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I did, that's why I shared with you studies that you didn't read.
The point is that if accepting LGBTQI+ people is morally wrong in regards to religious text, then being moral and accepting them shows that morality is not dependent of religious but our sociological context.
No I proved to you that this is actually the opposite and that morality can exist without religion. For example it seems that there are moral subjects in the animal realm according to what I just shared with you. And yet, no religion. Meaning that :
Morality came first and religion second.
Which is actually logical since religion is all about the control of morality and not the other way around.
This means that a society without religion can still be a moral society.
The point is that if accepting LGBTQI+ people is morally wrong in regards to religious text, then being moral and accepting them shows that morality is not dependent of religious but our sociological context.
No I proved to you that this is actually the opposite and that morality can exist without religion. For example it seems that there are moral subjects in the animal realm according to what I just shared with you. And yet, no religion. Meaning that :
Morality came first and religion second.
Which is actually logical since religion is all about the control of morality and not the other way around.
This means that a society without religion can still be a moral society.
Its still here. This is the thread that I created.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/religions-spiritualities-conversations.50359/
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/religions-spiritualities-conversations.50359/
Animals (except humans obviously) aren't concept users, so their communication is very primitive, they can't form judgments, much less stories, and much less a complex system of belief like religion. But of course, a new animal species can emerge and be concept user species and then create belief systems. Or may exist a sapient alien race that also are concept users...
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You post whatever you want there. I'm not against religious discussion, that's precisely why I created it.
And yes, my mind is set simply because this is logical. To write religion and therefore moral concepts, you must be AWARE of those concepts in the first place. Meaning that religious morality was created by people who were already aware of had a form of morality in the first place.
And this is - again - logical, since morality is only the result of a social pressure. Social pressure that can happen among humans or other animals.
And yes, my mind is set simply because this is logical. To write religion and therefore moral concepts, you must be AWARE of those concepts in the first place. Meaning that religious morality was created by people who were already aware of had a form of morality in the first place.
And this is - again - logical, since morality is only the result of a social pressure. Social pressure that can happen among humans or other animals.
I heard a story about an elephant that got shot and traveled many miles to an elephant sanctuary somewhere in Africa to get treat. Workers there found out one of the elephants they raised was part of his group,so they think he pointed the injured Elephant to the proper direction to save himself. Animal capabilities are unknown, but they certainly don't inherit culture due their lack of proper communication. Otherwise, there would be quite a variety of different habits among them, which is not the case.