Character Discussion "Kaido, the strongest pirate" - how valid are characters statements?
titles are nothing but how the world sees a man ....
so people calling Kaido is canon as it can get
with Whitebeard ... we were 100% sure that during his Prime he was stronger than any man alive
with Kaidowe should be 99% sure that during his Prime he was stronger than any man alive
point is ....
yes ... people can deny as I myself did before
but
as of now ... with all of this godly feats and hype ... title is just an over kill ....
even though we can't be 100% sure Kaido is truly the strongest
Kaido have better claim than any man alive to that throne
and denying that at this point of story is sad
even if you disagree with the statement ... which tbh I do
so people calling Kaido is canon as it can get
with Whitebeard ... we were 100% sure that during his Prime he was stronger than any man alive
with Kaidowe should be 99% sure that during his Prime he was stronger than any man alive
point is ....
yes ... people can deny as I myself did before
but
as of now ... with all of this godly feats and hype ... title is just an over kill ....
even though we can't be 100% sure Kaido is truly the strongest
Kaido have better claim than any man alive to that throne
and denying that at this point of story is sad
even if you disagree with the statement ... which tbh I do
I'm still of the idea that he is recognized by OP world as the strongest living pirate and that is confirmed pretty much by WG giving him the highest bounty among living pirates (at least as far as we know). Yet most likely later we will know that Shanks is stronger and that BB become stronger than him as well (while BM is just another old tool who will retire with Kaido after Luffy starts to leave their level in the dust). Yet if you want to contest what Kidd said as a whole you also have to contest the title Oda gave to the chapter: "the island of the strongest".
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This case isn't just abaout a character statement but quite a good amount of clues supporting this portrayal, from SBS to magazines, to in-verse narrations and dialogues, to Kaido's own nature as an oni (which is literally the embodiment of unparalleled strength for a Japanese reader).
There are still some shades, though. Being the strongest pirate is far different from being the strongest creature, and those two are descriptions given to Kaido: the first one leaves the Government and Revolutionary Army's top tiers out, while the second one, albeit using a word referring to all living things, was immediately nuanced by Nami as she stressed Kaido's inhuman nature instead of his strength (this, including to other statements like Linlin's in Whole Cake, could point to the WSC title being just a narrative tool to emphasize Kaido's strange race). We also have statements about Big Mom being as strong as him, and the very ongoing nature of this world allows someone like Blackbeard to be the actual current strongest yet not addressed as such as he isn't established enough.
My opinion? If Oda is trying to portray Kaido as the strongest pirate or even being in the current point of the story I will believe him; but if it ends up being some kind of narrative resource to hype him up in the context of the traditional Japanese tale and the demonic ogre that seems unbeatable only for it to be destroyed as the arc goes on, I will buy it too.
There are still some shades, though. Being the strongest pirate is far different from being the strongest creature, and those two are descriptions given to Kaido: the first one leaves the Government and Revolutionary Army's top tiers out, while the second one, albeit using a word referring to all living things, was immediately nuanced by Nami as she stressed Kaido's inhuman nature instead of his strength (this, including to other statements like Linlin's in Whole Cake, could point to the WSC title being just a narrative tool to emphasize Kaido's strange race). We also have statements about Big Mom being as strong as him, and the very ongoing nature of this world allows someone like Blackbeard to be the actual current strongest yet not addressed as such as he isn't established enough.
My opinion? If Oda is trying to portray Kaido as the strongest pirate or even being in the current point of the story I will believe him; but if it ends up being some kind of narrative resource to hype him up in the context of the traditional Japanese tale and the demonic ogre that seems unbeatable only for it to be destroyed as the arc goes on, I will buy it too.
you can't prove the this that he is at "destorying the world power"
and you can't prove Teach can't get any stronger
you are only using a empty "if" to deny as much as you can ....
mate ... Kaido > Mihawk , Kaido > Shanks .... until more data .... at this point denying this is just not logical
I get it ... you want Zoro fight the strongest man alive or things like that .... but you can't force your agenda to real story
Mihawk have nothing to make him comparable to Kaido ....
not enough feat
not enough hype
not anything
world sees him as strongest living man WHEN Whitebeard himself was alive ... who is Mihawk to deny that?
accept the reality .... and fight back when Mihawk have more screen time ....
and you can't prove Teach can't get any stronger
you are only using a empty "if" to deny as much as you can ....
mate ... Kaido > Mihawk , Kaido > Shanks .... until more data .... at this point denying this is just not logical
I get it ... you want Zoro fight the strongest man alive or things like that .... but you can't force your agenda to real story
Mihawk have nothing to make him comparable to Kaido ....
not enough feat
not enough hype
not anything
world sees him as strongest living man WHEN Whitebeard himself was alive ... who is Mihawk to deny that?
accept the reality .... and fight back when Mihawk have more screen time ....