Questions & Mysteries About Kaidou's WSC status

How is WSC title's legitimation compared to WSM and WSS?

  • similarly legit as WSM, less legit than WSS

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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#61
Kaido is the strongest until proven otherwise (by future Luffy and Blackbeard).

Dunno why the Oden occasion is relevant when Oden basically had a free shot at Kaido's zoan form, which is an easy target even for G3 Luffy. Yes, Oden hurt Kaido but just because you can hurt Kaido as a top tier, doesn't mean you are stronger than him, since he can hurt you much more badly than you can hurt him.
Who else was kaido with his 1000 strong army focused on if not oden ? Kinemon ? Raizo lmfao.
Stop making piss poor excuses. He was gonna die in 2 hits to someone with no advanced haki
 
#62
Who else was kaido with his 1000 strong army focused on if not oden ? Kinemon ? Raizo lmfao.
It doesn't matter. Dragon Kaido is an easy target. Base Kaido on the other hand was stalling an enraged Oden just fine, with Oden unable to overpower him. And Hybrid Kaido is going to be much stronger.

He was gonna die in 2 hits to someone with no advanced haki
I'm sure Oden had an advanced form of Haki, he is the second strongest swordsman in history of Wano known to us. Meanwhile the YC level characters like Shutenmaru and Denjiro won't even scratch Kaido with their swords.
 
#63
i mean i do laugh to the fact that "power" isn't supposed to mean out of context, something related only to a df in OP.
And that, indeed, overall the power of WB was weakened by his sickness, which was a good scenaristic pretext for him to get killed.
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humans are "creatures"?
i can accept that some say we are monkeys, but even there, animals aren"t "creatures" strictly understood.
every living being is creature.
human are one of mammals among the animal kgdom.. in op world there not just human but also fishman. giant. devil, outlier like moonlander or sky island race and so on. so imo creature is the right term to covering all that species.
 
#64
Doesnt matter. There is no wsc title in this manga
There's no World's Strongest Woman title, does that mean BM isn't really the WSW ? Oda said it in his interview : "a mother is the strongest living being, stronger than Kaido !". If he's not implying Kaido is the strongest living being of OP, I don't know what that means.

i just created a thread linked to your understanding of this term, but both semantically wise and scenario wise i can disagree.
Let's talk about the scenario only : How can the strongest beeing ever, need the help of a old hag to not be killed by a "mere" oden?
Because he wasn't the WSC yet. Oden was in his prime, Kaido wasn't.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#66
It doesn't matter. Dragon Kaido is an easy target. Base Kaido on the other hand was stalling an enraged Oden just fine, with Oden unable to overpower him. And Hybrid Kaido is going to be much stronger.


I'm sure Oden had an advanced form of Haki, he is the second strongest swordsman in history of Wano known to us. Meanwhile the YC level characters like Shutenmaru and Denjiro won't even scratch Kaido with their swords.
Base kaido stalled oden for barely any time before orochi stopped it.
Still no confirmation he has a fruit yet.

Oden didnt have a clue what roger or wb did and showed nothing outside of hardening.
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There's no World's Strongest Woman title, does that mean BM isn't really the WSW ? Oda said it in his interview : "a mother is the strongest living being, stronger than Kaido !". If he's not implying Kaido is the strongest living being of OP, I don't know what that means.



Because he wasn't the WSC yet. Oden was in his prime, Kaido wasn't.
So big mom > kaido then
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Kaido is the WSC until proven otherwise.

There is absolutely no reason to contradict his title.
What title ?
 
#67
Oda said it in his interview "a mother is the strongest living being, stronger than Kaido !". If he's not implying Kaido is the strongest living being of OP, I don't know what that means.
Wait for HA delegitimatizing that statement by saying Oda's statement implies BM is stronger than Kaido since she is an angry mother. Entirely dismissing the context and purpose of Oda's statement.

:yasu:

Edit: I told you, lol.

Kaido > Mihawk
 
#68
every living being is creature.
human are one of mammals among the animal kgdom.. in op world there not just human but also fishman. giant. devil, outlier like moonlander or sky island race and so on. so imo creature is the right term to covering all that species.
so there are three options :
- either it's a "say" title, ie not by oda which is hard to defend to a good extent but still possible
- either "creature" is understood differently by oda, as it is with the "power "of WB
- either it will mean that in this arc he won't go down and that our understanding of the fact that oden was close to his level was just an illusion, but will go down in the EOS.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#69
Wait for HA delegitimatizing that statement by saying Oda's statement implies BM is stronger than Kaido since she is an angry mother. Entirely dismissing the context and purpose of Oda's statement.

:yasu:

Edit: I told you, lol.

Kaido > Mihawk
Like you know what odas context is.
He didnt want to call kaido the wsc outright in his own manga

Mihawk stomps he disarms him easier than neko then cuts him more than oden.
 
#70
There's no World's Strongest Woman title, does that mean BM isn't really the WSW ?.
Based on @Red Admiral logic she is not.

His logic is : Roger was not named the WSS even tho he was a swordsman and nigh equal to WB. Therefore he was not the WSS.

So Big Mom is a woman, she is the only female top tier but she is not the WSW because she was never called like that by the author :kayneshrug:
 
#71
Base kaido stalled oden for barely any time before orochi stopped it.
Still no confirmation he has a fruit yet.

Oden didnt have a clue what roger or wb did and showed nothing outside of hardening.
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So big mom > kaido then
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What title ?
I don't know why you would think Oda's joke about mothers being stronger than Kaido means the implication of Kaido being the WSC is also a joke, that's a weird perspective. But even if we take the whole statement seriously, note that Oda was talking about real life mothers.
 
#72
Like you know what odas context is.
The context is as obvious as it can get for anyone not biased.
He didnt want to call kaido the wsc outright in his own manga
He does though? Calls Kaido strongest creature and strongest in 1 on 1 in the novel. Calls Kaido strongest creature in the SBS, jokingly only above angry real life moms.
Mihawk stomps he disarms him easier than neko then cuts him more than oden.
Let him kill the smile in Vista's face first to have him compete with the guy who oneshots Luffy in base. :yasu:
 
#73
Based on @Red Admiral logic she is not.

His logic is : Roger was not named the WSS even tho he was a swordsman and nigh equal to WB. Therefore he was not the WSS.

So Big Mom is a woman, she is the only female top tier but she is not the WSW because she was never called like that by the author :kayneshrug:
his logic makes sense if we admit the premisse that Oda give title to all the most important characters, which is debatable.
 
#74
Based on @Red Admiral logic she is not.

His logic is : Roger was not named the WSS even tho he was a swordsman and nigh equal to WB. Therefore he was not the WSS.

So Big Mom is a woman, she is the only female top tier but she is not the WSW because she was never called like that by the author :kayneshrug:
if there was an official WSW title in OP world and Big Mom wasn't I would have my high doubt as well
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#75
I don't know why you would think Oda's joke about mothers being stronger than Kaido means the implication of Kaido being the WSC is also a joke, that's a weird perspective. But even if we take the whole statement seriously, note that Oda was talking about real life mothers.
This is like me saying akainu >>> cause oda said hed finish the story in a year
So akinu would beat the yonko find the op anf over throw the wg in 40 chapters.
 
#76
This is like me saying akainu >>> cause oda said hed finish the story in a year
So akinu would beat the yonko find the op anf over throw the wg in 40 chapters.
the truth is that... Oda is a low IQ dude or do it on purpose when it comes to power level, titles, chara design, or anything that is too much important.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#77
The context is as obvious as it can get for anyone not biased.

He does though? Calls Kaido strongest creature and strongest in 1 on 1 in the novel. Calls Kaido strongest creature in the SBS, jokingly only above angry real life moms.

Let him kill the smile in Vista's face first to have him compete with the guy who oneshots Luffy in base. :yasu:
He doesnt call him the wsc
He says people say
People say luffy is 8m tall
Is luffy 8 tall ?
He doesnt say hes the strongest 1 vs 1
He said bet on kaido
Do bets always come in ?
Can you see how dumb you are ?

Lmfao a weaker swordsman with worse swords weaker haki and no kokuto was gonna kill him in 2 hits. Mihawk stomps.
 
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