Current Events Oda poor writing to portray Kid and Law the "Victory"!! Did they really beat Big Mom? Analyze!
Honestly I wish Oda stuck to his initial plans of writing Doffy into Wano & gone for Joker v Law instead of Big Mom v Law & X. Would’ve been a lot more organic & better direction for Law’s character in terms of his motivations & end goals imo. Dude was never really interested in the PK title but Oda forced it regardless.
Reason why that fight was so shite in my opinion was coz Oda capped both Kidd & Law & didn’t really have a concrete direction he was gonna go with them after it. At the very least with regards to Kidd. Was never really gonna write then as legit contenders of the ONE PIECE. He just ran with the leaders of the new gen ting for vibes & the evidence of that is his treatment of Kidd post Wano. Could’ve easily written them to to be strong enough to beat Lilin in a less contrived manner if he wanted to. I mean Kidd was also on Udon with Luffy, what was stopping him from writing both learning Ryou for example? Rather he decided to nerf Linlin & have her lose in a contentious manner instead. Which just ended up wasting what could’ve been a very interesting Yonko
Reason why that fight was so shite in my opinion was coz Oda capped both Kidd & Law & didn’t really have a concrete direction he was gonna go with them after it. At the very least with regards to Kidd. Was never really gonna write then as legit contenders of the ONE PIECE. He just ran with the leaders of the new gen ting for vibes & the evidence of that is his treatment of Kidd post Wano. Could’ve easily written them to to be strong enough to beat Lilin in a less contrived manner if he wanted to. I mean Kidd was also on Udon with Luffy, what was stopping him from writing both learning Ryou for example? Rather he decided to nerf Linlin & have her lose in a contentious manner instead. Which just ended up wasting what could’ve been a very interesting Yonko
Biggest problem for me was in wano that the plotline of zoro clearly suffered from this in wano, i imagine the time (and flimsy reasoning) to have law and kid in wano and them doing stuff had to come somwhere
It was a real defeat because Kidd n Law made the opening for big mom to be swept away in the environment that they were in. For someone of big mom to be taken out like that she’d have to face guys who can actually fucks with her , Kidd/Law did exactly that making it enough, it was a real defeat, big mom is defeated by eustass Kidd and law.
First, the yonko saga outline was clearly a thing going into the the ts (oda even specified his reasoning for the TS when the TS back than happened why he doing one in interviews, that Luffy needed to grow to take on yonkos, meaning everything asap from the TS will be tackling the yonkos). And this coincides with the "i had thought kid was gonna be more important but law was more popular" comments. Meaning his orginal plan clearly changed to some extend
Second thats why i said "doing stuff". Law being in wano doesnt mean the stuff he was doing initially was different (for example fighting against doffy if he was there which is a exorbitant smaller plot and time thread than big mom)
Second thats why i said "doing stuff". Law being in wano doesnt mean the stuff he was doing initially was different (for example fighting against doffy if he was there which is a exorbitant smaller plot and time thread than big mom)
It was a legit victory for kidd and law it was just situational. Bm lost because of her character flaws. She prideful arrogant and dumb which is a terrible mix. He pride had her refuse to acknowledge kidd and law as real threats and use he best abilities to kill them. Her arrogance lead her to tanking kidds last attack for no reason when she could have dodged or attacked him and stopped him from doing the attack. Lastly she was dumb as even though she was coming back up she didn't use coo just to make sure the path she was taking would collapse. If she had just activated her coo she would have sensed the bombs. Even then she could have made a rock homie and rode it back up to the top faster than climbing and would have given another home against kidd and law. Oda used pis on bm but it was already in her character. She lost solely because she refused to acknowledge kidd and law and wanted to keep treating them like brats and not serious threats that could kill her. If she spammed her homies and used adcoc in her bigger mom form without just tanking attacks or getting distracted she would have won. But narrative had to make her lose as if she did win everyone dies. She'd go up and help kaido kill luffy and then they'd destroy the rest of the alliance as only Yamato could fight at thier level.
Deranged obsessive people on here have nothing better to do than continuously necro so many threads about Kidd. Are you guys really that bored or desperate for attention?
For reference, I've noticed multiple old threads of him suddely being necro'd atm like they were not that long ago, like some weird ass ritual every now and again on here.
For reference, I've noticed multiple old threads of him suddely being necro'd atm like they were not that long ago, like some weird ass ritual every now and again on here.
In the first place the concept of the Supernova was a marketing ploy that was forced on Oda by his editors to spice tings up a bit, so he's had to kinda somehow write them around his original ideas, so it's somewhat understandable that he hit a road block with what to do with them for the final stretch of the series. Prolly wanted to give them some sort last hurrah before taking them out of the PK race hence the rooftop flex and the Law/Kidd v Lilin fight. Still though I'd have rather he just leave Joker in as powerful ally for Kaido on Wano and just progressed Law's story organically with that and with that he could've made Joker as strong as he wanted and also given Law an opponent that he had a chance of beating with a bit of struggle. This would've have fit perfectly with his D plot line given Doffy is a tenryubitto and after that he could've just made Law accompany the SHs as an ally or Oden type "traveller" figure to help achieve his dream as let's face it Law has no chance uncovering the mystery of the Ds with just his current crew. Then with Kidd, he could've had him clash with Shanks off panel, maybe given us a Teach v Ace kinda 1 chapter encounter to have him organically fall to Shanks.
Fair enough on Zoro ^^. I'd argue he got a lot of good focus on Wano regardless but Oda instead of just fight focus, could've written the shit he gave us in the SBS about Zoro's family into the plot and given Zoro more plot focus. Maybe even made Orochi a strong character that was Kaido's strongest subordinate instead of King who was just a strong opponent.
Tbf to Oda though, if I consider the possibility that he might be rushing a bit to finish the story then, albeit controversial and unsatisfying he's been able to get easily get rid of one troublesome Yonko and thus doesn't need to write a separate story for Linlin falling and also been able to remove Law and Kidd from the story or rather more specifically the PK plot line whilst giving them some hype justifying the narrative written around them as promising captains of the new gen on Wano.
Fair enough on Zoro ^^. I'd argue he got a lot of good focus on Wano regardless but Oda instead of just fight focus, could've written the shit he gave us in the SBS about Zoro's family into the plot and given Zoro more plot focus. Maybe even made Orochi a strong character that was Kaido's strongest subordinate instead of King who was just a strong opponent.
Tbf to Oda though, if I consider the possibility that he might be rushing a bit to finish the story then, albeit controversial and unsatisfying he's been able to get easily get rid of one troublesome Yonko and thus doesn't need to write a separate story for Linlin falling and also been able to remove Law and Kidd from the story or rather more specifically the PK plot line whilst giving them some hype justifying the narrative written around them as promising captains of the new gen on Wano.
I dont think the story rush arguments has any merit tho given we read Egghead now and Elbaf
In egghead you can make the argument that is unusual (he did the cut away to other locations mid arc instead end of the arc) but Elbaf is from the pacing structured like every other arc imo. Like the last one being a classical only set up chapter for example
In egghead you can make the argument that is unusual (he did the cut away to other locations mid arc instead end of the arc) but Elbaf is from the pacing structured like every other arc imo. Like the last one being a classical only set up chapter for example
Egghead was a necessary arc that Oda couldn't have skipped though, as we had to meet Vegapunk at some point who btw gave us a lot of useful information for the climax of the story. Hell I'd argue the way he wrote all of the Gorosei into Egghead was somewhat forced/rushed.
Elbaf again was an arc that's been highly anticipated since pre-ts and we are also getting a lot of critical end game stuff and although we disagree on this I actually think Elbaf is moving pretty fast, doesn't really feel like Oda's dragging his feet hence prolly why the arc has been so exciting so far ^^. Regardless of the number of arcs etc I'd say the plot has been moving pretty quickly since Wano.
Elbaf again was an arc that's been highly anticipated since pre-ts and we are also getting a lot of critical end game stuff and although we disagree on this I actually think Elbaf is moving pretty fast, doesn't really feel like Oda's dragging his feet hence prolly why the arc has been so exciting so far ^^. Regardless of the number of arcs etc I'd say the plot has been moving pretty quickly since Wano.
Big Mom is not going down to an attack that took 0.0001% of Kaido's HP bar by hitting him in one of his most vital organs except in Lowtard Piece, aka your fanfic.
It has been stated to be a thing, what the fuck do you think "on paper" means to believe that stated weaknesses no longer exist lmfao?
Midd/Low literally cannot do shit to Big Mom without massive plot armor and outside interference, it is a canonical fact which is why Oda wrote it the way that he did, and exactly why a bum like Midd got 0.5 shot and Low got Kurozu diffed by Yonko when they didn't have all that plot armor and conveniences.
It has been stated to be a thing, what the fuck do you think "on paper" means to believe that stated weaknesses no longer exist lmfao?
Midd/Low literally cannot do shit to Big Mom without massive plot armor and outside interference, it is a canonical fact which is why Oda wrote it the way that he did, and exactly why a bum like Midd got 0.5 shot and Low got Kurozu diffed by Yonko when they didn't have all that plot armor and conveniences.
Because that “weakness” quickly got disproven in the chapters it was introduced in dumbass.
We have yet to see a character block amputate with haki alone. So why wouldn’t Law be capable of chopping BM then?
Retards like you can’t see “haki” is the plot armor against Law. It’s dubious and unmeasurable
We have yet to see a character block amputate with haki alone. So why wouldn’t Law be capable of chopping BM then?
Retards like you can’t see “haki” is the plot armor against Law. It’s dubious and unmeasurable