Character Discussion I don't like Yamato
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I'm okay with Yamato, just don't care that much right now.
The debut was cool and the talk about Oden's bible, I like the connection with Ace and all, but the character started to just run around while protecting Momonosuke and no new interesting thing happened since that panel with the theeth teasing a DF.
I disagree with your second point for obvious reasons... Yamato's freedom was lost for 20 years because of Kaido, getting beaten since childhood, Luffy proves the handcuffs would really go for the kill, which Yamato still had doubts and he is the man who killed Yamato's freaking idol.
20 years without true freedom and constant fear of bombs exploding on your face are quite a thing, don't you think?
The debut was cool and the talk about Oden's bible, I like the connection with Ace and all, but the character started to just run around while protecting Momonosuke and no new interesting thing happened since that panel with the theeth teasing a DF.
I disagree with your second point for obvious reasons... Yamato's freedom was lost for 20 years because of Kaido, getting beaten since childhood, Luffy proves the handcuffs would really go for the kill, which Yamato still had doubts and he is the man who killed Yamato's freaking idol.
20 years without true freedom and constant fear of bombs exploding on your face are quite a thing, don't you think?
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It's difficult in this case since she is dressed with similar clothes as Oden, her idol... But do you expected to see her semi naked like her father? xD
As for the other features, she has horns like Kaido and she is Luffy x2 in height.
Same with Kaido. He has horns and much taller than an average person.
So they look "alike". I mean, Kaido does not look different from another "normal" person if he'd have average height and without horns. Same with Yamato.
Tama is a plot device. Why is Yamato a plot device? I don't get it.
As for the rest of the point exposed, yes, I agree with you.
So far yes, but she should have her own role later I guess (unless her role is about protecting Momo, which would be lame).
For now her role is fanservicewise, with her sideboobs for example.
As for the other features, she has horns like Kaido and she is Luffy x2 in height.
Same with Kaido. He has horns and much taller than an average person.
So they look "alike". I mean, Kaido does not look different from another "normal" person if he'd have average height and without horns. Same with Yamato.
Tama is a plot device. Why is Yamato a plot device? I don't get it.
As for the rest of the point exposed, yes, I agree with you.
So far yes, but she should have her own role later I guess (unless her role is about protecting Momo, which would be lame).
For now her role is fanservicewise, with her sideboobs for example.
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She has the default female design with Oden's clothes and horns. Compare that to any of the designs from the (female) BM pirates like Smoothie or Amande that do look unique.
She is just there to help Luffy and the others in gaining their victory without any build-up to it. It's just like she popped up at the raid for the sake of helping them without any reciprocity to it. It feels very cheap and irksome.
She is just there to help Luffy and the others in gaining their victory without any build-up to it. It's just like she popped up at the raid for the sake of helping them without any reciprocity to it. It feels very cheap and irksome.
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Glad someone made a thread about this.
My reasons to dislike her are the same. I will write them as a way of agree with you.
Design: The fandom's talk about every girl and woman somehow look like Nami or Robin isn't true. Oda know how draw girls and woman with unique and great designs,which he show through Galette,Amande and Black Maria. Yamato's design not stand out compared to these three.
Character context: Yamato is the daughter of the Wano Country's big evil,and is a worshiper of the Wano Country's big hero. That's the most hollow and generic character context one could have.
Personality: She is a shameful and annoying Oden's fangirl,and a living Plot Device for bring Oden's diary back to storyline and protect the Kozuki Clan's failure.
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My reasons to dislike her are the same. I will write them as a way of agree with you.
Design: The fandom's talk about every girl and woman somehow look like Nami or Robin isn't true. Oda know how draw girls and woman with unique and great designs,which he show through Galette,Amande and Black Maria. Yamato's design not stand out compared to these three.
Character context: Yamato is the daughter of the Wano Country's big evil,and is a worshiper of the Wano Country's big hero. That's the most hollow and generic character context one could have.
Personality: She is a shameful and annoying Oden's fangirl,and a living Plot Device for bring Oden's diary back to storyline and protect the Kozuki Clan's failure.
@nik87 @HA001 @Kejon @Bullet @Guymieux @MarineHQ62 @Jackteo @Orojackson Refugee @imacub @Topi Jerami @The White Crane @Luffy bin Dragon @ZoroSlaysDragonTuna
I definitely agree. The most bothersome part to me is her design. I dont usually mix up the female designs, but Nami and Yamato are way too close, especially for a Straw Hat candidate. The worst part is how similar their bangs are. When I first skimmed through chapter 999, I didn’t even realize there was a scene change from Yamato’s POV to Nami’s POV because these panels are one page apart:
once I actually read through the chapter and realized it was Nami and not Yamato on that page, I knew I didn’t want Yamato as a Straw Hat lmao. If Yamato became a Straw Hat, she and Nami would likely be in the same room/scene more often which would make things 1000x more confusing. People don’t realize how similar they look right now because they haven’t met yet...
once I actually read through the chapter and realized it was Nami and not Yamato on that page, I knew I didn’t want Yamato as a Straw Hat lmao. If Yamato became a Straw Hat, she and Nami would likely be in the same room/scene more often which would make things 1000x more confusing. People don’t realize how similar they look right now because they haven’t met yet...
I disagree on almost every point here, but that seems to be because we have different expectations for the character moving forwards.
I mean, fair, she does still have Oda's generic female design as the basis for her face despite the unusually harsh eyebrows, horns, color scheme and outfit.
But on the other hand, I will still suggest that its unique, because she's still the very first character with such a "Pretty" design, being portrayed as such a physical powerhouse.
You cant really be calling her a plot device when she's accomplished so little so far, can you? I mean, she took out a number and prevented a conclusion to Luffy vs Ulti. And she's be trying to keep momonosuke safe.
She's definitely most interesting due to her character and her relationships.
You say that, but we haven't even reached the point of the arc where we get to see them interact, let alone a flashback between the two of them.
Every good one piece villain needs at least one final act of irredeemability before Luffy can pummel them with 100%. Like Luffy finding Nami's room in Arlong Park. Like the Chopper flashback in drum Island. Like Crocodile turning on Miss All Sunday in Alabasta. Like Doflamingo making Rebecca kill Viola.
Just how bad Kaido treats even his own daughter, might be that narrative punch needed to ultimately sell Kaido's defeat.
You're assuming that this buildup hasn't already happened before the two of them even met. Yamato knew about Luffy for years; we've already seen that. We know that a resolution to help a Pirate defeat her father had been present even as far back as when Ace first came to Wano.
Yamato, at very least, has several of the same reasons to fight as the scabbards do, since she was there and witnessed the execution. And she knew Oden as if in the flesh, thanks to his diary. AND I think again, it's pretty obvious that we don't fully understand how bad Kaido is to her yet.
The side plot is us getting to better know Yamato (we already got a connection to Ace through it). And for Yamato to better know Momo, farther giving her reason to oppose her father in the big scene that will surely come and act as a turning point this arc.
But then the very most important piece in this, the final confrontation with Kaido, would suffer. You understand that right? Yamato is primed up to be the very most important and richly symbolic piece of the puzzle in all of the Wano arc. It's like you're complaining that a bullet is useless, despite the gun not even being fired yet.
I mean, fair, she does still have Oda's generic female design as the basis for her face despite the unusually harsh eyebrows, horns, color scheme and outfit.
But on the other hand, I will still suggest that its unique, because she's still the very first character with such a "Pretty" design, being portrayed as such a physical powerhouse.
You cant really be calling her a plot device when she's accomplished so little so far, can you? I mean, she took out a number and prevented a conclusion to Luffy vs Ulti. And she's be trying to keep momonosuke safe.
She's definitely most interesting due to her character and her relationships.
You say that, but we haven't even reached the point of the arc where we get to see them interact, let alone a flashback between the two of them.
Every good one piece villain needs at least one final act of irredeemability before Luffy can pummel them with 100%. Like Luffy finding Nami's room in Arlong Park. Like the Chopper flashback in drum Island. Like Crocodile turning on Miss All Sunday in Alabasta. Like Doflamingo making Rebecca kill Viola.
Just how bad Kaido treats even his own daughter, might be that narrative punch needed to ultimately sell Kaido's defeat.
You're assuming that this buildup hasn't already happened before the two of them even met. Yamato knew about Luffy for years; we've already seen that. We know that a resolution to help a Pirate defeat her father had been present even as far back as when Ace first came to Wano.
Yamato, at very least, has several of the same reasons to fight as the scabbards do, since she was there and witnessed the execution. And she knew Oden as if in the flesh, thanks to his diary. AND I think again, it's pretty obvious that we don't fully understand how bad Kaido is to her yet.
The side plot is us getting to better know Yamato (we already got a connection to Ace through it). And for Yamato to better know Momo, farther giving her reason to oppose her father in the big scene that will surely come and act as a turning point this arc.
But then the very most important piece in this, the final confrontation with Kaido, would suffer. You understand that right? Yamato is primed up to be the very most important and richly symbolic piece of the puzzle in all of the Wano arc. It's like you're complaining that a bullet is useless, despite the gun not even being fired yet.
