Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

[Patryipe]

Killer is down, take a look at the panels just after he got caught off guard by Big Mom.

Law got hit by a lightning attack straight up, and I don’t think he’s tougher than Killer.

Zoro might not be down, but he got hit by Big Mom at much closer range than anyone else.

Luffy is bleeding all over and the fight just started.

idk dude, this isn’t looking great atm

Killer is down as much as Luffy was down after he got hit by Apoo...

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Luffy’s already extremely fucked up and bleeding from the mouth. The fight started two chapters ago.

The issue with this battle is that the Yonko have to land significantly fewer hits to win. Like literally Killer and Law are borderline one shot material.

 

[WesMidnight]

You need to seriously learn what tagging means man, you are wasted here if you don't.

Explain to me how Zoro having his attack dodged this chapter proves he has never failed to tag Kaido.

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

Onigashima has a radius of a few kilometres lol.

Maybe I should clarify that San Juan Wolf might be taller than Onigashima’s peak, not bigger as in terms of radius or width lol. Obviously no OP character is that big.

 

[Sentinel]

Good post but too much Luffy wank. Especially coming from a reserved guy like you.
If he was fighting Kaido on levelled playing field, there wouldnt be any need for 5vs2 and it would be 2vs2, no?
Kaido is something else, nobody can emerge victorious against him in a fair fight.

For Luffy to be a match for him he has to take hits as good as he delivers.
His hits are not that good in the first place and he is one Thunder Bagua away from a KO.
Not blaming him, TB could be a KO for everyone probably but he needs at least a KO ability to off Kaido which he doesnt have.

Luffy pummels the fuck outta Kaido, tanks his Borobreath head on, shows new techniques. Luffy deserves the wank as much as Zoro tbh.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

we don't see what happened with zoro

I’m not saying Zoro is down, I’m just saying he took a more powerful version of an attack that KO’d Killer and probably KO’d Law. In other words, Zoro is probably damaged quite a bit.

 

[rerere]

I’m sure Kid will shine very soon, I was just hoping to see something more than a suplex, I didn’t mind his Punk Vice from last chapter for example.

He didn't particulary shine in this chapter but was still impressive

- Grabbed dragon Kaido by the head and slammed him on the ground, that's a pretty good show of strenght

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- Was able to block Big Mom's lightning, probably using his detached arms as conductors. A second sneaky try was needed with what seems to be a lightning homie that sneaked him

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But this chapter was much more for my man Killer

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

You think Oda built up everything to chapter 1000 with Oden's prophecy for the WG to fare worse than the Scabbards did? Come on man

Yes.
I think they will win, just not right now.

 

[WesMidnight]

Your zoro hate is just cringe at this point

Saying Zoro is tankier than Luffy from a 600 chapter old feat, that has already been explained, and superceded by Impel Down, Marineford, and WCI is intellectually dishonest. I guess Franky is stronger than Zoro because he broke through tekkai before Zoro did.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Zoro is doing way too good ...
that's why I brought up Enma "match up advantage"

That's cuz Zoro is way too strong...

About time we all agreed

 

[nik87]

What do you think about this statement:

"Plan 1: Shoot some slashes... Nah, it's too far to be effective. That won't knock him out..."

I interpreted this statement that Zoro was talking about the golem and considering that slashes gets weaker by long distance, I always thought that Zoro's swordsmanship allowed him to cut mountains when he was near them.

Focus on the ending. What has knocked Pica out? Direct cqc slash from Sanzen Sekai.
Ranged slashes cannot knock Pica out, he already went through a 1080pHo.
It's uncertain whether he can slash the golem or not from that distance but he certainly cant get close to real Pica from over there.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

I’m not saying Zoro is down, I’m just saying he took a more powerful version of an attack that KO’d Killer and probably KO’d Law. In other words, Zoro is probably damaged quite a bit.

if he had real damaged oda would draw it

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Killer is down as much as Luffy was down after he got hit by Apoo...

The difference is that one is Apoo and the other is an emperor

 

[HA001]

This is pure cope.

its pure facts there is luffy out after his attack moria still up ranting

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

if he had real damaged oda would draw it

He will next week.

 

[Finalbeta]

Explain to me how Zoro having his attack dodged this chapter proves he has never failed to tag Kaido.

He can tag top tiers, so he is 100% tagging AND hitting Mingo who is merely an high tier. Tagging IS a speed feat, hitting is the step that comes next, but tagging alone already means a lot. Is it more clear now?

Also Kaido cannot dodge every attack Zoro throws at him, he was hit several times in this arc, even without Law assisting in.

This story that the yonko let themselves be hit is headcanon, I could understand drunk Kaido, but that's about it.

 

[Peroroncino]

Saying Zoro is tankier than Luffy from a 600 chapter old feat, that has already been explained, and superceded by Impel Down, Marineford, and WCI is intellectually dishonest. I guess Franky is stronger than Zoro because he broke through tekkai before Zoro did.

Zoro wasn't at marineford to compare but don't let that stop you from hating Zoro at the end of the day it doesn't matter,he will just keep getting win after win,its like oda said to sanji's VA once ''Don't speak ill of Zoro''

 

[nik87]

Luffy pummels the fuck outta Kaido, tanks his Borobreath head on, shows new techniques. Luffy deserves the wank as much as Zoro tbh.

His offense is good, only when compared to other brawlers. Not comparable to weapon users.
Even Killer, without internal destruction, does an amazing job while Luffy couldnt do anything without ID.

 

[Extravlad]

Luffy’s already extremely fucked up and bleeding from the mouth. The fight started two chapters ago.

Did you read Luffy vs Katakuri?

 

[OPKnK]

You're right without haki zoro is tankier and being a specialist in armament would make zoro even more tanky

Being specialist is CoA don't mean you best at all CoA skills as we already seen there different types just like CoO.
Luffy whole style is using haki on his body to help deal with damage something we have not seen zoro done .