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How likely is ZKK?


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Herrera95

Kaido wants do die. No one wants to fulfill his dream. So Kaido will live forever. Would be better if he is just send to Impel Down and never escape.
 
1060 is too far
Because last Volume was Volume 98 & Cover was about Nine Scabbards
Volume 99 will obviously have a Cover about Worst Generation
And Volume 100 which is a Special Number/Milestone will definitely be about Straw Hats & ends with Chapter 1013

For remaining Volumes, we should have one about Beasts Pirates, one about Kaido & BM (If we get their Flashback), one about Final Round (Showing Kaido vs Luffy and/or Zoro + BM/Kid + Orochi & Momo/Hiyori)

So remaining Volumes for this Raid (After Volume 100) are imo 3, meaning it should end around Chapters 1040
Could be even less if Oda decides to rush things, so Chapter 1060 is a stretch

Volume 99 ---> We had Drake Chapter, Hawkins Prediction, Zoro vs Apoo, Ace talking about Supernova & Roof Battle ---> WG Volume
Volume 100 ---> Robin/Brook vs BM, Sanji Moment, Chopper vs Queen, Franky Victory Attack, Luffy/Zoro vs Kaido ---> SHs Volume
Volume 101 ---> We have Conclusion of Flying Six Fights & Focus on King/Queen, BM Fight & Kaido vs Yamato ---> Villains Volume
Volume 102 ---> We might have Kaido Flashback, Start of Final Round, Flower Capital in Danger ---> Kaido/BM & Wano Volume
Volume 103 ---> Conclusion of Final Round, Death of Kaido, Conclusion of BM Story, Onigashima Stopped ---> Raid Ending Volume

So imo ZKK should happen in Volume 103 or at Start of Volume 104 (At most but doubt it)
Meaning it should happen between Chapters 1035 & 1045
This was my original perspective as well. But don't underestimate Oda's ability to extend arcs. Especially given that warlord fights are 30 chapters and commander fights have been 20 chapters Post time skip.
Only natural for yonko fights to be longer
 
Kaido wants do die. No one wants to fulfill his dream. So Kaido will live forever. Would be better if he is just send to Impel Down and never escape.
Kaido wants to die a Grand and Goated death.
He is stuck in Wano which is hid from the world.

Kaido envies Oden and WB's death.
They died with the world and their country watching as legends.

Kaido dying to the new generation in an enclosed country doesn't add to his legend. It starts Zoro's.
 
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Herrera95

Kaido wants to die a Grand and Goated death.
He is stuck in Wano which is hid from the world.

Kaido envies Oden and WB's death.
They died with the world and their country watching as legends.

Kaido dying to the new generation in an enclosed country doesn't add to his legend. It starts Zoro's.
No dude. Kaido already said he would be fine by dying to Scabbards if they were stronger. Same to Luffy. And Zoro too.
 

Finalbeta

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1060 looks a bit too ahead for me, but if I had to put my money I would follow the pattern regarding the SH specific related chapters and catalogue it as probably the last one. So in other words I'm more inclined to affirm it could occur around 1040~ or so.
 
No dude. Kaido already said he would be fine by dying to Scabbards if they were stronger. Same to Luffy. And Zoro too.
Doffy said he's fine with anything so long as it destroys the world the celestial dragons rule.

Thats exactly what the WIll of D and what Luffy does.

Kaido is the same. Kaido just got scarred and was unfazed. He still has not felt the samurai that he thinks will surpass Oden.
 
This was my original perspective as well. But don't underestimate Oda's ability to extend arcs. Especially given that warlord fights are 30 chapters and commander fights have been 20 chapters Post time skip.
Only natural for yonko fights to be longer
I have a better Idea then.
Oda always end the Volume's Story in Chapter before Last & then switch to other Events in Last Chapter

For example:
Volume 98 ---> Chapter 993 was End of Dragon Kaido vs Scabbards & Chapter 994 Switched back to Interior Events
Volume 99 ---> Chapter 1003 was End of Dragon Kaido vs Supernova & Chapter 995 Switched back to Interior Events
Volume 100 ---> Chapter 1013 was End of Kaido vs Luffy & Chapter 1014 will obviously be about Main Hall again

So imo Chapter 1023 will be End of BM Fight or Hall Fight in General (This is Beasts Pirates Volume) & then Chapter 1024 will be a Tease for Volume 102 which is Last Round against Kaido & in this Volume, we witness End of Kaido Fight in Chapter 1033 & End of Raid in Chapter 1034

And this is no Coincidence, Chapter 923 was also about End of Luffy vs Kaido Round 01 & Chapter 933 was End of Orochi's Banquet Fight & Chapter 943 was Yasuie Death & Chapter 953 was End of Bridge Fight against Onimaru & Chapter 963 was Oden vs WB & Chapter 973 was End of Oden's Flashback & Chapter 983 was when the Party was over & Kaido appeared to announce New Onigashima Project

It's obvious that Oda ends things/Sub-Plots/Fights in Chapters before Last of each Volume so he can switch to new stuff in Last Chapter of Volume which serves as a Tease of next Volume

This is why i believe Raid will End in Chapter 1033 !!!

Volume 98 was about Scabbards & Start of Raid
Volume 99 was about Worst Generation
Volume 100 was about Straw Hats
Volume 101 is gonna be about Beasts Pirates & their Defeat except Kaido & maybe BM
Volume 102 is Conclusion of Raid
 
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Herrera95

Doffy said he's fine with anything so long as it destroys the world the celestial dragons rule.

Thats exactly what the WIll of D and what Luffy does.

Kaido is the same. Kaido just got scarred and was unfazed. He still has not felt the samurai that he thinks will surpass Oden.
So why the hell Doffy is keeping Mariejoia secret with him? Why he helped Marines to defeat WB? Like Law said, he and the big guys did nothing in those 2 years of timeskip. So Doffy is not really doing anything to destroy the world and celestial dragons.

And this goes only by Doffy himself. Law doesn't want anything. He was ready to die if Doffy got murderer by Kaido after. Luffy just wants to be world's most free man. Nothing related to destroy world or celestial dragons.
 
I have a better Idea then.
Oda always end the Volume's Story in Chapter before Last & then switch to other Events in Last Chapter

For example:
Volume 98 ---> Chapter 993 was End of Dragon Kaido vs Scabbards & Chapter 994 Switched back to Interior Events
Volume 99 ---> Chapter 1003 was End of Dragon Kaido vs Supernova & Chapter 995 Switched back to Interior Events
Volume 100 ---> Chapter 1013 was End of Kaido vs Luffy & Chapter 1014 will obviously be about Main Hall again

So imo Chapter 1023 will be End of BM Fight or Hall Fight in General (This is Beasts Pirates Volume) & then Chapter 1024 will be a Tease for Volume 102 which is Last Round against Kaido & in this Volume, we witness End of Kaido Fight in Chapter 1033 & End of Raid in Chapter 1034

And this is no Coincidence, Chapter 923 was also about End of Luffy vs Kaido Round 01 & Chapter 933 was End of Orochi's Banquet Fight & Chapter 943 was Yasuie Death & Chapter 953 was End of Bridge Fight against Onimaru & Chapter 963 was Oden vs WB & Chapter 973 was End of Oden's Flashback & Chapter 983 was when the Party was over & Kaido appeared to announce New Onigashima Project

It's obvious that Oda ends things/Sub-Plots/Fights in Chapters before Last of each Volume so he can switch to new stuff in Last Chapter of Volume which serves as a Tease of next Volume

This is why i believe Raid will End in Chapter 1033 !!!

Volume 98 was about Scabbards & Start of Raid
Volume 99 was about Worst Generation
Volume 100 was about Straw Hats
Volume 101 is gonna be about Beasts Pirates & their Defeat except Kaido & maybe BM
Volume 102 is Conclusion of Raid
:zorothink:Solid.
But do you believe the interior fights will end before or after Kaido death?

So why the hell Doffy is keeping Mariejoia secret with him? Why he helped Marines to defeat WB? Like Law said, he and the big guys did nothing in those 2 years of timeskip. So Doffy is not really doing anything to destroy the world and celestial dragons.

And this goes only by Doffy himself. Law doesn't want anything. He was ready to die if Doffy got murderer by Kaido after. Luffy just wants to be world's most free man. Nothing related to destroy world or celestial dragons.
Damn you really didn't understand post time skip nor the WIll of D.....

Marygeoise secret is for Doffy to have leverage (blackmail).
He attacked both Marines and Pirates in MF. He didn't give a shit about the War.
He went there to stand gain, he even tried to recruit Crocodile.

Doffy is feeding smiles to build Kaido's army.
Kaido is building his army to create a massive war.
Doffy is king of the Underground.
Doffy sells people, drugs, chemical warfare weapons, smiles, and armament to countries, crews, and people that want it.


As for the WIll of D part............
  1. Xebec planned to become King of the World.
  2. Garp and Roger fought in God valley which wiped out a country
  3. Roger created the Great Pirate Era which plunged the world into piracy
  4. Luffy is set out to find the One Piece which will shake the world and rewrite history.
  5. Ace's mere existence led to the Paramount War.
  6. Law broke the Gears that would've unleashed Kaido and Big Mom onto the world whilst searching for Ancient Weapons [New Onigashima]
  7. Luffy broke into and destroyed 2 MAJOR Government Headquarters Enies loby and Impel Down then infiltrated Marineford.
  8. Luffy takes down 3 Warlords (one of the 3 Great Powers) and allies with numerous Warlords.
The Will of D is chaos incarnated.
 
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:zorothink:Solid.
But do you believe the interior fights will end before or after Kaido death?
It's difficult to guess because logically the Strongest Creature shall fall last but it's also possible Oda will keep them after Kaido so that they all witness the Death of such Creature

However in my opinion, Death of Yonko & Kaido is something of a very Major Event (You could say it's biggest Scene in OP because contrary to WB's Death, this one is gonna be at the hands of SHs & not a Third Party in an Arc where SHs were absent)

This is why i believe his Death should happen when everyone done fighting & only Kaido is left to perfectly mirror Ryuma's Story & also let everyone witness his Death without being distracted or occupied

It's also related to Kaido's Comment when he started fighting Scabbards saying that Pirates will abandon him, so i believe it's Beasts Pirates who are gonna abandon Kaido once they see his Defeat & that is when Kaido recovers from his First Defeat & says he will kill everyone (Because if you think about it, Kaido should be killed when he is the one attacking Onigashima with his own Attacks, not because he is dropping Onigashima on them) so logically Onigashima & Beasts Pirates will be stopped before Kaido & that is why he decides to burn everything

This is also part of Oda's Scenarios just like he made Doflamingo start killing People himself aside from Parasite & Kuro attacking randomly & Enel attacking everyone with Lightning aside from Raigo & Moriah taking the Shadows of all Zombies & Caesar & BM .... etc

So imo Flying Six & Calamities Defeated & then Kaido Defeat & then Beasts Pirates giving up & then Kaido waking up shortly after & starting his Rampage & then Kaido's Death in the Capital as everyone witness it
 

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Credit to @Mehmet on Discord. He figured out all of this, I'm just putting it together.

If you care about One Piece numerology, this could blow your minds.

OP Color Spread 929: Zoro is carrying a sickle/scythe weapon. And Nami is carrying a machine/Gatling Gun pointing it in front of Zoro (similar to that of Queen).
  • Chapter 937/8: Zoro defeats Kamazou. [8/9 Chapters Later].
  • Chapter 997: Zoro destroys Queens Gatling Gun. [68 Chapters Later].
OP Color Spread Chapter 937: Zoro has a map with the Kanji for Enma.
  • Chapter 955: Zoro receives Enma from Hiyori and tests it out. [18 Chapters Later]
OP Chapter 992 Color Spread: Zoro is eating a bowl of Ramen on it. Next to him we see 3 empty bowls. Zoro is eating the fourth bowl which has the Seiryu Dragon painted on it.
  • Chapter 1001: Zoro attacks Kaido with/without haki and does nothing. [Hit #] [Bowl 1]
  • Chapter 1003: Zoro attacks Kaido with Kalasutra Dragon Twister and it makes him Bleed. [Hit #2] [Bowl 2]
  • Chapter 1010: Zoro attacks Kaido with Asura and it scars him. [Hit #3] [Bowl 3]
  • Chapter 10XX: Zoro beheads Kaido. 4 in Japanese is Shi which means death, coincidentally the bowl Zoro is last eating from. [Final Lethal Hit #4] [Bowl 4]
But wait, there's more. Now to dig a bit deeper.
  • Chapter 1000: Zoro meets Kaido for first time. [8 Chapters since 992]
  • Chapter 1001: Zoro first attempts to cut Kaido. [9 Chapters since 992]
  • Chapter 1010: Zoro awakens CoC and permanently scars Kaido. [18 Chapters since 992]
The trend is 8 or 9, 18, 68 chapters for these events to occur after the Color Spreads are released. In essence, manga events DO in fact correlate with previous Color Spreads.

Theory is: A hypothetical case can be made for Zoro killing Kaido in chapter 992+68 = 1060. Zoro will behead Kaido during Dawn (as the sun rises) on Chapter 1060, unless new information is presented.

If you guys have anything else to add to this theory, it would be much appreciated.
If you have anything to debunk this with, it would be much appreciated.

Again ALL CREDIT IS TO @MEHMET ON DISCORD

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:finally:
Sorry, I think numerology arguments have very low epistemic value and are particularly bad for trying to predict events.

They are rife with survivorship bias; you mostly learn about the numerical patterns that bore out successfully, and not the many others that failed or amounted to nothing.

I'll go out on a limb and bet that if ZKK does happen, it will not be in Chapter 1060.
 
Sorry, I think numerology arguments have very low epistemic value and are particularly bad for trying to predict events.

They are rife with survivorship bias; you mostly learn about the numerical patterns that bore out successfully, and not the many others that failed or amounted to nothing.

I'll go out on a limb and bet that if ZKK does happen, it will not be in Chapter 1060.
too many big words, can u simplify
 
the fact that the bowl zoro is eating from has a blue dragon on it + the 4th bowl is being eaten+ 4 in japanese = "death" , i would say the probability of all of this stuff being random is about 0.0000000000000001 percent, after seeing this if ZKK-COINS existed i would buy them all
 
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