NBA discussion thread

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Kobe is on par or greater than MJ in terms of defense. He made a total 12 all defense teams, more than any other guard.

Kawhi has been a great defender, but he couldnt challenge Lebron or KD with an average offense. He had to prove on the offensive end.

correct
but greater?

you must be stopped.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

correct
but greater?

you must be stopped.

All defense: Kobe's 12 > MJ's 9

MJ has one dpoy award though :rolleyes:

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

All defense: Kobe's 12 > MJ's 9

MJ has one dpoy award though :rolleyes:

:smithnie:

 

[Haoshoku]

All defense: Kobe's 12 > MJ's 9

MJ has one dpoy award though :rolleyes:

Played more seasons, but dpoy gives him the nod. Kawhi is a better defender than both tho

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Played more seasons, but dpoy gives him the nod. Kawhi is a better defender than both tho

 

[ZenZu]

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kd is a better offensive threat than harden when he wants to

Harden is a vastly better playmaker and ballhandler than KD. This quite comfortably places him as the superior offensive player.

Scoring is more debatable, you can argue scoring comes easier to KD, legit unstoppable 1v1, virtually a 7 foot marksman there is no defender who can contest his shot.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Harden is a vastly better playmaker and ballhandler than KD. This quite comfortably places him as the superior offensive player.

Scoring is more debatable, you can argue scoring comes easier to KD, legit unstoppable 1v1, virtually a 7 foot marksman there is no defender who can contest his shot.

correct
harden can improve overall team offense
kd can be solely more lethal than harden can.

 

[ZenZu]

correct
harden can improve overall team offense
kd can be solely more lethal than harden can.

I agree, and yet it's scary to me how debatable it's become even when it comes to 1v1, since Harden is essentially an iso monster.

Playoffs are more about multiple defenders and schemes being thrown at you, so if he struggles, it's not necessarily due to a lack of 1v1 skill.

 

[Noyman]

It’s wild how y’all really don’t know wtf y’all talking bout Lmfao.

Lemme ask y’all this, gimme y’all top 6 players right na

My top 6 (minus Steph and KD):
1. LeBron
2. Kawhi
3. Harden
4. Giannis
5. AD
6. KAT

Had Kawhi #1 after the postseason with LeBron missing the playoffs and suffering his 1st long-term injury but right now LeBron is proving he's still the same and I still have to respect what Kawhi did last postseason to put him at #2.

I have Harden > Giannis slightly but I wouldn't argue Giannis over him. I watch the Rockets almost every game and Harden can beat you in every way offensively (arguably the best offensive player ever) whereas you still have to question Giannis' shooting. He's better defensively but Harden is better on defense than what most people think.

KAT over Luka is probably a little controversial and I don't have an argument this season 'cause Luka is playing better but I'd like to see more of Luka before I really put him in the top 5. For other players, I just see KAT being more talented than any of them. You can't find a more versatile scoring big than him who's shooting 40% on 3s on 9 attempts per game! He's also 50/40/80 in the last 3 years. Dude needs a better supporting cast to go over the hump.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Giannis
Leonard/Harden
Doncic
Lebron
Westbrook
AD

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Giannis
Leonard/Harden
Doncic
Lebron
Westbrook
AD

west who??

 

[OmegaPsyche]

west who??

WestBreakerOfClippersDefense

 

[Noyman]

Harden
Giannis
Westbrook
Lebron
Ad
Kawhi

Giannis
Leonard/Harden
Doncic
Lebron
Westbrook
AD

I'm not arguing this point.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

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WestBreakerOfClippersDefense

westbrick you mean
23 percent from three
bloke shoots worse than giannis and 42 % from the field lmao.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

I'm not arguing this point.

Give him a break, he's playing with Harden, ofc his numbers dropped. When Harden let's him off da leash though he goes bonkers.

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westbrick you mean
23 percent from three
bloke shoots worse than giannis and 42 % from the field lmao.

Eric Gordon is coming back to fix the shooting problem.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Give him a break, he's playing with Harden, ofc his numbers dropped. When Harden let's him off da leash though he goes bonkers.

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Eric Gordon is coming back to fix the shooting problem.

EG is solid for sure.

 

[Jiihad]

Give him a break, he's playing with Harden, ofc his numbers dropped. When Harden let's him off da leash though he goes bonkers.

LMFAO, no. That Bih jus can’t shoot lol, his last 3 years than man shot like 41% from tha field. Buddy jumper jus broke

 

[Noyman]

Give him a break, he's playing with Harden, ofc his numbers dropped. When Harden let's him off da leash though he goes bonkers.

No, I love it. I don't want to argue it because he plays for my team and I appreciate people who still think he's top 5. I don't think his 40 point game is his tipping point yet. He's gotten more efficient recently. (y)

 

[Relapse]

Golden State.

Golden to fire a coach or two.

 

[Noyman]

Damn, T-Wolves lost to the Dubs (tho minus KAT).