Future Events What Sanji vs King means to Zoro future opponent and how it all connects to Luffy vs Katakuri

Ok don't get upset boy,
Lucci's overall powerlevel including Doriki, his superior mastery of martial arts, his superior fruit, his superior fruit mastery get ranked at a hypothetical 4000 NOTDORIKIATALL points
Similarly Jyabura is given 2180 NOTDORIKIATALL points
How many NOTDORIKIATALL points does Kaku deserve by your estimation?
What? They stated their Doriki and if your asking me how much of a boost dies his fruit give him on top if his swordmanship. Alot, Giraffe is superior to a wolf and it made him more nimble. Even when Jabra did a sneak attack on him, he dodged it like noting showing his reflexes are superior to jabra.
 
If you are using Dressrosa an arc specifically designed to hype up G4 to powerscale G2/G3 then you are low balling it. G3 gattling could have destroyed Noah even with a nerfed bleeding underwater Luffy. G2 Luffy dodges an explosion from the inside of the explosion... in mid-air

By the end of WCI he used G2/G3 extensively against Katakuri with some success and in wano G2/G3 have regained some of their proper prestige blitzing Tobi Roppo, but now G4 is getting low balled with using it to destroy a battleship, failing to use it to get Momo etc.

G2 Luffy is faster than Zoro, it is ludicrous to believe otherwise, Luffy has a better base, better CoO and better eye movement speed. Oda just prioritises plot and doesn't want Luffy steamrolling everyone no diff. Realistically he should be going G4 and destroying Queen and King fairly easily, especially when Ryuo is in the mix, but that won't happen, instead he'll impotently try to avoid fights half heartedly.
Now I know you are underrating Zoro. Luffy has used G2/G3 anytime he has fought a none fodder yet you claim he has better base than Zoro. He has better CoO but that has nothing to do with their physical speed. CoO doesn't make the user faster.

Luffy grizzly magnum, his strongest G3 attack, only destroyed Pica head. Zoro's haki none name attack cut the upper part of a larger Pica body in half in an instant like it was nothing. Zoro's none haki 1080 cannon destroyed a larger portion of a larger pica.

The purpose behind the gear is to give Luffy more strength, power, and speed.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Sanji is a commander level guy. Ofcourse he can do something to King. Thats absurd, so could Jenbei. Zoro,Sanji, and Jenbei can fight commanders. Don't know if they can beat them all, but they can put up a fight. Especially Zoro who the strongest of the 3
How will Sanji handle a single clean slice from King's sword without dying?
He isnt like Jinbe who can face the most lethal things and keep his limbs.
King can cut up Kaido, Sanji is like butter to him...

Even Jinbe doesnt stand much chance vs King because of bad match-up.
When facing swordsmen, two things are required, either a weapon or paramecia/logia body producers.
Neither Jinbe nor Sanji have either of those.
 
For the "King is going to chop Sanji's leg off" argument


True, instead of debating about Sanji, they avoid the subject, they argue with me about Luffy vs katakuri
Luffy needed Rayleigh to learn haki, Sanji unlocked it by himself :steef:
I guess reaching FS and Advanced CoA out of nowhere is more than a possibility :sadgrin:

Btw it's an argument that doesn't make any sense. King is stronger than Sanji as Kaku or Mr 1 were stronger than Zoro. Then asspull and win.
At least the RS might nullify a part of King powers and make everything more logical :cheers:
 
What? They stated their Doriki and if your asking me how much of a boost dies his fruit give him on top if his swordmanship. Alot, Giraffe is superior to a wolf and it made him more nimble. Even when Jabra did a sneak attack on him, he dodged it like noting showing his reflexes are superior to jabra.
His swordsmanship is his fighting style, just like Jyabura is a martial artist.

I don't know why you assume wielding swords automatically makes you stronger over other fighting styles in a manga where the worlds strongest swordsman is far weaker than the worlds strongest man and the main character doesn't use swords, but instead fists that could crush boulders in the east blue.

I guess Garp must be half a tier above Roger to have been able to corner him given how shitty mountain crushing fists are compared to swords.

Jyabura's wolf was giant, I don't see how that could be significantly inferior to Kaku's giraffe and his fruit mastery at the time would have been less than Jyabura's considering he was testing it on the fly. Jyabura also dodged one of Kaku's (unintentional) attacks, this was more a gag scene imo.
 
If you are using Dressrosa an arc specifically designed to hype up G4 to powerscale G2/G3 then you are low balling it. G3 gattling could have destroyed Noah even with a nerfed bleeding underwater Luffy. G2 Luffy dodges an explosion from the inside of the explosion... in mid-air

By the end of WCI he used G2/G3 extensively against Katakuri with some success and in wano G2/G3 have regained some of their proper prestige blitzing Tobi Roppo, but now G4 is getting low balled with using it to destroy a battleship, failing to use it to get Momo etc.

G2 Luffy is faster than Zoro, it is ludicrous to believe otherwise, Luffy has a better base, better CoO and better eye movement speed. Oda just prioritises plot and doesn't want Luffy steamrolling everyone no diff. Realistically he should be going G4 and destroying Queen and King fairly easily, especially when Ryuo is in the mix, but that won't happen, instead he'll impotently try to avoid fights half heartedly.
All G2 and G3 has done since the timeskip is get embarass by anyone strong. Hyouzou blocked him,Doffy was destroying him before gamme knife, Katakuri wrecked him, couldn't destroy has much has Pica like Zoro did,couldn't get out of Ulti grip,, Cracker fodderize him, Yamato blocked etc.... Stop ✋
 
For the "King is going to chop Sanji's leg off" argument



Luffy needed Rayleigh to learn haki, Sanji unlocked it by himself :steef:
I guess reaching FS and Advanced CoA out of nowhere is more than a possibility :sadgrin:

Btw it's an argument that doesn't make any sense. King is stronger than Sanji as Kaku or Mr 1 were stronger than Zoro. Then asspull and win.
At least the RS might nullify a part of King powers and make everything more logical :cheers:
Know compared that to King who is a high level YC, has ancient Zoan strength, and should possess strong ryuo. The difference between their attacks will be night and day. This won't be a fight between Sanji and veteran level opponent.
 
How will Sanji handle a single clean slice from King's sword without dying?
He isnt like Jinbe who can face the most lethal things and keep his limbs.
King can cut up Kaido, Sanji is like butter to him...

Even Jinbe doesnt stand much chance vs King because of bad match-up.
When facing swordsmen, two things are required, either a weapon or paramecia/logia body producers.
Neither Jinbe nor Sanji have either of those.
This arguement would suggest Luffy would loose to King. Do you see that happening?
 
How will Sanji handle a single clean slice from King's sword without dying?
He isnt like Jinbe who can face the most lethal things and keep his limbs.
King can cut up Kaido, Sanji is like butter to him...

Even Jinbe doesnt stand much chance vs King because of bad match-up.
When facing swordsmen, two things are required, either a weapon or paramecia/logia body producers.
Neither Jinbe nor Sanji have either of those.
His Raid suit and Sanji has gotten stabbed before and kept going. This is stupid because Jenbei been a pirate for 20 years and he must of fought Swordsman before since majority of pirates are Swordsman. Way seen Jenbei has great Haki by blocking BM sword initially, making BM had to put more effort. We seen Jenbei block Akainu with only a little burn marks. Jenbei is a warlord and incredibly decorated Pirate. Which is why the reactions from Kid and Law.
 
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