Current Events Is Oda leaving Sanji behind?
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I won't say he was left behind. Rather that Oda developed Luffy and Zoro more ever since the timeskip
During the time skip, Luffy and Zoro trained with top tiers. At the time, we couldn't properly see the fruit of that training, but it became visible after the time skip when Zoro could mid diff a top executive placed on the same lvl with another who had Sanji on an edge, with Luffy defeating the boss
There were many expectations of Sanji catching up or overcoming those feats in the following arcs, but outside of minor clashes against people of similar lvl, it took Oda to give him the Raid Suit to accomplish something similar against Pageone
On the other hand, Luffy improved during fights by achieving FS, trained to achieve lvl3 hardening, Zoro clashed / fought multiple SNs, got a new sword and haki training in his evolution, but more importantly is now portrayed by Oden not only to be one of the youngsters who'd help in Kaido's defeat, but also participate in the war that will split the sea in half, which imo stands out even more than simply fighting Kaido, because it's basically Oda's way to highlight Luffy, Zoro as among the leaders of the new generation(with Luffy as the top one) who'd have a big impact in the war to come even after Wano, with Sanji not included in it
And thus seemingly placing Luffy and Zoro as closer to one another, maybe due to us being this close to end of series, with it being the time for them to get closer to their top tier related goals, with Luffy becoming the King of the seas
During the time skip, Luffy and Zoro trained with top tiers. At the time, we couldn't properly see the fruit of that training, but it became visible after the time skip when Zoro could mid diff a top executive placed on the same lvl with another who had Sanji on an edge, with Luffy defeating the boss
There were many expectations of Sanji catching up or overcoming those feats in the following arcs, but outside of minor clashes against people of similar lvl, it took Oda to give him the Raid Suit to accomplish something similar against Pageone
On the other hand, Luffy improved during fights by achieving FS, trained to achieve lvl3 hardening, Zoro clashed / fought multiple SNs, got a new sword and haki training in his evolution, but more importantly is now portrayed by Oden not only to be one of the youngsters who'd help in Kaido's defeat, but also participate in the war that will split the sea in half, which imo stands out even more than simply fighting Kaido, because it's basically Oda's way to highlight Luffy, Zoro as among the leaders of the new generation(with Luffy as the top one) who'd have a big impact in the war to come even after Wano, with Sanji not included in it
And thus seemingly placing Luffy and Zoro as closer to one another, maybe due to us being this close to end of series, with it being the time for them to get closer to their top tier related goals, with Luffy becoming the King of the seas
@nik87 I gave a look around for 3 minutes and already found these 
Plenty of people saw the Emperors vs Supernovas double-spread coming.
@nik87 I gave a look around for 3 minutes and already found these
Killer is getting that same portrayal on the roof though, and he never looked the part, not even pre time skip the way you make it out here as it meaning him and Zoro are meant to be almost equal to Kidd and Luffy.
Them being the First Mates and main source of support for these people that will make the biggest difference still works for the intended portrayal of his chapter, as well as going forward.
I think some of you add that extra bit of spice to an already spicy meal, and run with it when you ought to settle for slightly less in a most unbiased interpretation.
Them being the First Mates and main source of support for these people that will make the biggest difference still works for the intended portrayal of his chapter, as well as going forward.
I think some of you add that extra bit of spice to an already spicy meal, and run with it when you ought to settle for slightly less in a most unbiased interpretation.
This is what i meant
In the first panel, Oden is foreshdowing the primarily figures not only to be the reason of Kaido's defeat if he died, but that they'd be the protagonist of the war that'd split the sea in half
In the second panel, we understand that the ones on the roof are foreshadowed to be among these protagonists, which means that there is a foreshadow that not only they'd have an impact in the Kaido battle, but their impact will follow through the war that'd split the sea in half
As for Killer, Killer's power-level appreciation fluctuates from users to users, but in Oda's mind, he is Kid's partner, so he can make him as close to Kid as he wants. I don't actually think they'd be almost equal to their respective capatins by the way, just like i don't think Luffy and Kid are equals. But i think their portrayal suggest though that they are close enough to give their respective captains a high diff fight, with Luffy leading the group
In the first panel, Oden is foreshdowing the primarily figures not only to be the reason of Kaido's defeat if he died, but that they'd be the protagonist of the war that'd split the sea in half
In the second panel, we understand that the ones on the roof are foreshadowed to be among these protagonists, which means that there is a foreshadow that not only they'd have an impact in the Kaido battle, but their impact will follow through the war that'd split the sea in half
As for Killer, Killer's power-level appreciation fluctuates from users to users, but in Oda's mind, he is Kid's partner, so he can make him as close to Kid as he wants. I don't actually think they'd be almost equal to their respective capatins by the way, just like i don't think Luffy and Kid are equals. But i think their portrayal suggest though that they are close enough to give their respective captains a high diff fight, with Luffy leading the group
This is what i meant
In the first panel, Oden is foreshdowing the primarily figures not only to be the reason of Kaido's defeat if he died, but that they'd be the protagonist of the war that'd split the sea in half
In the second panel, we understand that the ones on the roof are foreshadowed to be among these protagonists, which means that there is a foreshadow that not only they'd have an impact in the Kaido battle, but their impact will follow through the war that'd split the sea in half
As for Killer, Killer's power-level appreciation fluctuates from users to users, but in Oda's mind, he is Kid's partner, so he can make him as close to Kid as he wants. I don't actually think they'd be almost equal to their respective capatins by the way, just like i don't think Luffy and Kid are equals. But i think their portrayal suggest though that they are close enough to give their respective captains a high diff fight, with Luffy leading the group
In the first panel, Oden is foreshdowing the primarily figures not only to be the reason of Kaido's defeat if he died, but that they'd be the protagonist of the war that'd split the sea in half
In the second panel, we understand that the ones on the roof are foreshadowed to be among these protagonists, which means that there is a foreshadow that not only they'd have an impact in the Kaido battle, but their impact will follow through the war that'd split the sea in half
As for Killer, Killer's power-level appreciation fluctuates from users to users, but in Oda's mind, he is Kid's partner, so he can make him as close to Kid as he wants. I don't actually think they'd be almost equal to their respective capatins by the way, just like i don't think Luffy and Kid are equals. But i think their portrayal suggest though that they are close enough to give their respective captains a high diff fight, with Luffy leading the group
Unfortunately i think Law will die, which is part of why Oda did not bother developing his crew as much and giving him a noteworthy subordinate.
So this would confirm Kidd's crew also taking part in the Final war i guess ?
I dont think we have final match ups yet... it will be king vs zoro and queen vs sanji... with Kings bounty maybe 10 or 20 mil higher... and defeating calamity 1 on 1 is way bigger feat... or it might be that sanji goes on p1 and zoro will get orochi... since I dont believe both zoro and sanji are calamity level
Even Pre-TS, Sanji didn't have fights like you imagine, seriously
In His Introduction Arc, he didn't defeat anyone, his Arc was mostly again about his Kindness & learning from Zeff/Luffy/Zoro
In Arlong Park Arc, all Straw Hats fought including Usopp (Nami doesn't count here)
In Little Garden or Whiskey Peak, Sanji was again without Fights
In Alabasta Arc, he fought just like all Straw Hats
In Sky Island, Sanji only finished Satori with help of Luffy & Usopp & after that he didn't have any fight, he actually got off-paneled by Enel very early & wasn't among the last ones standing (This Arc clearly showed difference between Zoro's Role as Main Fighter & Sanji's Role as Hero)
Ennies Lobby Arc, he fought Jabra just like every Straw Hat had a fight
And in Thriller Bark, he fought against Absalom but he was Weak & Nami was the one who finished him
And then he fought against Oars with everyone else
Finally, he fought against Pacifista with all Straw Hats
Conclusion:
Sanji's Only Major Fights were against Kuroobi, Mr. 2, Jabra, Oars & Pacifista & all these fights happened at times when All SHs fought.
In other words, Sanji is no different than rest of Straw Hats when it comes to Major Fights, the only difference is that he saves them more from Fodders & always act as Hero doing very important Tasks (Ennies Lobby Door, Mr Prince, Enel's Ship, Wedding Cake ... etc)
And the same thing applies in Post-TS, Sanji is a Hero who saves his Crew, his Family multiple times ... etc Oda doesn't need to give him Major Fights when other Straw Hats don't have any because the Fighters who can't do anything but fight are Luffy & Zoro (Outside fighting, they are useless) but when all Straw Hats fight, then Sanji will be given a good fight & better opponent than rest of Crew aside from Luffy & Zoro
In His Introduction Arc, he didn't defeat anyone, his Arc was mostly again about his Kindness & learning from Zeff/Luffy/Zoro
In Arlong Park Arc, all Straw Hats fought including Usopp (Nami doesn't count here)
In Little Garden or Whiskey Peak, Sanji was again without Fights
In Alabasta Arc, he fought just like all Straw Hats
In Sky Island, Sanji only finished Satori with help of Luffy & Usopp & after that he didn't have any fight, he actually got off-paneled by Enel very early & wasn't among the last ones standing (This Arc clearly showed difference between Zoro's Role as Main Fighter & Sanji's Role as Hero)
Ennies Lobby Arc, he fought Jabra just like every Straw Hat had a fight
And in Thriller Bark, he fought against Absalom but he was Weak & Nami was the one who finished him
And then he fought against Oars with everyone else
Finally, he fought against Pacifista with all Straw Hats
Conclusion:
Sanji's Only Major Fights were against Kuroobi, Mr. 2, Jabra, Oars & Pacifista & all these fights happened at times when All SHs fought.
In other words, Sanji is no different than rest of Straw Hats when it comes to Major Fights, the only difference is that he saves them more from Fodders & always act as Hero doing very important Tasks (Ennies Lobby Door, Mr Prince, Enel's Ship, Wedding Cake ... etc)
And the same thing applies in Post-TS, Sanji is a Hero who saves his Crew, his Family multiple times ... etc Oda doesn't need to give him Major Fights when other Straw Hats don't have any because the Fighters who can't do anything but fight are Luffy & Zoro (Outside fighting, they are useless) but when all Straw Hats fight, then Sanji will be given a good fight & better opponent than rest of Crew aside from Luffy & Zoro
Tbh whatever Sanji does this arc,he will probably feel left behind by Wano's end cuz' he is not involved into the emperor's fight.
I may have thrashed Queen and King in the chapter discussion thread but after cooling down,i think Oda hasn't gotten them serious yet for whatever reason.
I still think Zoro vs King is going to happen as the final battles are meant to happen in Wano thus triggering a rearrangement of matchups in the upcoming chapters.
Act 3 must end in tragedy,whatever that ends up to be,the alliance must lose in some capacity and since Oda doesn't want to draw Zoro losing/being wrecked,i think the matchups go;
Round 1: Zoro,Luffy,Kid,Law,Killer vs Kaido and Big Mom
Sanji vs Black Maria
Round 2: Luffy,Kid,Law vs Kaido
Zoro vs King
Sanji vs Queen
Killer vs Smoothie
Marco vs Big Mom
Final Round :
Luffy,Kid,Law,Zoro, Killer + 4 shadows vs Kaido
I may have thrashed Queen and King in the chapter discussion thread but after cooling down,i think Oda hasn't gotten them serious yet for whatever reason.
I still think Zoro vs King is going to happen as the final battles are meant to happen in Wano thus triggering a rearrangement of matchups in the upcoming chapters.
Act 3 must end in tragedy,whatever that ends up to be,the alliance must lose in some capacity and since Oda doesn't want to draw Zoro losing/being wrecked,i think the matchups go;
Round 1: Zoro,Luffy,Kid,Law,Killer vs Kaido and Big Mom
Sanji vs Black Maria
Round 2: Luffy,Kid,Law vs Kaido
Zoro vs King
Sanji vs Queen
Killer vs Smoothie
Marco vs Big Mom
Final Round :
Luffy,Kid,Law,Zoro, Killer + 4 shadows vs Kaido
fights opponents on par or very close to Zoro's ones (Kuroobi is even stronger), clashes with saga bosses and with commanders and has had, like Luffy, two long flashback.
Yeah, he is like Chopper
Yeah, he is like Chopper
I only remember Jabra tbh
Kuroobi & Hatchan & Chew were all comparable, so they also fought someone similar to Usopp's Opponent
Aside from these 2, name me another Comparable Opponent to Zoro's? Just one
He is not being left behind at all in my opinion.
His natural role is blooming and even in the past it commenced, this is nothing but Sanji's nature being disclosed by the author. He was never meant to become a powerhouse to begin with. Despises training like a beast (I love to say pack animal), doesn't possess Luffy's devil fruit hax, extensively relies on tools that are not as potent as one may figure.
And you know what? It's not a problem. Sanji fans need to accept that power levels are not his thing. Yes he craves for the power to protect women and girls and what it needs to one day unravel the wonders of the All Blue, but does he seriously need to become admiral level in order to attain all of this? The answer is allegedly no.
His natural role is blooming and even in the past it commenced, this is nothing but Sanji's nature being disclosed by the author. He was never meant to become a powerhouse to begin with. Despises training like a beast (I love to say pack animal), doesn't possess Luffy's devil fruit hax, extensively relies on tools that are not as potent as one may figure.
And you know what? It's not a problem. Sanji fans need to accept that power levels are not his thing. Yes he craves for the power to protect women and girls and what it needs to one day unravel the wonders of the All Blue, but does he seriously need to become admiral level in order to attain all of this? The answer is allegedly no.
Most Underrated message in this Thread..!! Finally someone who gets it.
No, Oda isn't leaving Sanji behind. WCI was an arc dedicated to him but it was to show how much of a human he is despite him having such Tragic and Inhuman past. But still Oda showed us how he is capable of taking out veteran lvl characters like Oven, out CoO-ing man with the FS. In Wano he used RS only to end the fight soon and not spend much time and energy.
No, Oda isn't leaving Sanji behind. WCI was an arc dedicated to him but it was to show how much of a human he is despite him having such Tragic and Inhuman past. But still Oda showed us how he is capable of taking out veteran lvl characters like Oven, out CoO-ing man with the FS. In Wano he used RS only to end the fight soon and not spend much time and energy.