Chapter Discussion Official English Translation Of "Controversial" Part Of This Chapter
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Stop right there.
My post is talking to the people who are constantly questionning any information that goes against their pre-conceive idea. Be it the data books, the Magazine, the official site, the editors, Oda himself and now Stephen Paul.
If you are not this kind of people, my post is not address to you.
My post is talking to the people who are constantly questionning any information that goes against their pre-conceive idea. Be it the data books, the Magazine, the official site, the editors, Oda himself and now Stephen Paul.
If you are not this kind of people, my post is not address to you.
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Idk why Sanji fans are getting uptight and nitpicking over something that's relatively minor. There's a positive in the translation that y'all are clearly missing and that's Queen's interest in Sanji. Oda had Queen single him out from the pack to just not show Queen's connection to Judge but showcasing how Queen has his eye on Sanji. It smoothly sets up the potential meeting of Sanji vs Queen.
I don't understand why Sanji fans aren't focused on that and be happy at the prospect of Sanji soloing a Yonko Commander to establish himself as one of the higher-end high tier level characters. But instead y'all are out here making a negative out of nothing. Does the idea that Queen was referring to Drake and Zoro being the 2 and 3 bother y'all that much?
I don't understand why Sanji fans aren't focused on that and be happy at the prospect of Sanji soloing a Yonko Commander to establish himself as one of the higher-end high tier level characters. But instead y'all are out here making a negative out of nothing. Does the idea that Queen was referring to Drake and Zoro being the 2 and 3 bother y'all that much?
Ok, as a native English speaker let me say, first impression when reading the Viz translation is that he's talking about Zoro when he says 'Number twos and threes'(this is in plural anyway, so isn't limited to him), and because Queen says the following words (bolded): "And they've got Judge's son among their crew too..." it gives the impression Queen moves onto a seperate topic about Vinsmoke Judge and his son (Sanji).
Note: This of course is an English translation based off Stephen's interpretation, and the same aspects may not be present in the Japanese text. But Stephen is reliable and so the Japanese may indeed imply this as well.
Drake has nothing to do with it even in the Viz version.
Note: This of course is an English translation based off Stephen's interpretation, and the same aspects may not be present in the Japanese text. But Stephen is reliable and so the Japanese may indeed imply this as well.
Drake has nothing to do with it even in the Viz version.
There is no point in bringing up the spanish translation . It isn't really trustworthy even though it is the"official "
And since when Jio started doing translations?
This is situation is pretty much similar to The Franky and ships debacle where all translations went with 10.000 and Stephen went with 100.000 and ended up being right.
And since when Jio started doing translations?
This is situation is pretty much similar to The Franky and ships debacle where all translations went with 10.000 and Stephen went with 100.000 and ended up being right.
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Because I'm in an English forum, but we can argue in Spanish if you want. The point is that, by following this narrow-minded logic, you may be consumming mistakes in the translation and you wouldn't even care about it because of something like "hey, I'm speaking English, so English is the truth". The English translation is just that, a translation among tons of professional ones, and being in an english forum and logically discussing in English doesn't say anything about the actual validity of this specific translation in English.
In my case because I speak Spanish, but someone who has access to the French, German, Italian... translations are free to post them and compare.
In my case because I speak Spanish, but someone who has access to the French, German, Italian... translations are free to post them and compare.
People are obsessed with what the words say while neglecting what the actual images show us...
Queen is observing the chaos of his own creation in front of him.
He sees Drake chasing Apoo and he says "turncoat changed sides as soon as he got found out".
He also sees an unknown guy attacking Apoo alongside Drake.
He goes through the bounties and sees that the unknown guy which he sees in front of him is Roronoa Zoro.
While listing bounties to see who the guy next to Drake is, he also stumbled into a familiar name - Vinsmoke.
2nd and 3rd strongest are the two guys chasing Apoo, the two guys he sees in front of himself.
The only reason why Sanji is mentioned is because his family name is familiar to Queen.
If he didnt know Judge, he wouldnt have mentioned Sanji at all.
Things are very simple if people use common sense but these days, it is a luxury...
Queen is observing the chaos of his own creation in front of him.
He sees Drake chasing Apoo and he says "turncoat changed sides as soon as he got found out".
He also sees an unknown guy attacking Apoo alongside Drake.
He goes through the bounties and sees that the unknown guy which he sees in front of him is Roronoa Zoro.
While listing bounties to see who the guy next to Drake is, he also stumbled into a familiar name - Vinsmoke.
2nd and 3rd strongest are the two guys chasing Apoo, the two guys he sees in front of himself.
The only reason why Sanji is mentioned is because his family name is familiar to Queen.
If he didnt know Judge, he wouldnt have mentioned Sanji at all.
Things are very simple if people use common sense but these days, it is a luxury...
But this is a five-page thread that opens a debate about the accuracy of that particular piece of translation, and with your post the only thing you are doing is diminishing the value of it by displacing the focus to an undefined group of haters who constantly question anything against their bias. Do you have absolute certainty that most of the people debating here fit that group? And if the answer were no, what's the point of posting that in the first place, if not destabilizing a sane conversation?