Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zemmi]

As many have already told you, inflation and COVID played a big part in it. Let’s not forget gas prices started skyrocketing under him toward the end, even though it wasn’t entirely his fault.

Not to mention how he promised not to outsource jobs and he ended up outsourcing over 200,000 jobs. Trump is not a protectionist by any stretch of the imagination. When it comes to economic policy, he governed as a standard republican.

I know a bit about money since I have a degree in business and have handled all financial operations of my father's company, 2013. So I will take my risk for what has the highest chance of being financial better for me. If I'm wrong, welp. I do think I have data to support my bet, even without knowledge by just looking at my bank/credit cards, for the last 8 years.

I also care about the boarder, since I live on the Louisiana/Texas line. Braid-dead movements like defund the police would ever happen on the right. And ideology telling my children because of their skin-color and in my daughter case, her sex, will hold her back is absolutely unacceptable. So blessed, I had wise people who never once told me anything would hold me back. God knows where I would be if I had that notion poisoned in my mind.
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Hi

 

[Logiko]

One theory was god didn't want to hear him talking about how he was the best angel ever yet or two that he isn't done with revealing how corrupt our political system is.

Wow..

You understand that Trump, as a Billionnaire and a future president is PART of the system, right ?

Or not at all ?

Something I'm going to look up this weekend is he said some about Elon believing we are in a simulation. I'm sure some of y'all know something about it but its only the 2nd time I heard it in passing.

Without sounding irrespectfull. Be careful of where you take your informations from, especially when its Elon Musk talking, a guy that doesn't even understand his own industry and own systems or Trump a litteral scientific denier.

If you have doubts, talk about scientists.

The simulation theory has nothing to do with Trump or Musk or the system or even planet Earth or the Milky way, its a cosmological hypothesis implying that the entire universe is simulated just like a video game computer (to be caricatural). Its before everything a thought experiment.

I want to attribute this to Trump himself

Or simply.. probabilities..

- The shooter was inexperimented
- He was using a military rifle and not a sniper for a distance of 120 to 150 meters
- Trumps moves a lot when he speaks, so to target his head precisely is a literally a dumb move.

I also care about the boarder, since I live on the Louisiana/Texas line. Braid-dead movements like defund the police would ever happen on the right. And ideology telling my children because of their skin-color and in my daughter case, her sex, will hold her back is absolutely unacceptable.

Maybe you should listen to actual scientists instead of Joe Rogan. You would understand the importance of what you are denouncing.





Also be careful not to divinize the current Trump assassination attempt. This can lead toward evangelical radicalization.. not good.

 

[Zemmi]

Wow..

You understand that Trump, as a Billionnaire and a future president is PART of the system, right ?

Or not at all ?



Without sounding irrespectfull. Be careful of where you take your informations from, especially when its Elon Musk talking, a guy that doesn't even understand his own industry and own systems or Trump a litteral scientific denier.

If you have doubts, talk about scientists.

The simulation theory has nothing to do with Trump or Musk or the system or even planet Earth or the Milky way, its a cosmological hypothesis implying that the entire universe is simulated just like a video game computer (to be caricatural). Its before everything a thought experiment.

Or simply.. probabilities..

- The shooter was inexperimented
- He was using a military rifle and not a sniper for a distance of 120 to 150 meters
- Trumps moves a lot when he speaks, so to target his head precisely is a literally a dumb move.


Maybe you should listen to actual scientists instead of Joe Rogan. You would understand the importance of what you are denouncing.





Also be careful not to divinize the current Trump assassination attempt. This can lead toward evangelical radicalization.. not good.

Never said I follow them or anyone. I'm super big on doing my own research and thinking with my own mind. My distrust on the main-stream goes to everyone. I do like listening to others. I am curious about the simulation thing is because before I heard it today. I heard to creative, non-political, creative types talk about it briefly.

The food pyramid... why I don't trust scientist either.

 

[Roo]

Culture war shit is cringe, but choosing to vote a known traitor because of it is even more cringe
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Stfu

 

[Ravagerblade]

I know a bit about money since I have a degree in business and have handled all financial operations of my father's company, 2013. So I will take my risk for what has the highest chance of being financial better for me. If I'm wrong, welp. I do think I have data to support my bet, even without knowledge by just looking at my bank/credit cards, for the last 8 years.

I also care about the boarder, since I live on the Louisiana/Texas line. Braid-dead movements like defund the police would ever happen on the right. And ideology telling my children because of their skin-color and in my daughter case, her sex, will hold her back is absolutely unacceptable. So blessed, I had wise people who never once told me anything would hold me back. God knows where I would be if I had that notion poisoned in my mind.
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Hi

You're trying real hard not to be rude to this dude. Your strong.

 

[Zemmi]

You're trying real hard not to be rude to this dude. Your strong.

It just doesn't bother me. I can make my points without being ugly or mean usually. There are things to be said about the tactics when people start getting mean or mad.

 

[Logiko]

I'm super big on doing my own research and thinking with my own mind.

Careful with that. That's what I was saying when I felt into complotism and antisemitism.

I was capable of doing my own research and thinking with my own mind, but I only looked at the places, websites, videos, channels, books and people that were confirming what I was already thinking.

This is the confirmation bias trap.

My distrust on the main-stream goes to everyone. I do like listening to others.

What is not mainstream for you ?

The food pyramid... why I don't trust scientist either.

Wait, you don't trust scientists because of a food pyramid ?

You're trying real hard not to be rude to this dude. Your strong.

Zemmi is actually the only one here among you reactionnaries that didn't fully lose my respect. She hasn't depicted any intolerant behavior (at my knowledge) toward anyone.

She is more openminded than you guys and that's why I'm not attacking her like I'm attacking you.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

My 11 year-old might be a democrat

If I tell her no in walmart she calls me a racist and segregationist. WHERE PEOPLE CAN HEAR.

Just now I was on the phone with one of our employees. She says where the person can hear. Is he white, that's racist, but if he's black that's more racist.

She is just making fun of everyone always saying things are racist.

The issue is rather that democrats sound childish like your 11 year old.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I know a bit about money since I have a degree in business and have handled all financial operations of my father's company, 2013. So I will take my risk for what has the highest chance of being financial better for me. If I'm wrong, welp. I do think I have data to support my bet, even without knowledge by just looking at my bank/credit cards, for the last 8 years.

I also care about the boarder, since I live on the Louisiana/Texas line. Braid-dead movements like defund the police would ever happen on the right. And ideology telling my children because of their skin-color and in my daughter case, her sex, will hold her back is absolutely unacceptable. So blessed, I had wise people who never once told me anything would hold me back. God knows where I would be if I had that notion poisoned in my mind.

So you’re willing to look past deregulation and the off-shoring of jobs because of the culture war? I can understand why defund the police is a bad idea but it is incredible how much you’ll forgive from a party that denies climate change, gives massive tax cuts for the rich, and undermines individual rights that have been a given for 50 years now.

 

[Zemmi]

Careful with that. That's what I was saying when I felt into complotism and antisemitism.

I was capable of doing my own research and thinking with my own mind, but I only looked at the places, websites, videos, channels, books and people that were confirming what I was already thinking.

This is the confirmation bias trap.

What is not mainstream for you ?



Wait, you don't trust scientists because of a food pyramid ?



Zemmi is actually the only one here among you reactionnaries that didn't fully lose my respect. She hasn't depicted any intolerant behavior (at my knowledge) toward anyone.

She is more openminded than you guys and that's why I'm not attacking her like I'm attacking you.

Because big companies influence what scientist says. Like the food pyramid I personally believe contributed to the unhealthy state of the Unite States.

Cigarettes were even once said to be good for you.

Let's not even get into the shifting theories on how eating eggs (insert various other foods such as meats) effects the human body.

Or how they push medications or treatment. Such as last year I had an experience where a certain birth control was pushed on me by my doctor. I asked for it to be removed because I knew something was wrong. He persuaded me to keep it and 3 months later I had to have a surgery because of it.

So yeah, I don't really trust 'experts' either.

 

[Roo]

Because big companies influence what scientist says. Like the food pyramid I personally believe contributed to the unhealthy state of the Unite States.

Cigarettes were even once said to be good for you.

Let's not even get into the shifting theories on how eating eggs (insert various other foods such as meats) effects the human body.

Or how they push medications or treatment. Such as last year I had an experience where a certain birth control was pushed on me by my doctor. I asked for it to be removed because I knew something was wrong. He persuaded me to keep it and 3 months later I had to have a surgery because of it.

So yeah, I don't really trust 'experts' either.

So who do you trust then

 

[Zemmi]

So who do you trust then

I gather information from everywhere. I don't have a certain media I turn to. Such as medical stuff I read information from the source, but look for personal experiences.

We live in a world of information abundance. Not even experts agree with each other and many have various different thoughts. I try to take in all the information I can to make decisions.

 

[Roo]

I gather information from everywhere. I don't have a certain media I turn to. Such as medical stuff I read information from the source, but look for personal experiences.

We live in a world of information abundance. Not even experts agree with each other and many have various different thoughts. I try to take in all the information I can to make decisions.

My issue with this when people say they get their source from “everywhere” they all coincidentally come from a right wing bent or anti establishment bent like Joe Rogan. Like at that point is kinda obvious you’re just looking for stuff that aligns with your biases. Not saying you do just in general

 

[Zemmi]

My issue with this when people say they get their source from “everywhere” they all coincidentally come from a right wing bent or anti establishment bent like Joe Rogan. Like at that point is kinda obvious you’re just looking for stuff that aligns with your biases. Not saying you do just in general

Fair enough. I'm me and the only people I follow routinely is rock bands.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Fair enough. I'm me and the only people I follow routinely is rock bands.

Just rock? How about Metal? Oohh I did show you Avatar before right?
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Careful with that. That's what I was saying when I felt into complotism and antisemitism.

I was capable of doing my own research and thinking with my own mind, but I only looked at the places, websites, videos, channels, books and people that were confirming what I was already thinking.

This is the confirmation bias trap.

What is not mainstream for you ?



Wait, you don't trust scientists because of a food pyramid ?



Zemmi is actually the only one here among you reactionnaries that didn't fully lose my respect. She hasn't depicted any intolerant behavior (at my knowledge) toward anyone.

She is more openminded than you guys and that's why I'm not attacking her like I'm attacking you.

The "attacks" part go both ways Mr.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You're trying real hard not to be rude to this dude. Your strong.

The only reason you hate me so much is because I’m one of the few people in here who’ll actually make you see how ignorant and small you are without trolling you. You simply don’t like it when you’re humiliated and unable to come up with a smart, well thought out retort, because you lack the education to do so.

 

[Zemmi]

Just rock? How about Metal? Oohh I did show you Avatar before right?
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The "attacks" part go both ways Mr.

Yeah some metal too. I'm enjoying falling in reverse right now.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Seems like the colonist zionist state doesn't want a two-state solution. Not surprising for anyone who knew anything about them or their ideology.

It is mind boggling just how retarded people are in Hamas and Israel.

Milankovic cycles

Milanovićevi ciklusi*

 

[Logiko]

Like the food pyramid I personally believe contributed to the unhealthy state of the Unite States.

In what way ? (I'm not educated on the subject)

Because big companies influence what scientist says.

Yes of course, but they are the BEST SOURCES of information despite that

In fact in reality its not scientist who are the problems rather than the system in which scientist have to publish their researches

So, when a study might give a SLIGHLY bias conclusion or sets of data, any other sources will be x1000 more influenced by potential problematic contexts or situations:

- Political agenda
- The seek of audiance
- Confirmations biases
- Poor researches
- Lack of understanding
Etc.

Really, and this should not even be told, you MUST trust scientists or you will put literally your life in potential danger.

Remember that scientists also do not always agree with eachothers. And i'm sure that what you are calling a problem has been researched by scientists themselves !

Cigarettes were even once said to be good for you.

Yes.

That's why I always say that science must never forget that it is political. And this goes both way.

It means that science must stay strong against lobbies but it also means that when lobbies are trying to deny science, science must act politically to delegitimize them as well.

This is the case, for example for Climate change, where the scientific consensus and the research are not debatable and where lobbies are trying to negate, invizibilize or threaten the research in order for big compagnies to keep polluting without accountabilities.

Or how they push medications or treatment. Such as last year I had an experience where a certain birth control was pushed on me by my doctor. I asked for it to be removed because I knew something was wrong. He persuaded me to keep it and 3 months later I had to have a surgery because of it.

Yes, but that was a doctor and a very bad one.. I hope you understand that this has nothing to do with the scientific consensus or scientific studies.

Medecine is not an exact science, and it doesn't work the same way with different people (i know full well about that, since I have problems with my own treatment) but there are still people who need those and for whome those medecine works.

You won't heal through the power of an healing stone, you will heal only if you care to see a doctor.

I'm sorry about your experiences, I hope there will be consequences for their career because its not normal but you can't generalize bad experiences with the distrust for science. (same with you @Bisoromi Bear , yeah, I didn't forget that)

Science is the best way we have to understand the world. If you start listening to people to seek for answer instead of listening to scientist, you will not find yourself on a very pleasant path at the end of the line. Trust me, I did that, took me years to recover.

The "attacks" part go both ways Mr.

Your attacks are as paintfull as the steps of a fly on my skin mate, do not overestimate yourself.

 

[Zemmi]

In what way ? (I'm not educated on the subject)



Yes of course, but they are the BEST SOURCES of information despite that

In fact in reality its not scientist who are the problems rather than the system in which scientist have to publish their researches

So, when a study might give a SLIGHLY bias conclusion or sets of data, any other sources will be x1000 more influenced by potential problematic contexts or situations:

- Political agenda
- The seek of audiance
- Confirmations biases
- Poor researches
- Lack of understanding
Etc.

Really, and this should not even be told, you MUST trust scientists or you will put literally your life in potential danger.

Remember that scientists also do not always agree with eachothers. And i'm sure that what you are calling a problem has been researched by scientists themselves !



Yes.

That's why I always say that science must never forget that it is political. And this goes both way.

It means that science must stay strong against lobbies but it also means that when lobbies are trying to deny science, science must act politically to delegitimize them as well.

This is the case, for example for Climate change, where the scientific consensus and the research are not debatable and where lobbies are trying to negate, invizibilize or threaten the research in order for big compagnies to keep polluting without accountabilities.



Yes, but that was a doctor and a very bad one.. I hope you understand that this has nothing to do with the scientific consensus or scientific studies.

Medecine is not an exact science, and it doesn't work the same way with different people (i know full well about that, since I have problems with my own treatment) but there are still people who need those and for whome those medecine works.

You won't heal through the power of an healing stone, you will heal only if you care to see a doctor.

I'm sorry about your experiences, I hope there will be consequences for their career because its not normal but you can't generalize bad experiences with the distrust for science. (same with you @Bisoromi Bear , yeah, I didn't forget that)

Science is the best way we have to understand the world. If you start listening to people to seek for answer instead of listening to scientist, you will not find yourself on a very pleasant path at the end of the line. Trust me, I did that, took me years to recover.



Your attacks are as paintfull as the steps of a fly on my skin mate, do not overestimate yourself.

I hope you understand I'm not saying I never agree with a scientist, etc. I'm just saying I don't go yup, they are right because they are experts and I just look at various places for information, not just one.