any of the actual facts surrounding the war. I have merely been skeptical of the characterization of the war campaign as a genocide.

I would argue that many reputable scholars in the areas history and genocide studies classify Israel's operation as a genocide (even Israeli ones, so there is even that layer of anti-bias).

Those arguing against it, typically point out that it doesn't fulfill every check mark of a genocide as per its initial definition that was created in the light of the Holocaust. But that's as far as the legal definition goes. Doesn't mean there isn't nuance from a sociopolitical point of view. Definitions often develop in accordance to new events and data.

 

[Mathias]

fun fact: I arrived at an airport in Brazil and there was a CIA plane parked at the airport

whyyyy?

What did it look like ? Please take a picture with all of its passengers and post it here asap.

 

[Midnight Delight]

I would argue that many reputable scholars in the areas history and genocide studies classify Israel's operation as a genocide (even Israeli ones, so there is even that layer of anti-bias).

Those arguing against it, typically point out that it doesn't fulfill every check mark of a genocide as per its initial definition that was created in the light of the Holocaust. But that's as far as the legal definition goes. Doesn't mean there isn't nuance from a sociopolitical point of view. Definitions often develop in accordance to new events and data.

I mean
If we are gonna talk about that

Wouldn't the forced exodus of arabic Jews be also a genocide?

Funny thing is that Gaddafi out of all people pointed out that Israel could it in the ICC

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I mean
If we are gonna talk about that

Wouldn't the forced exodus of arabic Jews be also a genocide?

Funny thing is that Gaddafi out of all people pointed out that Israel could it in the ICC

I cannot understand what you mean?

 

[Midnight Delight]

I cannot understand what you mean?

Most Jews in Israel nowadays are Arabic Jews who got Ethnically cleansed after 1948 , Gaddafi pointed out that if Arabic Countries took Israel to the ICC Israel could do the same thing and argue that it's citizens are victims of a Mizrahim genocide

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Most Jews in Israel nowadays are Arabic Jews who got Ethnically cleansed after 1948 , Gaddafi pointed out that if Arabic Countries took Israel to the ICC Israel could do the same thing and argue that it's citizens are victims of a Mizrahim genocide

I guess that is true, Arabic nations don't want Israel there just as much as the opposite is true, hence why there have been 60 years of war.
I guess only because the US is such a strong presence there is not an all out war in the middle east and so much money is at stake, but that's the basis of the argument that" Israel has a right to exist"
Since we cannot revert back time anymore, the only really solution that doesn't involve genocide or removal of states is a double state solution, where Israel and Palestine are widely recognised by whoever doesn't recognise them.
Otherwise it's gonna be forever war.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I would argue that many reputable scholars in the areas history and genocide studies classify Israel's operation as a genocide (even Israeli ones, so there is even that layer of anti-bias).

Those arguing against it, typically point out that it doesn't fulfill every check mark of a genocide as per its initial definition that was created in the light of the Holocaust. But that's as far as the legal definition goes. Doesn't mean there isn't nuance from a sociopolitical point of view. Definitions often develop in accordance to new events and data.

It is certainly a possibility that Israel’s actions could be classified as genocidal.

Ultimately due to how much genocide is based off intent, there is some degree of subjectivity in the assessment.

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Again, you lie through your teeth.
You are skeptical because you do not read anything that goes against your propaganda.
And no, your words are just a pathetic way of minimising what is happening.
It's not just civilians dying.
It's not just war crimes.

Refraining from making a certain judgement is not the same thing as lying

 

[Etzel Andergast]

What did it look like ? Please take a picture with all of its passengers and post it here asap.

I didnt see, but every news were talking about when I arrived at the airport

First thing I was asked when I arrived was that

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Update: It seems was transporting diplomats. Boring

 

[Reborn]

From what I have seen so far, it's fair to say Trump likes to be in limelight. He's an attention seeker who seek credits but with a very fragile ego.


He won't shy away from taking any credit whatsoever neither he will take any criticism or anyone opposing him well.

So, when a person like him refuses to release the files which he promised, it only means one thing - his name is in there or name of someone who has close ties with him is in there.

There is no way Trump would let this opportunity to take credits slide by not releasing the files unless his own reputation is at stake.


Heck, I feel this entire Tariffs stuffs has nothing to do with USA strategic trade interests or Russia because if anyone would be harmed the most then it would be USA itself..... So, it's more to do with Trump personality.

Perhaps could be the tactic to divert attention from files release pressure which was mounting on him....

Or could be because he's unable to strike peace in Russia - Ukraine and Israel -Palestine

 

[Jew D. Boy]

So, when a person like him refuses to release the files which he promised, it only means one thing - his name is in there or name of someone who has close ties with him is in there.

This shouldn’t be news to anyone, but just in case…
https://newrepublic.com/post/199340/donald-trump-epstein-files-bill-barr-testimony

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Update: It seems was transporting diplomats. Boring

That's what they want your to think

 

[Reborn]

This shouldn’t be news to anyone, but just in case…
https://newrepublic.com/post/199340/donald-trump-epstein-files-bill-barr-testimony

He controls the government.


Unfortunately, the longer he keeps the files undisclosed, higher the chance that the facts would get distorted.

It's clear by his actions and his personality traits, his name is in there and he won't disclose it until he manipulates his way out to give clean chit to himself

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

It is certainly a possibility that Israel’s actions could be classified as genocidal.

Ultimately due to how much genocide is based off intent, there is some degree of subjectivity in the assessment.

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Refraining from making a certain judgement is not the same thing as lying

Semantics, your only resort.
I hope one day you will think about the words you say and realise what a garbage opinion it is, and what horrible behaviour you excuse in the name of a made up conviction that you joined just to fit in.

You defeat a culture just because you want to be part of it, the worst kind of apologist.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I would argue that, based on him letting corporations run rampant and suck the life out of the proletariat, forcible slavery is just about as American as it gets

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I would argue that, based on him letting corporations run rampant and suck the life out of the proletariat, forcible slavery is just about as American as it gets

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory...ence-global-124788880?cid=social_twitter_abcn

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru.../abcnews/library/media/570537332&id=124788598

https://abcnews.go.com/US/smithsoni...-limits-presidential-power/story?id=124271509


This cunt is dragging the US and the world back to the middle ages holy shit

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/restoring-truth-and-sanity-to-american-history/

This fucking text
Full of manipulation and lies
Ministry of truth

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Semantics, your only resort.
I hope one day you will think about the words you say and realise what a garbage opinion it is, and what horrible behaviour you excuse in the name of a made up conviction that you joined just to fit in.

You defeat a culture just because you want to be part of it, the worst kind of apologist.

I mean, I haven’t excused anything. I said people guilty of war crimes, of which I fully acknowledge exists, should be held accountable.