Powers & Abilities Did Luffy just use his ultimate attack on Kaido?

Was Luffy's Supreme Kong Gun his ultimate attack?


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nik87

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Spamming attacks became almost useless since Kaido revealed FS.
I dont see the logic in that statement.
You are assuming they are useless because he can avoid them?
How does that make a single hit better? :milaugh:
Spamming attacks are the way to go against FS or simply big/fast attacks that FS cannot avoid.
You are, kind of, right with the first statement - in Kaido's case - spamming attacks is better.
At least for Luffy who is blunt damage user and gains nothing from a single "stronger" hit.
 
I dont see the logic in that statement.
You are assuming they are useless because he can avoid them?
How does that make a single hit better? :milaugh:
Spamming attacks are the way to go against FS or simply big/fast attacks that FS cannot avoid.
You are, kind of, right with the first statement - in Kaido's case - spamming attacks is better.
At least for Luffy who is blunt damage user and gains nothing from a single "stronger" hit.
His spamming attacks gets stronger the more he stretches his arms, Hydra is a spam of Culverins. Kaido was at some distance from him, giving Luffy some advantage with this mechanic.
But still, every single hit is below individual techniques, which gives Kaido time to deal with it if he has FS in this case and enough speed by himself, since the hits wont deal enough damage for him to being cornered by them without being able to respond.

While individual attacks only need to hit the target and will deal damage as much as several spammed hits, they have 50% of landing, either yes or either not, 100% in this fight since they are fightning head on and Kaido's style is mostly like a brute.
 

nik87

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His spamming attacks gets stronger the more he stretches his arms, Hydra is a spam of Culverins. Kaido was at some distance from him, giving Luffy some advantage with this mechanic.
But still, every single hit is below individual techniques, which gives Kaido time to deal with it if he has FS in this case and enough speed by himself, since the hits wont deal enough damage for him to being cornered by them without being able to respond.

While individual attacks only need to hit the target and will deal damage as much as several spammed hits, they have 50% of landing, either yes or either not, 100% in this fight since they are fightning head on and Kaido's style is mostly like a brute.
Now you messed up... All you had to do is answer with Yes to my first quote...
I baited you from the right answer into the wrong ones... :kriwhat:
The more he stretches his arms the longer it takes for him to deliver a hit that will be not more effective anyway because more physical power doesnt work against Kaido which is the main reason why single hitters dont work...

He just needs to spam and you need to forget or remove physical power from the equation completely.
Base hits are the same as his strongest SKG. On Kaido haki is the only effective thing and haki is the same regardless of the move he uses.
There is no move in Luffy's arsenal that can harm Kaido more than his base hit. He only needs to deliver hits because that's the only chance he stands - exhausting Kaido and that is done through many hits instead of one.

Even if Kaido falls from one "mighty" last hit, it wasnt because that hit was more effective than others but because Kaido simply reached 0% HP. Kaido is a special case for Luffy, we all knew he signed his own death the moment he went into G4. He should have just used G2 Gattling.
 
Now you messed up... All you had to do is answer with Yes to my first quote...
I baited you from the right answer into the wrong ones... :kriwhat:
The more he stretches his arms the longer it takes for him to deliver a hit that will be not more effective anyway because more physical power doesnt work against Kaido which is the main reason why single hitters dont work...

He just needs to spam and you need to forged or remove physical power from the equation completely.
Base hits are the same as his strongest SKG. On Kaido haki is the only effective thing and haki is the same regardless of the move he uses.
There is no move in Luffy's arsenal that can harm Kaido more than his base hit. He only needs to deliver hits because that's the only chance he stands - exhausting Kaido and that is done through many hits instead of one.

Even if Kaido falls from one "mighty" last hit, it wasnt because that hit was more effective than others but because Kaido simply reached 0% HP. Kaido is a special case for Luffy, we all knew he signed his own death the moment he went into G4.
Yes, they became useless. Already told it in my first comment.

That problem of larger distance = more time for the hit to reach Kaido is only for the "first hit". Once he lands a hit, Kaido will start taking damage, which will start cornering Kaido so there won't be any problem about the next hits coming X time after the first one. After the first hit, Kaido starts to being pushed into a passive stance.
He could blocked a hit only:
https://temp.compsci88.com/manga/One-Piece/1042-005.png
But then again he lost the initiative which lasted that single moment and Luffy again cornered him:
https://temp.compsci88.com/manga/One-Piece/1042-006.png

That's all he could do against that spam until he uses FS, which gives him X time of advantage and can evade those "new firsts hits" ("new" because now he is in another "mode" with FS turned on, which makes a "reset" in the game and they start again).

Base hits are not the same as G4 hits, what the fuck are you smoking. G4 armonizes Haki with Rubber, giving much more tension to the rubber which makes the hits much stronger + the Bellamy's DF mechanics Luffy put in this form + his body is bigger = more power.
And use some of those few brain cells you have, what's the point of G4 if he can deal the same damage in Base :suresure:
 

nik87

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Base hits are not the same as G4 hits, what the fuck are you smoking.
In Kaido's case, they deal the exact same damage because more physical power does nothing to Kaido aside from pushing him around.
You literally just saw his strongest move Supreme Kong Gun deal the same damage that his nameless base hit did - nothing.
My brain cells are fine, Purple-chan, you just haven't understood that Kaido makes physical power useless. :smoothy:
 
In Kaido's case, they deal the exact same damage because more physical power does nothing to Kaido aside from pushing him around.
You literally just saw his strongest move Supreme Kong Gun deal the same damage that his nameless base hit did - nothing.
My brain cells are fine, Purple-chan, you just haven't understood that Kaido makes physical power useless. :smoothy:
Ofc it does lmfao.
Your logic says that Saitama wont desintegrate Kaido from existence since he does not have Haki :gokulaugh:

Kaido's skin is only a kevlar, it's hard but that's all. Bullets still can break your ribs despite you wearing a kevlar, the blunt impact you will still eat it almost entirely. The kevlar will only protect you from the bullets piercing your body.

No, you saw what Oda always does, which is not being coherent at all with how the damage taken is being described in the images. There are panels where Luffy "seems" like he did more damage in Base to Kaido than currently with a stronger mode. That's all.
 

nik87

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Ofc it does lmfao.
Your logic says that Saitama wont desintegrate Kaido from existence since he does not have Haki :gokulaugh:

Kaido's skin is only a kevlar, it's hard but that's all. Bullets still can break your ribs despite you wearing a kevlar, the blunt impact you will still eat it almost entirely. The kevlar will only protect you from the bullets piercing your body.

No, you saw what Oda always does, which is not being coherent at all with how the damage taken is being described in the images. There are panels where Luffy "seems" like he did more damage in Base to Kaido than currently with a stronger mode. That's all.
No, Purple-chan. My logic says OP isnt in Saitama's universe. Stop it, silly you... :smoothy:
You obviously havent paid attention, Kaido isnt wearing kevlar, he is tough inside too.
If he wasnt, Kidd's Punk Vise would have damaged him or lolffy when he was inside his mouth where there is no "kevlar".
Doesnt matter what move he used, he always dealt the same low damaji. That much is a fact. :goyea:
 
To be honest u are dumb
To be honest he's so smart unlike you who is dumb can't even know the obvious fact
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Using his logic G2 + G3 did better than Rooftop Zoro.
Using his logic g2 g3 can't even do what non Advcoc zoro do.tatsumaki did more damage than Luffy final attack
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Zoro non Advcoc attack>>>Luffy Advcoc final attack
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Luffytards hype Luffy when the truth Luffy is fodder if compare to zoro
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Luffy final attack easily hold by nerf cpo boss.luffy strength is on par with nerf cpo boss
 
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To be honest he's so smart unlike you who is dumb can't even know the obvious fact
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Using his logic g2 g3 can't even do what non Advcoc zoro do.tatsumaki did more damage than Luffy final attack
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Zoro non Advcoc attack>>>Luffy Advcoc final attack
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Luffytards hype Luffy when the truth Luffy is fodder if compare to zoro
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Luffy final attack easily hold by nerf cpo boss.luffy strength is on par with nerf cpo boss
All you have to do is check his threads, but I guess you gotta take off your Zolo glasses for that 🀑
 
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