Questions & Mysteries About Kaidou's WSC status

[Jo_Ndule]

Oda was hyping up Kaido, an upcoming villian. Oda hyped up BM, used her as a hype tool in her own arc, and then reassured the reader that she was indeed very powerful and intelligent. In a databook, Oda said WB's sickness didnt affect his power standing(aka he was still the strongest in the world) but I'm certain there are people who claim otherwise.

Kaido's title as the current strongest was purposely placed as a rumor. He introduced Kaido with a giant scar, emphasizing his failures. Kaido had his WSC title cause people were ASSUMING he has the best in a 1v1 aka spreading rumors, saying you should BET on him winning. WB=he is. Kaido=so they say.

You would never get an intro box coz the whole epilogue was Kaido's intro box with legends

Why doesn't WB have WSC or 1 v1 hype if WB was better at 1 v 1 and unkillable?

You can't define the strongest
If you want DC and legacy, WB is the strongest because of his Gura and achievements

If you want pure strength alone and durability then Kaido is the strongest

If you want military force and physical power then BM has the strongest one.

WB would die or lose the most while Kaido won't die if they fight 1v 1
WB won't even outlast Kaido.

The Databook is lying coz the Manga states WB was weakened and no more the wsm due to old age and sickness

Oda never hyped BM as strongest character alive.

Nobody in the story stated Kaido isn't strongest or is a fraud.
While we have WB, Marco, croco all pointing that WB wasn't the strongest anymore.

 

[HA001]

You would never get an intro box coz the whole epilogue was Kaido's intro box with legends

Why doesn't WB have WSC or 1 v1 hype if WB was better at 1 v 1 and unkillable?

You can't define the strongest
If you want DC and legacy, WB is the strongest because of his Gura and achievements

If you want pure strength alone and durability then Kaido is the strongest

If you want military force and physical power then BM has the strongest one.

WB would die or lose the most while Kaido won't die if they fight 1v 1
WB won't even outlast Kaido.

Lmfao kaidos not unkillable at all. It was fake hype. Oden was gonna kill him in 2 hits with no advanced haki.

 

[Formerly Seth]

His title is as legit as people who say that Whitebeard Pirates were weak and Whitebeard blocked PK throne because he hides the poneglyph and not because everyone was too scared to engage with him

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

Oda was hyping up Kaido, an upcoming villian. Oda hyped up BM, used her as a hype tool in her own arc, and then reassured the reader that she was indeed very powerful and intelligent in a later interview. In a databook, Oda said WB's sickness didnt affect his power standing(aka he was still the strongest in the world) but I'm certain there are people who claim otherwise.

Kaido's title as the current strongest was purposely placed as a rumor. He introduced Kaido with a giant scar, emphasizing his failures. Kaido had his WSC title cause people were ASSUMING he has the best in a 1v1 aka spreading rumors, saying you should BET on him winning. WB=he is. Kaido=so they say.

wb sickness doesn't affect his power at all indeed.

but it effects his condition. his effectiveness. his proficiency. he couldn't even use 3 colors of haki properly. even marco admitted wb get dragged by his condition to the point where he could get attack by an attack that he could easily dodged. this is the man who used to beat ace in his sleep. and tilt the island and ocean only by his aura.

he isn't fight like used to be. even age is pain the ass. let alone heart attack at old age.

 

[zaman]

You would never get an intro box coz the whole epilogue was Kaido's intro box with legends

Why doesn't WB have WSC or 1 v1 hype if WB was better at 1 v 1 and unkillable?

You can't define the strongest
If you want DC and legacy, WB is the strongest because of his Gura and achievements

If you want pure strength alone and durability then Kaido is the strongest

If you want military force and physical power then BM has the strongest one.

WB would die or lose the most while Kaido won't die if they fight 1v 1
WB won't even outlast Kaido.

The Databook is lying coz the Manga states WB was weakened and no more the wsm due to old age and sickness

Oda never hyped BM as strongest character alive.

Nobody in the story stated Kaido isn't strongest or is a fraud.
While we have WB, Marco, croco all pointing that WB wasn't the strongest anymore.

So much low IQ cope in one message. ( i'm refering to the red part of your message )

 

[style]

In a databook, Oda said WB's sickness didnt affect his power standing(aka he was still the strongest in the world) but I'm certain there are people who claim otherwise.

Which one? Vivrecard?

 

[zaman]

wb sickness doesn't affect his power at all indeed.

but it effects his condition. his effectiveness. his proficiency. he couldn't even use 3 colors of haki properly. even marco admitted wb get dragged by his condition to the point where he could get attack by an attack that he could easily dodged. this is the man who used to beat ace in his sleep. and tilt the ocean only by aura.

he isn't fight like used to be. even age is pain the ass. let alone heart attack at old age.

"wb sickness doesn't affect his power.... but he get attacked by an attack that he could easily dodged".
lol

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

"wb sickness doesn't affect his power.... but he get attacked by an attack that he could easily dodged".
lol

power is reffering to gura-gura. and why do you even laugh I'm just quote the words from oda and marco lol

 

[Fujishiro]

I can say it only again and again. I hope wano ends soon. So that the kaido-hype within the fandom finally dies. 🤲🙏

One way or another things will finally settle for good.

 

[zaman]

power is reffering to gura-gura. and why do you even laugh I'm just quote that from oda himself and marco lol

Then yes i do agree; But overall he was weaker than during his prime, and got eventually beaten - due to all the attacks that he could have dodged if he wasn't weakened and due to the fact that he wasn't the most durable in the verse - due to his weakened power, whereas if he was in his prime, never would have ace died, nor himself.

 

[Lunaria]

Oda himself implied he was the strongest being in the OPverse. "Strongest Creature" should be even more legit than WSM and WSS, as it includes all living beings.

 

[HA001]

Oda himself implied he was the strongest being in the OPverse. "Strongest Creature" should be even more legit than WSM and WSS, as it includes all living beings.

The point is oda never said this is kaido hes the worlds strongest creature.
There is no wsc title in this manga.

 

[zaman]

i mean i do laugh to the fact that "power" isn't supposed to mean out of context, something related only to a df in OP.
And that, indeed, overall the power of WB was weakened by his sickness, which was a good scenaristic pretext for him to get killed.

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Oda himself implied he was the strongest being in the OPverse. "Strongest Creature" should be even more legit than WSM and WSS, as it includes all living beings.

humans are "creatures"?
i can accept that some say we are monkeys, but even there, animals aren"t "creatures" strictly understood.

 

[RyumaZoro]

Ok let’s see we have a grizzly bear 🐻 been captured and escaped being wild and strong and feared for that and bring mike Tyson against the bear yiur bet gonna be on the bear but Tyson can actually win that and ko her so actually the bear is kaido that’s the title of kaido just of his nature that rumour exists and is not established about the top tiers no one recognised him as the strongest .

and to be fair how can that unbeatable wsc have the most L’s in the series he actually is like a grizzly bear 😂

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

i mean i do laugh to the fact that "power" isn't supposed to mean out of context, something related only to a df in OP.
And that, indeed, overall the power of WB was weakened by his sickness, which was a good scenaristic pretext for him to get killed.

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humans are "creatures"?
i can accept that some say we are monkeys, but even there, animals aren"t "creatures" strictly understood.

true. the power that he meant must be not overall power. but part of it. which I suspect is his gura gura.

the old age itself prolly stole 20% of his overall strength and another 15% for his sickness. it drag him down. even without war. he prolly just die by disease later. the man been living with life aid support surround by nurses for years.many ppl around his age like kong garp Sengoku crocus rayleigh doesn't even have bad condition like him.

 

[zaman]

true. the power that he meant must be not overall power. but part of it. which I suspect is his gura gura.

the old age itself prolly stole 20% of his overall strength and another 15% for his sickness. it drag him down. even without war. he prolly just die by disease later. the man been living with life aid support surround by nurses for years.

i mean i can't disagree with the fact that he was still the strongest in MF, but i still can't fathom the fact that he got killed by "rookies", ie BB crew, knowing how much he had hatred towards him - meaning that he should have still power left to end him at the very least - beside that it was the scenario for him to die, and that the fact that he was sick, old were good scenaristic pretext for it to happen.

 

[Lunaria]

i mean i do laugh to the fact that "power" isn't supposed to mean out of context, something related only to a df in OP.
And that, indeed, overall the power of WB was weakened by his sickness, which was a good scenaristic pretext for him to get killed.

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humans are "creatures"?
i can accept that some say we are monkeys, but even there, animals aren"t "creatures" strictly understood.

Animals are creatures, all living beings are creatures.

 

[HA001]

Animals are creatures, all living beings are creatures.

Doesnt matter. There is no wsc title in this manga

 

[zaman]

Animals are creatures, all living beings are creatures.

i just created a thread linked to your understanding of this term, but both semantically wise and scenario wise i can disagree.
Let's talk about the scenario only : How can the strongest beeing ever, need the help of a old hag to not be killed by a "mere" oden?

 

[comrade]

Kaido is the strongest until proven otherwise (by future Luffy and Blackbeard).

Dunno why the Oden occasion is relevant when Oden basically had a free shot at Kaido's zoan form, which is an easy target even for G3 Luffy. Yes, Oden hurt Kaido but just because you can hurt Kaido as a top tier, doesn't mean you are stronger than him, since he can hurt you much more badly than you can hurt him.