Character Discussion "Kaido, the strongest pirate" - how valid are characters statements?

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I'll take a statement from a guy who actually face kaido and other emperors than someone who just heard some rumor about it like caribou for example.
Hes not even seen big mom mihawk or blackbeard. Luffy has seen every top tier except gb shanks and his dad.
Not once has luffy even insinuated kaido is the strongest. Hes shown more apprehension and fear to big mom than he ever has for kaido.
 
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As I said, either people don't read half of the manga when it comes to mihawk fanboyism, or they are simply trolling.



Killer's intelligence is above average when it comes general knowledge about the marines and the pirates. There is no reason to doubt Killer, because he knows better than you. Killer > your mihawk fanboyism.

Marco also knows better, which is why he sent Vista alone to solo Mihawk, and he did it with ease.

And every single title, is what people say. There is no such a thing as ''E.Oda informing us from outside of the manga'', mihawk's shitty sword title showed up only after Zeff told us he is the most famous swordsman, but it doesn't mean he will win every fight in a sword fight, because there is no such a stupid thing as that, Vista is the proof of it, Wano Samurai are the proof of it, because mihawk never beat Wano Samurai as well. Zoro novel is proof of it.

Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''
--- Translation by Sandman
If you accept Kaido's title you have to accept Mihawk"s title the same word is used also we got mihawks title from an omniscient narrator not scrub who has only seen 2 Yonko.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
If you accept Kaido's title you have to accept Mihawk"s title the same word is used also we got mihawks title from an omniscient narrator not scrub who has only seen 2 Yonko.
Also even if they wanted to debunk that and debate about the meaning of strongest swordsman, they would need right out to try to explain in which kind of fiction the word swordsman was not associated to the overall individual when referring to one.
 
I guess Kid is also retarded since he believes same as killer.

Like some said,whether it is perception by other people or legit truth,Kaido is seen by many people in-verse as something different in 1vs 1 and thus accepted by the majority as strongest pirate.

Whether BB becomes stronger later or something, atm he is not portrayed as the strongest.If he was even stronger,he would've gotten rid of Kaido and Bm already ad he is the type to take out his rivals when he is sure to win.

Not even talking about Mihawk right now 'cause his current hype,portrayal and feats aren't in the same galaxy as Kaido(It may change later though when we get focus on him).
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If you accept Kaido's title you have to accept Mihawk"s title the same word is used also we got mihawks title from an omniscient narrator not scrub who has only seen 2 Yonko.
What is an omniscient narrator may I ask?

I'm certainly not doubting Mihawk's title but are we forgetting the same info boxes were provided for Gorosei (highest political authority) and Fake strawhats??

The simple fact that if someone unknown were to become strong enough off-screen to be WSS and still not considered WSS until he becomes famous or beats Mihawk, already tells me all the official "WS " are no word of GOD and rely on reputation too.
 
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I hear Imu > all top tiers
Imu is a creature
so wsc is a fake
:smart:
I believe it can go like this

So basically it goes like this:
- Strongest man -> WB (at the time, also strongest pirate, so including Kaido)
- Strongest Creature -> Kaido (since WB died, he gets to have strongest pirate title now)
- Strongest Entity -> Imu-Sama (Entity can be a larger term than creatures, especially if he's some extraterrestrial shit from moon or some shit).

Also, let's not forget that Imu is in the shadows... Kaido's title applies and valid, BUT to "ACTIVE characters" who aren't in shadow or hidden related to void century stuff
 
cant believe we still aruguing this thing. oda been calling kaido as the strongest since long ago even he need to builds years of arcs only to prepare the battle against him.
as we are all knew that oda need to drags bm all over from wci to wano only to weakened kaido somehow eventually. even with all these plot oda still couldnt sure how to put kaido down.

the man basically a suicide. he never ever bother use any defend technique whatsover...i even doubt if he could use COA lmao
 
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Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''

--- Translation by Sandman
Lol how valid is this source and where did you get it ????
If its truly a offical novel then all Shanks fans have red flag upon there headcanon opinion
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
That because luffy doesn't have the knowledge and is overconfident.
I agree on one thing with him though.

Luffy acknowledged Akainu's power, so we will be able to see how positively he estimates Kaido in comparison once he will clash with him, since it's implied he should at least contribute in his defeat.

So far he didn't consider Big Mom much, but your point is also correct about his knowledge and recklessness.
 
What does this have to do with character statements?

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relax

5 of them are fodder
2 are vet level
2 are only stronger than YC when going sulong in a 2v1
you are not a veteran lv if whenever you call. the yc 2 queen answer yr call and ordering him around.
every single scabbards whom didnt pass time travel is legit yc2 lv. ppl like shutenmaru call jack small scrub and speedblitz him. denjiro alone is orochi second in command in downtown and considered as most powerfull person on flower capital . and most importantly every single scabbards posses oden's ryou. something that luffy just learn even after trains under rayleigh for 2 yrs.
you put oven or daifuku, perospero or even katakuri and they will freakin hard time to even penetrate or hurts kaido. this certain ability a crucial and rare.
 
What does this have to do with character statements?

:rolaugh:
relax

5 of them are fodder
2 are vet level
2 are only stronger than YC when going sulong in a 2v1
fodder ???
All of them have higher AP than Gear 4 Boundman (before attaining adv haki)
Kinemon cut through boro blast and hurt Kaido from far away fodder ??? lol
Kawamatsu attacking Kaido and hurting him none of them are fodders except Raizo
 
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Kaido D. Stronger

Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonsttttttttttttttttttttttttterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,
His wild beast, the legendary 1v1, the beast, the beast, the author launched the beast, the beast that causes terror in the world with that of existence.
Let out the roar, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Behold the strongest pirate in the world.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.


ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MONSTER Expressions.Just looking causes fear.Scream, make the roar, the strongest. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG


THE BEAST THAT SUPPORTS EVERYTHING.:steef::steef::steef:
 
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Formerly Seth

Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonsttttttttttttttttttttttttterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,
His wild beast, the legendary 1v1, the beast, the beast, the author launched the beast, the beast that causes terror in the world with that of existence.
Let out the roar, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Behold the strongest pirate in the world.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.


ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MONSTER Expressions.Just looking causes fear.Scream, make the roar, the strongest. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG


THE BEAST THAT SUPPORTS EVERYTHING.:steef::steef::steef:
Btw. I need a confirmation from one of the biggest Kaido stans besides Fuji.

You don't believe that Kaido vs Oden was Admiral, let alone Yonko level fight back then ye?
 
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