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Careful with that. That's what I was saying when I felt into complotism and antisemitism.
I was capable of doing my own research and thinking with my own mind, but I only looked at the places, websites, videos, channels, books and people that were confirming what I was already thinking.
This is the confirmation bias trap.
What is not mainstream for you ?
Wait, you don't trust scientists because of a food pyramid ?
Zemmi is actually the only one here among you reactionnaries that didn't fully lose my respect. She hasn't depicted any intolerant behavior (at my knowledge) toward anyone.
She is more openminded than you guys and that's why I'm not attacking her like I'm attacking you.
I was capable of doing my own research and thinking with my own mind, but I only looked at the places, websites, videos, channels, books and people that were confirming what I was already thinking.
This is the confirmation bias trap.
What is not mainstream for you ?
Wait, you don't trust scientists because of a food pyramid ?
Zemmi is actually the only one here among you reactionnaries that didn't fully lose my respect. She hasn't depicted any intolerant behavior (at my knowledge) toward anyone.
She is more openminded than you guys and that's why I'm not attacking her like I'm attacking you.
My 11 year-old might be a democrat 
If I tell her no in walmart she calls me a racist and segregationist. WHERE PEOPLE CAN HEAR.
Just now I was on the phone with one of our employees. She says where the person can hear. Is he white, that's racist, but if he's black that's more racist.
She is just making fun of everyone always saying things are racist.
If I tell her no in walmart she calls me a racist and segregationist. WHERE PEOPLE CAN HEAR.
Just now I was on the phone with one of our employees. She says where the person can hear. Is he white, that's racist, but if he's black that's more racist.
She is just making fun of everyone always saying things are racist.
So you’re willing to look past deregulation and the off-shoring of jobs because of the culture war? I can understand why defund the police is a bad idea but it is incredible how much you’ll forgive from a party that denies climate change, gives massive tax cuts for the rich, and undermines individual rights that have been a given for 50 years now.
Because big companies influence what scientist says. Like the food pyramid I personally believe contributed to the unhealthy state of the Unite States.
Cigarettes were even once said to be good for you.
Let's not even get into the shifting theories on how eating eggs (insert various other foods such as meats) effects the human body.
Or how they push medications or treatment. Such as last year I had an experience where a certain birth control was pushed on me by my doctor. I asked for it to be removed because I knew something was wrong. He persuaded me to keep it and 3 months later I had to have a surgery because of it.
So yeah, I don't really trust 'experts' either.
Cigarettes were even once said to be good for you.
Let's not even get into the shifting theories on how eating eggs (insert various other foods such as meats) effects the human body.
Or how they push medications or treatment. Such as last year I had an experience where a certain birth control was pushed on me by my doctor. I asked for it to be removed because I knew something was wrong. He persuaded me to keep it and 3 months later I had to have a surgery because of it.
So yeah, I don't really trust 'experts' either.
I gather information from everywhere. I don't have a certain media I turn to. Such as medical stuff I read information from the source, but look for personal experiences.
We live in a world of information abundance. Not even experts agree with each other and many have various different thoughts. I try to take in all the information I can to make decisions.
We live in a world of information abundance. Not even experts agree with each other and many have various different thoughts. I try to take in all the information I can to make decisions.
The only reason you hate me so much is because I’m one of the few people in here who’ll actually make you see how ignorant and small you are without trolling you. You simply don’t like it when you’re humiliated and unable to come up with a smart, well thought out retort, because you lack the education to do so.
In what way ? (I'm not educated on the subject)
Yes of course, but they are the BEST SOURCES of information despite that
In fact in reality its not scientist who are the problems rather than the system in which scientist have to publish their researches
So, when a study might give a SLIGHLY bias conclusion or sets of data, any other sources will be x1000 more influenced by potential problematic contexts or situations:
- Political agenda
- The seek of audiance
- Confirmations biases
- Poor researches
- Lack of understanding
Etc.
Really, and this should not even be told, you MUST trust scientists or you will put literally your life in potential danger.
Remember that scientists also do not always agree with eachothers. And i'm sure that what you are calling a problem has been researched by scientists themselves !
Yes.
That's why I always say that science must never forget that it is political. And this goes both way.
It means that science must stay strong against lobbies but it also means that when lobbies are trying to deny science, science must act politically to delegitimize them as well.
This is the case, for example for Climate change, where the scientific consensus and the research are not debatable and where lobbies are trying to negate, invizibilize or threaten the research in order for big compagnies to keep polluting without accountabilities.
Yes, but that was a doctor and a very bad one.. I hope you understand that this has nothing to do with the scientific consensus or scientific studies.
Medecine is not an exact science, and it doesn't work the same way with different people (i know full well about that, since I have problems with my own treatment) but there are still people who need those and for whome those medecine works.
You won't heal through the power of an healing stone, you will heal only if you care to see a doctor.
I'm sorry about your experiences, I hope there will be consequences for their career because its not normal but you can't generalize bad experiences with the distrust for science. (same with you @Bisoromi Bear , yeah, I didn't forget that)
Science is the best way we have to understand the world. If you start listening to people to seek for answer instead of listening to scientist, you will not find yourself on a very pleasant path at the end of the line. Trust me, I did that, took me years to recover.
Your attacks are as paintfull as the steps of a fly on my skin mate, do not overestimate yourself.
Yes of course, but they are the BEST SOURCES of information despite that
In fact in reality its not scientist who are the problems rather than the system in which scientist have to publish their researches
So, when a study might give a SLIGHLY bias conclusion or sets of data, any other sources will be x1000 more influenced by potential problematic contexts or situations:
- Political agenda
- The seek of audiance
- Confirmations biases
- Poor researches
- Lack of understanding
Etc.
Really, and this should not even be told, you MUST trust scientists or you will put literally your life in potential danger.
Remember that scientists also do not always agree with eachothers. And i'm sure that what you are calling a problem has been researched by scientists themselves !
Yes.
That's why I always say that science must never forget that it is political. And this goes both way.
It means that science must stay strong against lobbies but it also means that when lobbies are trying to deny science, science must act politically to delegitimize them as well.
This is the case, for example for Climate change, where the scientific consensus and the research are not debatable and where lobbies are trying to negate, invizibilize or threaten the research in order for big compagnies to keep polluting without accountabilities.
Yes, but that was a doctor and a very bad one.. I hope you understand that this has nothing to do with the scientific consensus or scientific studies.
Medecine is not an exact science, and it doesn't work the same way with different people (i know full well about that, since I have problems with my own treatment) but there are still people who need those and for whome those medecine works.
You won't heal through the power of an healing stone, you will heal only if you care to see a doctor.
I'm sorry about your experiences, I hope there will be consequences for their career because its not normal but you can't generalize bad experiences with the distrust for science. (same with you @Bisoromi Bear , yeah, I didn't forget that)
Science is the best way we have to understand the world. If you start listening to people to seek for answer instead of listening to scientist, you will not find yourself on a very pleasant path at the end of the line. Trust me, I did that, took me years to recover.
Your attacks are as paintfull as the steps of a fly on my skin mate, do not overestimate yourself.
Nazi America 1946, Reich rally. The People are calling for the mass deportation of Jews, black people, handicaped people, homosexual and communists :
Wait !!
No I'm sorry !!! Its 2024, Trump rally, the people are asking for the mass deportation of immigrants.
Why did I get that wrong ?
And I hope that you understand that there are NO other places were you can find valuable information other than with scientists about subject related to the understanding of the universe, life or the comprehension of medecine, economics, social behaviors or other foundamental stuff related to science...
Wait !!
No I'm sorry !!! Its 2024, Trump rally, the people are asking for the mass deportation of immigrants.
Why did I get that wrong ?
And I hope that you understand that there are NO other places were you can find valuable information other than with scientists about subject related to the understanding of the universe, life or the comprehension of medecine, economics, social behaviors or other foundamental stuff related to science...
Nazi America 1946, Reich rally. The People are calling for the mass deportation of Jews, black people, handicaped people, homosexual and communists :
Wait !!
No I'm sorry !!! Its 2024, Trump rally, the people are asking for the mass deportation of immigrants.
Why did I get that wrong ?
And I hope that you understand that there are NO other places were you can find valuable information other than with scientists about subject related to the understanding of the universe, life or the comprehension of medecine, economics, social behaviors or other foundamental stuff related to science...
Wait !!
No I'm sorry !!! Its 2024, Trump rally, the people are asking for the mass deportation of immigrants.
Why did I get that wrong ?
And I hope that you understand that there are NO other places were you can find valuable information other than with scientists about subject related to the understanding of the universe, life or the comprehension of medecine, economics, social behaviors or other foundamental stuff related to science...
Like I have said before, Americans, pretty much all of us, love immigration, but we want them to be vetted. Not 100% how true it is, but I heard we are the only place that considers people just Americans, when they become legal citizens. I don't know if any other country does it.
This is a complicated subject because I can see both sides. For those who came here with desperation and an honest desire for the American dream. It sucks. Especially for those fleeing dangerous places.
On the other side. There are people waiting in backlog to do things the right/legal way and it's not fair to them. Also, even for one person who is hurt or loses a loved one to someone dangerous who crossed, it's a major deal for that person/family.
Neither party has a perfect design here. We can't just be open and there are people who need our help.
I don't have the answer here, but I also want to know who is coming in. We don't need anyone else's bad guys when we have plenty of homegrown ones.
This is a complicated subject because I can see both sides. For those who came here with desperation and an honest desire for the American dream. It sucks. Especially for those fleeing dangerous places.
On the other side. There are people waiting in backlog to do things the right/legal way and it's not fair to them. Also, even for one person who is hurt or loses a loved one to someone dangerous who crossed, it's a major deal for that person/family.
Neither party has a perfect design here. We can't just be open and there are people who need our help.
I don't have the answer here, but I also want to know who is coming in. We don't need anyone else's bad guys when we have plenty of homegrown ones.
Scientists still don't really understand shit about the "universe and life." No one does, so far, this is pretty much anyone's game, including religions. As long as you don't lose your grasp of reality, it's not that bad... It can be positive, in fact.
But yeah, this simulation stuff is really a meaningless what-if scenario that doesn't really change anyone's life. The only thing I remember trying to back it up were some outdated experiments involving atoms, which I really don't think "normal people" could have enough background to even agree or disagree with. Other than that, Elon Musk only touched on the subject because it seems like a "cool", revolutionary (it's really not), and technological idea, and that's how he likes to present himself.
But yeah, this simulation stuff is really a meaningless what-if scenario that doesn't really change anyone's life. The only thing I remember trying to back it up were some outdated experiments involving atoms, which I really don't think "normal people" could have enough background to even agree or disagree with. Other than that, Elon Musk only touched on the subject because it seems like a "cool", revolutionary (it's really not), and technological idea, and that's how he likes to present himself.