General & Others Oda's biggest mistake

#45
Creating this series in general, and acting like he had everything figured out from the start. Arguably, he STILL has no idea how he’s gonna stick the landing, and boy, if he doesn’t...
Yeah, after hearing that Oda changes some things when someone predicts whats gonna happen so he can have it unpredictable is annoying. You shouldnt have to change a plot point!
 

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#46
Yeah, after hearing that Oda changes some things when someone predicts whats gonna happen so he can have it unpredictable is annoying. You shouldnt have to change a plot point!
Honestly, it explains a lot of the weirder choices he’s made over the years...who cares if someone on the Internet figures it out?? You should still be able to tell your story better than online theorists!!
 
#47
Almost basically this.
The stupidest decision he made was limiting where the Main Cast can go and see and explore. That and he doesn't even capitalize on Boat/ship battles. It's a GD Mother Fucking Pirate Manga, where's the looting etc... even from other pirates damn it! lol The series is so watered down.
Oda said that he had an idea for ship battles but he realized that it would be ridiculous considering that there are characters that destroy them easily.

At this point of story this is simply something Oda will never be able to fix.

Yeah preTS had real piracy moments unlike Post TS.
 
#50
Creating this series in general, and acting like he had everything figured out from the start. Arguably, he STILL has no idea how he’s gonna stick the landing, and boy, if he doesn’t...
He never acts like he has the whole thing figured out. Only that he has the ending planned out in his mind. In fact he even admits that he doesn't have anything figured out. So not sure where you get the impression that, that is how he acts.

Q: To the reader, it’s amazing to think about the fact that you had Brook’s story planned out when you first introduced Laboon. Exactly how far ahead do you plan One Piece, and what is your story-planning technique?

EO: I only have the ending of One Piece in my mind, and nothing else. But knowing the end point, I weave the story and make story arcs that build up to it.
 
#52
Creating this series in general, and acting like he had everything figured out from the start. Arguably, he STILL has no idea how he’s gonna stick the landing, and boy, if he doesn’t...
I remember that he said only the ending was done.
( Probably since the preTS )
The route to it nope.

Tho I would say that him not sticking to his own ideas was bad .... editor ideas played a role when it comes to the current situation of the series .
 
#54
I remember that he said only the ending was done.
( Probably since the preTS )
The route to it nope.

Tho I would say that him not sticking to his own ideas was bad .... editor ideas played a role when it comes to the current situation of the series .
Part of this is why i truly believe the conclusion has to do with Shanks. Hes the only other major character conceived from the beginning of the series, unlike BB (teased 150 chapters in), Akainu (teased 300 chapters in) or Im (teased 900 chapters in).

Though, that goes along with the idea that you have to believe Shanks is not 100% a good person, and many people here have a hard time believing that. But IF Oda truly has had his ending planned from the beginning with minimal changes, Shank's character is the only constant in all of this. Hell, Zoro's final goal (Mihawk) only seems to be associated with Shanks and his crew.
 
#55
One example..


Shabaodoby arc was supposed different, his editor back then said that the arc needed something else and the supernovas were created.


I think the idea was great initially but it ended up being too much for the story I mean if I recall well Oda said that is hard to place and use them.

( Plus I think their existence is the reason the SHs are not used properly)

So if the idea of an editor did all of this then damm we what else is currently in the story thanks to them ( good or bad).
 
#56
Big Meme and her crew, ESPECIALLY them coming to Wano.
Overloading Wano with 10,000 characters.
Most Post TS antagonists, Doflamingo's crew in particular was a huge disappointment.
Doflamingo shifting from a Joker type villain into a clone of Crocodile with a god complex.
Kaido becoming the King of the Hostages in his fight with Eiichiro Oden.
The Great Cake Chase.
The Rikus and the Dwarfs.
The Kozukis and Toki the plot device/McMuffin.
The time travel twist, really don't think we needed it.
Kyoshiro being Denjiro.
The growing chosen one bullshit revolving around Luffy.
 
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#57
One example..

Shabaodoby arc was supposed different, his editor back then said that the arc needed something else and the supernovas were created.


I think the idea was great initially but it ended up being too much for the story I mean if I recall well Oda said that is hard to place them.

( Plus I think their existence is the reason the SHs are not used properly)
The concept of the Supernovas weren't created back then. He already had them in mind and was going to bring them into the fold in the New World, but the editors told him he needed to spice up Sabaody, so he created the characters and introduced them there.
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The growing chosen one bullshit revolving around Luffy.
Oda has never hid this concept from the fandom. He's been building up to this since One Piece's inception. Not like a certain other series that dropped that bomb halfway through the final arc.
 
#58
The concept of the Supernovas weren't created back then. He already had them in mind and was going to bring them into the fold in the New World, but the editors told him he needed to spice up Sabaody, so he created the characters and introduced them there.
"He already had them in mind ..."

Any source of it?

I don't recall him saying that .

I do recall that he said kid was someone who will play a role in the future but no more than that.

"so he created the characters and introduced them there"
Yeah the editor was the reason of their existence.
 
#60
One example..


Shabaodoby arc was supposed different, his editor back then said that the arc needed something else and the supernovas were created.


I think the idea was great initially but it ended up being too much for the story I mean if I recall well Oda said that is hard to place and use them.

( Plus I think their existence is the reason the SHs are not used properly)

So if the idea of an editor did all of this then damm we what else is currently in the story thanks to them ( good or bad).
Not sure if you can blame the Supernovas for that, it's more that Oda nowadays wants to focus more and more on Worldbuilding these days instead of characters he focused on for decades now , it's like when a band decides to try a new genre after doing a certain style for decades
 
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