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KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
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#1
---INTRODUCTION---

I'd like to bring forth how I think Kaido's/Beast Pirates crew works, and this page helped lead to my conclusion-


Better translations should clarify the meaning of the highlight text bubble, but Haccha's, the Number 8 of the Numbers, actions of nabbing the Supernova, per Queen's orders, suggest that the rank of Flying 6 is coveted by the Numbers, which suggest Flying 6 ranks above Numbers. And this is supported by other Beast Pirates factually below Flying 6 also attempting to achieve the position.

Kaido's crew is structured like a pyramid. I shall illustrate it as so-



(Note: Apologies for the rather crude attempt)

There has been references placed that Kaido's crew works like a Meritocracy, and the number of members in a given rank correlate with the strength of its members.


---PLEASURES AND WAITERS---


  • Pleasures and Waiters are the members of Kaido's crew without a abilities. Waiters are specifically those waiting to receive a SMILE in the hopes of becoming a Gifter. Pleasures are those who have received a SMILE, but did not receive any abilities upon consumption. Rather, they lost their ability to swim and to express any other emotions.
  • They are the most numerous section of Kaido's crew, therefore the largest. We do not have a precise number of how many Beast Pirates compose these ranks. All that is known is that 9-10 who consume a SMILE become a pleasure, while those waiting are undetermined.
  • They are ostensibly Kaido's fodders.

Moving on, we have the Gifters.


---GIFTERS---


  • They are confirmed the "lucky ones".
  • Their numbers are 1/10th of what comprises the Pleasures and Waiters. This is due to the 1 to 10 chance someone has at actually receiving the abilities from a SMILE fruit.


Already we are seeing a pattern. The higher the rank, the fewer members there are.

Now on to the Headliners.


---HEADLINERS---


  • Described as the "chosen Gifters", they are among the elite of the Gifters. How many Gifters are chosen to be Headliners is unknown, but the fact they must be chosen naturally excludes some Gifters from becoming Headliners.
  • The position of Headliner isn't just limited to SMILE fruit users either, as some such as Hawkins and potentially Apoo are Headliners themselves. Which makes sense as Headliners are just chosen Gifters. Gifters are merely Devil Fruit users. Of which Hawkins and Apoo are. Their combat prowess would naturally include them among the Elite Gifters.

Now for the toughest rank to evaluate: the Numbers.

---NUMBERS---



Let me preface this section that we still know little about the Numbers, relative to the other ranks. However, we can deduce on where they safely settle within the power chain.

  • Kaido's crew possesses a card theme. This is found through several members being named after card games, or playing card ranks, like "Queen" or "King".
  • The Numbers' faction name, as well as their number designation, may mean they work from 10-2 found in playing cards like poker and are typically rated below cards such as King/Queen/Jack.
  • This is supported by Haccha's name, which comes from 8.


  • This would also mean that there are 9 Numbers in total if the numbers go from 10-2. Less members than the Headliners, Gifters, and Pleasures/Waiters, but more than the Flying 6 and All-Stars.
  • Haccha's motives for attacking the Supernovas are hard to determine, but they imply he seeks to become a Flying 6. However, his fellow crewmembers suggest he can't become one even if he tried.
  • The Numbers could be a fringe membership within Kaido's crew, but it is a fact that they rank below the All-Stars and Kaido himself, and continue the pyramid trend found among all other ranks of Kaido's crew.
  • They have been members within the Beast Pirates for at least 20 years. This is due to the fact they were present during the fall of the Kozuki family.



  • In that time, they have not managed to become All-Stars.
  • Meanwhile, the Flying 6 have members being eyed for the position of All-Star, despite relatively recent additions, apparently.



Speaking of, let's move on the Flying 6, or Tobi Roppo.


---FLYING 6---


  • The Flying 6 is a rank coveted from as low as Pleasures/Waiters and as high as Headliners and potentially Numbers.
  • They continue the trend of fewer, stronger. And it's made even clearer how important it is for there to only be 6 members. This is because someone can only become a Flying 6 should a spot be open. Whether it be due to a member leaving or killed.

  • Due to the infrequent availability, it is possible for there to be Flying 6 caliber fighters within the Beast Pirates that are below Flying 6 in rank, such as Hawkins or Apoo. However, such outliers cannot be use to represent the typical strength discrepancy between ranks. Though it illustrates how difficult the position is at being achieved.

Now on to the highest rank within the Beast Pirates led by Kaido, All-Stars/Lead Performers.


---ALL-STARS---



  • They are Kaido's closest confidants within the crew.

  • They typically lead a unit made up of Headliners, Gifters, and Pleasures and Waiters.
  • They govern over regions of Wano. Queen looking after the Udon region, and Jack the Kuri region.
  • This is the only rank of which the Flying 6 are vying for.
  • The process of acquiring the rank is similar to acquiring the Flying 6 rank. The spot must be made open. While not confirmed, it appears to be a rank only Flying 6 are eligible for. That adds credence to the Flying 6 ranking just below the All-Stars within the hierarchy. And therefore, it's possible for there to be Flying 6 close to the All-Stars in ability.
  • They hold some authority over the Flying 6, as seen with Queen dispatching X-Drake and P1 under the request of Kyoshiro.


And finally, not a formal rank, but the supreme commander of the Beast Pirates, known as the King of Beasts, Emperor Kaido.


---KAIDO---


  • Kaido is the sole ruler of the Beast Pirates, and therefore the sole occupant of this title and position.
  • He is the strongest member of his crew, and inspires more influence than anyone else in it. Even the All-Star King could only get the Flying 6 to heed his commands through Kaido's name.
  • There is no formal means to achieving this position within the Beast Pirates. Only way is if Kaido bequeaths the spot to someone, like his son potentially, or is defeated in battle and usurped by someone. Whether within his crew or out.
  • Kaido's position is akin to the "Ace" card in a few card games. The Ace was typically the best card, and represented the trump card.


In short, the ranks go from valuing quantity the lower they are to valuing quality the higher they are, similar to other Meritocracy systems. So what do you think? Does this paint a good picture on the Beast Pirates' inner structure? Are there some things I missed? Where do you disagree with my assessment? I'm happy to get others' perspectives.
 
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Excellent Thread

The Numbers may not be a rank, but simply grouped on their status as giants. Kind of like the Groggy Monsters in Foxys crew. They likely are though. Also, we don't know how many numbers there are versus gifters

The beast pirates and BMPs are all meritocratic. It's highly likely this is the case for the other big crews too
 
#3
The Tobi Roppo are Headliners. The Numbers can't be between them unless they're Headliners themselves.

Earlier this day, I made a hierarchy chart in my Beasts Pirates fanclub.

Kaido's Hierarchy

Supreme Commander
  • Kaido
Rakugo
Top Officer
  • Lead Performer King
  • Lead Performer Queen
  • Lead Performer Jack
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Who's-Who
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Sasaki
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Page One
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Ulti
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Black Maria
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner X Drake
Officer
  • Headliner Scotch
  • Headliner Bao Huang
  • Headliner Babanuki
  • Headliner Daifugo
  • Headliner Dobon
  • Headliner Solitaire
  • Headliner Holdem
  • Headliner Speed
  • Headliner Sheepshead
  • Headliner Ginrummy
  • Headliner Basil Hawkins
  • Headliner Scratchmen Apoo
SMILE Users
  • Gifters
  • Pleasures
  • Waiters
Pirate Crew Subordinates
(Minus the captains who become Headliners)
  • Who's-Who's Crew
  • Sasaki's Crew
  • Page One's Crew
  • Ulti's Crew
  • Black Maria's Crew
  • Drake Pirates
  • Scotch's Crew
  • Hawkins Pirates
  • On-Air Pirates
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
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#4
Excellent Thread

The Numbers may not be a rank, but simply grouped on their status as giants. Kind of like the Groggy Monsters in Foxys crew. They likely are though. Also, we don't know how many numbers there are versus gifters

The beast pirates and BMPs are all meritocratic. It's highly likely this is the case for the other big crews too
I do wish we got more insight into the Big Mom pirates' ranks. We have members given designated roles, like Enraged Army, or Bobbin referred to as "Fixer", as well as Linlin's children being Ministers.

but beyond Captain and Sweet Commanders, we can only infer what rank guys like Perospero and the sort have. "Veteran" serving as the unofficial term for their positions on the crew.
 
#5
I do wish we got more insight into the Big Mom pirates' ranks. We have members given designated roles, like Enraged Army, or Bobbin referred to as "Fixer", as well as Linlin's children being Ministers.

but beyond Captain and Sweet Commanders, we can only infer what rank guys like Perospero and the sort have. "Veteran" serving as the unofficial term for their positions on the crew.
Enraged Army isn't a rank, "Fixer" is an epithet, and Bobbin is a Fighter alongside Tamago, Pekoms, and Bege (the non-family members). The core crew consist of the Charlotte Family, and the more prominent members are "Ministers."
 
#6
I do wish we got more insight into the Big Mom pirates' ranks. We have members given designated roles, like Enraged Army, or Bobbin referred to as "Fixer", as well as Linlin's children being Ministers.

but beyond Captain and Sweet Commanders, we can only infer what rank guys like Perospero and the sort have. "Veteran" serving as the unofficial term for their positions on the crew.
They were based on a chess board in the BMPs

Captain (king and queen - Linlin), Sweet Commander (admittedly not chess - Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker - equivalent to calamities), Bishops/Ministers (Perospero, Oven, Daifuku, Compote, Snack, Opera, Amande, Mont Dor - equivalent to flying 6), Rooks (Capone, Tamago, Pekoms, Brulee, Raisin, Struesen etc. equivalent to numbers and top headliners?), Knights (Pudding, Flampe, Bobbin etc. equivalent to weak headliners and gifters?), Pawns (fodder)
 
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I do wish we got more insight into the Big Mom pirates' ranks. We have members given designated roles, like Enraged Army, or Bobbin referred to as "Fixer", as well as Linlin's children being Ministers.

but beyond Captain and Sweet Commanders, we can only infer what rank guys like Perospero and the sort have. "Veteran" serving as the unofficial term for their positions on the crew.
I did a post about the BMP hierarchy and organisation, here it is :
I did a detailled hierarchy of the Big Mom Pirates, of their organisation and military :

On top of the chain we have the captain of the Big Mom Pirates and the queen of Totto Land herself Charlotte Linlin aka "Big Mom" who has supreme authority over the crew and the country. She is the creator of the Homies and so control herself the spying network spread through Totto Land via Napoleon who recieves the signals from other Homies when they notice spies or ennemies. She also rules Whole Cake Island directly. Also leads the Special Homies directly.

Right after Big Mom there are the three (formely four) Sweet Commanders, also called Sweet Generals in some versions, who are the strongest fighters and the highest-ranked members of the Big Mom Pirates. In Big Mom's absence they are the ones who are officially in charge of the crew and country and they are supposed to be equal in authority. In practice Charlotte Katakuri is the leader as the oldest and strongest of the Sweet Commanders and he is basically Big Mom's second-in-command and de-facto leader in his mother's absence or rampages. Also each of them is a Minister and so rule their respective island of Totto Land when not on missions.

The Ministers who are the political, administrative and military leaders of the 34 islands of Totto Land outside of Whole Cake Island and serve as commanding officers for the crew when not ruling their respective islands. They are officially all equal in rank and authority through there are exceptions :
- Charlotte Mont d'Or who is the tactician and strategist of the crew and so who formulâtes the plans and coordinates the defense of Totto Land and the Big Mom Pirates' exterior military expeditions.
- The four eldest and strongest children of Big Mom barring the Sweet Commanders : Perospero, Compote, Daifuku and Oven. These four have far greater power and authority on the crew than any other Minister, except the Sweet Commanders and Mont d'Or. Charlotte Perospero as the eldest child of Big Mom is respected enough that his authority matches a Sweet Commander's one and he's unofficially the third-in-command of the crew after Big Mom and Katakuri.

The rest of Big Mom's children still have roles in the crew and serve either as special agents (Pudding, Brûlée) or as military officers or as apprentices (such as Anglais or Anana).

The Combatants : They are the strongest and highest-ranked fighters of the crew outside of the Charlotte children, they are also the ones who generally go outside of Totto Land for missions such as collecting the sweet payements by the protectorate islands, make deals with the Underworld and other affiliates or to hunt down ennemies or specific targets of the crew. They are assigned a chess rank following their position and mission in the crew :
- Pawns : No Combatant have been called by that rank yet, but it's likely that they are the common soldiers and fighters of the crews whenever they are humans, fishmen, minks, dwarves, homies, etc...
- Knights : Officers who lead the subordinates and soldiers and are charged of missions inside and outside of Totto Land. Tamago is one of them.
- Rooks : Same as the Knights but they seem to have a more defensive role and to look for the security of Totto Land though they can also go on special missions outside. Capone Bege was one of them before his open betrayal.
- Bishops : Must be the same as above though their missions and specifics are unknown. Bobbin is one of them.

The Homies : creatures created by Big Mom who gave them life a piece of soul. They are of many many natures, sizes, functions and uses.
-Special Homies: Homies who have been gifted with a portion of Big Mom's soul. They are as such the most powerful of the Homies and usually only obey to Big Mom. The only known examples are Prometheus, Zeus and Napoleon.
Normal Homies : common items, animals, plants or constructions who have been given life by BM. They have countless uses and can serve as everyday help, logistical use, soldiers, spies, scouts, etc...
- Chess Soldiers : The elite soldiers of the Big Mom Pirates due to their fighting prowess and discipline that are above most soldiers and fighters. They are divided in the pawn soldiers, knight soldiers, rook soldiers and bishop soldiers that serve as infantry, light cavalry or artillery soldiers or scouts; and of the queen soldiers(officers) and king soldiers (elite officers and aide).
-Biscuit Soldiers: Soldiers created by Cracker and animated by BM who serve as defensive soldiers and as patrolmen. Due to being made of Cracker's biscuits they are much stronger and more resistant than Pawns and Chess Soldiers and they usually fights in a ancient greek or roman way with them using solid infantry formations, making them a very dangerous force in battle.
- Tarte Tanks : Tanks with a tarte design with wheels and cannons. They serve as heavy cavalry and medium artillery and can be used to pursue ennemies or destroy foes' positions on the battlefield.

Chefs : cooks who prepare meals and feed the rest of the crew and Big Mom in particular due to her large appetite and food sickness. As such their importance is much larger than in other pirate crews and organisations. There are four ranks of chefs :
- The ordinary chefs who cook most of the foods and drinks for Big Mom and the rest of the Big Mom Pirates.
- Sous- Chefs : seconds-in command of the various establishements, cuisines in Totto Land.
-Head-Chefs: In charge of the cuisines and establishements across Totto Land as the most skilled and experienced of the chefs. They can be assembled to work together in rare instances in the WCI 31 group.
- Executive Chef : The most powerful and skilled of the chefs who supervises the efforts of all of them and leads directly the cuisine in Whole Cake Château. This position has been carried ever since the founding of the crew and Totto Land by Streusen whose importance and influence over the crew may be as high if not higher than the Ministers or even the Sweet Commanders, due to him being Big Mom's mentor and parental figure.

Tell me if it's not too long and understandable.
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
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The Tobi Roppo are Headliners. The Numbers can't be between them unless they're Headliners themselves.

Earlier this day, I made a hierarchy chart in my Beasts Pirates fanclub.

Kaido's Hierarchy

Supreme Commander
  • Kaido
Rakugo
Top Officer
  • Lead Performer King
  • Lead Performer Queen
  • Lead Performer Jack
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Who's-Who
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Sasaki
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Page One
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Ulti
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner Black Maria
  • Tobi Roppo Headliner X Drake
Officer
  • Headliner Scotch
  • Headliner Bao Huang
  • Headliner Babanuki
  • Headliner Daifugo
  • Headliner Dobon
  • Headliner Solitaire
  • Headliner Holdem
  • Headliner Speed
  • Headliner Sheepshead
  • Headliner Ginrummy
  • Headliner Basil Hawkins
  • Headliner Scratchmen Apoo
SMILE Users
  • Gifters
  • Pleasures
  • Waiters
Pirate Crew Subordinates
(Minus the captains who become Headliners)
  • Who's-Who's Crew
  • Sasaki's Crew
  • Page One's Crew
  • Ulti's Crew
  • Black Maria's Crew
  • Drake Pirates
  • Scotch's Crew
  • Hawkins Pirates
  • On-Air Pirates
I remember the one point they were referred to as Headliners, however, recent events have serve to distinguish the Flying 6 from the Headliners, such as Queen's roll call, and even non-headliners like Gifters being provided a shot at the rank.

Until further notice, I'm gonna consider that bit of information a retcon. And it was a rather minor piece of evidence, only occupying a single small panel in 929.
 
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#9
The Numbers are probably from the same Giant Race as Kaido. I dont think they are part of the Beast Pirates. They are probably just protectors of Onigashma.

The reason Hachan cant move up to Flying 6 is cause he isnt a Beast Pirate in the first place.

This is all speculation. Dont know if im right..
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
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#10
Something I want to clarify, while the Numbers are most likely not directly affiliated with the Beast Pirates, they still naturally fit in well between Headliners and Flying 6.

Their place among the hierarchy appearing more incidental rather than deliberate. For example, "Haccha" is the Numbers' real name, not a formal position of 8.
 
#11
Something I want to clarify, while the Numbers are most likely not directly affiliated with the Beast Pirates, they still naturally fit in well between Headliners and Flying 6.

Their place among the hierarchy appearing more incidental rather than deliberate. For example, "Haccha" is the Numbers' real name, not a formal position of 8.
The Numbers were mentioned after the Tobi Roppo in the roll call.
 
#12
The Numbers were mentioned after the Tobi Roppo in the roll call.
Not only that but they were de-silhouetted after oda intrudeced & explained the tobi roppo, it doesn't mean that they are more important. but it does imply that they are very important.
it seems to me that the Numbers don't have the mental capacity to function as officers, thats why Hacha won't be made into a tobi roppo even if he kills a supernova, thats why they were accompanied by apoo when they arrived at onigashima, and why apoo was reporting to kaido and not a Number.
their depiction seems consistent with Awakened Zoans, they even have their own unique oda box introduction.

if they're strong, they can serve a great function in the story.
for example instead of having brook or franky fight useless smile headliners or run around having highjinx, you can group franky, brook, usopp, a yakuza boss and a musketeer against a nummber. we have to many distinguished characters in the alliance, they shouldn't be wasted fighting indistinguishable smile fodder.
 

Akai2

Well-Known Member
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#13
I'm sure that not too far in the distant future, when we see Robin again, we'll get a full spread of their confirmed hierarchy (Similar to the Donquixote Family Chart Leo introduced back in DR).
Espionage O-Robi :steef: mentioned that she gained that intelligence among other critical information.



The Flying Six were said to be the most powerful Headliners,
So I agree with Kaido > All Stars > Flying Six > Headliners > Gifters > Pleasures & Waiters

As for the Numbers, it seems to me that they're being treated as brute drunkards who can't be controlled or set in a specific category. For now, I'll agree they're slotted in between the Flying Six and the Headliners.

But waiting on the Official TL to get confirmation on the "Do you think they'll make you a part of the Flying Six?" line.

Great effort putting this together. This is the quality content I'm here for :cheers:
 
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I wonder how strong the Numbers are gonna be, will they be Amande Mont D, Tamago level? Then I can't really see them being a threat to anyone stronger than Franky , they will probably fight either the Middle or Weak trio(most likely the weak Trio unless Oda wants the Gap between the crew to grow even wider) plus Laws and Kidds crews
 
#17
---INTRODUCTION---

I'd like to bring forth how I think Kaido's/Beast Pirates crew works, and this page helped lead to my conclusion-


Better translations should clarify the meaning of the highlight text bubble, but Haccha's, the Number 8 of the Numbers, actions of nabbing the Supernova, per Queen's orders, suggest that the rank of Flying 6 is coveted by the Numbers, which suggest Flying 6 ranks above Numbers. And this is supported by other Beast Pirates factually below Flying 6 also attempting to achieve the position.

Kaido's crew is structured like a pyramid. I shall illustrate it as so-



(Note: Apologies for the rather crude attempt)

There has been references placed that Kaido's crew works like a Meritocracy, and the number of members in a given rank correlate with the strength of its members.


---PLEASURES AND WAITERS---


  • Pleasures and Waiters are the members of Kaido's crew without a abilities. Waiters are specifically those waiting to receive a SMILE in the hopes of becoming a Gifter. Pleasures are those who have received a SMILE, but did not receive any abilities upon consumption. Rather, they lost their ability to swim and to express any other emotions.
  • They are the most numerous section of Kaido's crew, therefore the largest. We do not have a precise number of how many Beast Pirates compose these ranks. All that is known is that 9-10 who consume a SMILE become a pleasure, while those waiting are undetermined.
  • They are ostensibly Kaido's fodders.

Moving on, we have the Gifters.


---GIFTERS---


  • They are confirmed the "lucky ones".
  • Their numbers are 1/10th of what comprises the Pleasures and Waiters. This is due to the 1 to 10 chance someone has at actually receiving the abilities from a SMILE fruit.


Already we are seeing a pattern. The higher the rank, the fewer members there are.

Now on to the Headliners.


---HEADLINERS---


  • Described as the "chosen Gifters", they are among the elite of the Gifters. How many Gifters are chosen to be Headliners is unknown, but the fact they must be chosen naturally excludes some Gifters from becoming Headliners.
  • The position of Headliner isn't just limited to SMILE fruit users either, as some such as Hawkins and potentially Apoo are Headliners themselves. Which makes sense as Headliners are just chosen Gifters. Gifters are merely Devil Fruit users. Of which Hawkins and Apoo are. Their combat prowess would naturally include them among the Elite Gifters.

Now for the toughest rank to evaluate: the Numbers.

---NUMBERS---



Let me preface this section that we still know little about the Numbers, relative to the other ranks. However, we can deduce on where they safely settle within the power chain.

  • Kaido's crew possesses a card theme. This is found through several members being named after card games, or playing card ranks, like "Queen" or "King".
  • The Numbers' faction name, as well as their number designation, may mean they work from 10-2 found in playing cards like poker and are typically rated below cards such as King/Queen/Jack.
  • This is supported by Haccha's name, which comes from 8.


  • This would also mean that there are 9 Numbers in total if the numbers go from 10-2. Less members than the Headliners, Gifters, and Pleasures/Waiters, but more than the Flying 6 and All-Stars.
  • Haccha's motives for attacking the Supernovas are hard to determine, but they imply he seeks to become a Flying 6. However, his fellow crewmembers suggest he can't become one even if he tried.
  • The Numbers could be a fringe membership within Kaido's crew, but it is a fact that they rank below the All-Stars and Kaido himself, and continue the pyramid trend found among all other ranks of Kaido's crew.
  • They have been members within the Beast Pirates for at least 20 years. This is due to the fact they were present during the fall of the Kozuki family.



  • In that time, they have not managed to become All-Stars.
  • Meanwhile, the Flying 6 have members being eyed for the position of All-Star, despite relatively recent additions, apparently.



Speaking of, let's move on the Flying 6, or Tobi Roppo.


---FLYING 6---


  • The Flying 6 is a rank coveted from as low as Pleasures/Waiters and as high as Headliners and potentially Numbers.
  • They continue the trend of fewer, stronger. And it's made even clearer how important it is for there to only be 6 members. This is because someone can only become a Flying 6 should a spot be open. Whether it be due to a member leaving or killed.

  • Due to the infrequent availability, it is possible for there to be Flying 6 caliber fighters within the Beast Pirates that are below Flying 6 in rank, such as Hawkins or Apoo. However, such outliers cannot be use to represent the typical strength discrepancy between ranks. Though it illustrates how difficult the position is at being achieved.

Now on to the highest rank within the Beast Pirates led by Kaido, All-Stars/Lead Performers.


---ALL-STARS---



  • They are Kaido's closest confidants within the crew.

  • They typically lead a unit made up of Headliners, Gifters, and Pleasures and Waiters.
  • They govern over regions of Wano. Queen looking after the Udon region, and Jack the Kuri region.
  • This is the only rank of which the Flying 6 are vying for.
  • The process of acquiring the rank is similar to acquiring the Flying 6 rank. The spot must be made open. While not confirmed, it appears to be a rank only Flying 6 are eligible for. That adds credence to the Flying 6 ranking just below the All-Stars within the hierarchy. And therefore, it's possible for there to be Flying 6 close to the All-Stars in ability.
  • They hold some authority over the Flying 6, as seen with Queen dispatching X-Drake and P1 under the request of Kyoshiro.


And finally, not a formal rank, but the supreme commander of the Beast Pirates, known as the King of Beasts, Emperor Kaido.


---KAIDO---


  • Kaido is the sole ruler of the Beast Pirates, and therefore the sole occupant of this title and position.
  • He is the strongest member of his crew, and inspires more influence than anyone else in it. Even the All-Star King could only get the Flying 6 to heed his commands through Kaido's name.
  • There is no formal means to achieving this position within the Beast Pirates. Only way is if Kaido bequeaths the spot to someone, like his son potentially, or is defeated in battle and usurped by someone. Whether within his crew or out.
  • Kaido's position is akin to the "Ace" card in a few card games. The Ace was typically the best card, and represented the trump card.


In short, the ranks go from valuing quantity the lower they are to valuing quality the higher they are, similar to other Meritocracy systems. So what do you think? Does this paint a good picture on the Beast Pirates' inner structure? Are there some things I missed? Where do you disagree with my assessment? I'm happy to get others' perspectives.
Great post, I think you hit the nail on the head with where the Numbers lie and the whole "number" for each group getting smaller for the more powerful.


Not to mention:

Numbers: 9
Tobi Roppo: 6
All-Stars: 3

Seem to show that the the higher ranks decrease by 3 as they go up.

Really, the only big mysteries left are:

- Yamato and his positions with the crew. Is he weak and/or a child? Is he very powerful? If he's powerful, where does he lay on the pyramid?
- The Ace is oddly the only value not yet shown by Kaido's crew. Kaido has not been referenced as the Ace (though he still can be, who knows) at this time. Would the Ace be stronger than the All-Stars and directly under Kaido? Is Yamato the Ace?


So you have these 2 factors above. Leading to 4 additional possibilities:

- Yamato is weak and there is no Ace= We've seen all the beasts pirates (save for the Numbers)

- Yamato is powerful and there is no Ace, or he is the Ace= 1 more powerful member to be shown

- Yamato is weak and there is an Ace= 1 more member to be shown

- Yamato is powerful and there is an Ace= 2 more beasts pirates to be shown.


Kind of hope it's the last one (even if it's overkill lol)
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
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Great post, I think you hit the nail on the head with where the Numbers lie and the whole "number" for each group getting smaller for the more powerful.


Not to mention:

Numbers: 9
Tobi Roppo: 6
All-Stars: 3

Seem to show that the the higher ranks decrease by 3 as they go up.

Really, the only big mysteries left are:

- Yamato and his positions with the crew. Is he weak and/or a child? Is he very powerful? If he's powerful, where does he lay on the pyramid?
- The Ace is oddly the only value not yet shown by Kaido's crew. Kaido has not been referenced as the Ace (though he still can be, who knows) at this time. Would the Ace be stronger than the All-Stars and directly under Kaido? Is Yamato the Ace?


So you have these 2 factors above. Leading to 4 additional possibilities:

- Yamato is weak and there is no Ace= We've seen all the beasts pirates (save for the Numbers)

- Yamato is powerful and there is no Ace, or he is the Ace= 1 more powerful member to be shown

- Yamato is weak and there is an Ace= 1 more member to be shown

- Yamato is powerful and there is an Ace= 2 more beasts pirates to be shown.


Kind of hope it's the last one (even if it's overkill lol)
Well, if Yamato is indeed strong and Kaido's true Ace, Kaido himself being the player ultimately, then I can see a scenario in which he is Luffy's big 1v1 of the arc, and Kaido is fought by everyone in the end. It could even justify some of Luffy's Udon training, as Yamato could have a similar hard hide like Kaido.

I personally believe he is a child that will bounce off Momo, but the former outcome is still possible.
 
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Well, if Yamato is indeed strong and Kaido's true Ace, Kaido himself being the player ultimately, then I can see a scenario in which he is Luffy's big 1v1 of the arc, and Kaido is fought by every in the end. It could even justify some of Luffy's Udon training, as Yamato could have a similar hard hide like Kaido.

I personally believe he is a child that will bounce off Momo, but the former outcome is still possible.
Yes, sort of along the lines that either there are no more BP members to be shown (save for Yamato) or the Ace is a separate entity from Kaido/Yamato.

Really curious to see how this ends up working lol
 
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