Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[ImmaIvanoM]

I see.
Was hoping someone would quote a SBS or databook or whatever that would set it in stone.
I'm going for the "hybrid mode is best suited for fighting, but considering the physiology of some animals, mythical or not, full beast mode might give them better offensive or defensive capabilities, that would be diminished with humanoid traits".
Seems kinda the best view as things stand.

Those terms dont even exist in the manga i think. I dont believe Oda has ever made a clear distinction of any of these saying hybrid or full beast or anything

And i think i know why. The second Zoan introduced in the story is Chopper. The same chopper with no “Full beast” form as of yet and multiple versions of “hybrid”... If Oda ever clearly states there exists a “Full beast” mode then immediately people will ask about Chopper and he aint having that

This here is the power of ambiguity. The same way paramecias are ambiguously anything so that Oda can do whatever he wants, Zoans will be left ambiquous as well so that Oda can have Chopper exist like that and even have Black maria just be half human half spider like that. You can argue that Black maria doesnt make sense but then you get asked “Where have you seen in the manga that its a rule that she cant exist?” And there is no rule

 

[Zolo]

the zoro haters are reaching into the stratosphere to downplay zoro whis week, oda is making it for hard for them

Chapter isnt even out yet wank doesnt stop

 

[Doggo]

Just want to throw it out there.

Didn't like Zoro simply copying Kinemon's tech. When it was introduced and he showed some interest in it, I thought he would adapt it to his Santoryuu and create something of his own. But no. Dude actually just copied it out of nowhere. LOL

 

[Zowo]

Mihawk: ''A sword without GRACE (SKILL) is no strong sword.''
--- Chapter 0050

Mihawk himself should be a Mihawk hater.

-Zoro gets stronger by stealing Kinemon's technique.

- Zoro: you don't know the difference between using 3 swords and 3 swords style .

Zoro extremist: HaTeRs. ..SkEtChBoK duh!

U mad oda bodied u again
muh skill muh oden haki

damaji kontrolu erkan s best tehnique

 

[Hedfi]

The way i see it, by introducing the CP0 and having them analizing the state of the battle right now, Oda wants to give us just enough infos about the current state of the war, and then focuses entirely on the rooftop for the next few chapters. So yeah I don't think we will get back to under the roof for the next 1, 2 chapters at least.

Very possible.

I just don't know what're they going to do now that they appeared in Onigashima. Are they going to join a side or not? Or are they going to just watch the battle then clean up afterwards? There's also the possibility of them joining up with Orochi (He's definetly alive) and his forces, the now forgotten third side of the war, to later face off against the loser of the ongoing battle.

 

[Erkan12]

@Shiroyru why zoro saying to get stronger and not more skilled since the wss is about skill? @Erkan12

I knew these extremists can't read the manga...

Mihawk: ''A sword without GRACE (SKILL) is no strong sword.''
--- Chapter 0050

Mihawk himself should be a Mihawk hater.

-Zoro gets stronger by stealing Kinemon's technique.

- Zoro: you don't know the difference between using 3 swords and 3 swords style .

Zoro extremist: HaTeRs. ..SkEtChBoK duh!

 

[Peroroncino]

Chapter isnt even out yet wank doesnt stop

I touched a nerve without even trying,its just like i said the stratosphere

 

[Doggo]

Those terms dont even exist in the manga i think. I dont believe Oda has ever made a clear distinction of any of these saying hybrid or full beast or anything

And i think i know why. The second Zoro introduced in the story is Chopper. The same chopper with no “Full beast” form as of yet and multiple versions of “hybrid”... If Oda ever clearly states there exists a “Full beast” mode then immediately people will ask about Chopper and he aint having that

This here is the power of ambiguity. The same way paramecias are ambiguously anything so that Oda can do whatever he wants, Zoans will be left ambiquous as well so that Oda can have Chopper exist like that and even have Black maria just be half human half spider like that. You can argue that Black maria doesnt make sense but then you get asked “Where have you seen in the manga that its a rule that she cant exist?” And there is no rule

Confession time.
I like Black Maria zoan design. (except the silly spider face, could have been drawn more menacing).

 

[Buusatan94]

Can Hawkins use his powers to heal the SN after they get wrecked by Hybrid Kaido?

As far as we know Hawkins' powers can't be used for healing. Marco's powers on the other hand...

 

[Punpun]

I don't think it's possible. Zoro receiving Enma symbolises inheriting Oden's will, so Enma would remain a major focus in the fight.

Your right but later on Kaido focus is going to shift to Zoro, once Zoro shown how strong he is .

Though I doubt comparison between Oden and Zoro are going to stop.

 

[Buusatan94]

Very possible.

I just don't know what're they going to do now that they appeared in Onigashima. Are they going to join a side or not? Or are they going to just watch the battle then clean up afterwards? There's also the possibility of them joining up with Orochi (He's definetly alive) and his forces, the now forgotten third side of the war, to later face off against the loser of the ongoing battle.

There is also the possibility to see a meeting and confrontation between them and Big Mom, given the strong ties they have with Mother Carmel and how she was supposed to be sold to them and that they may know that it's Linlin who killed and ate Mother Carmel and the orphans.

 

[Finalbeta]

He wants to master the way to get 100% of Oden out of Enma

How far fetched this would be?

Imagine Zoro playing the role of the exorcist now my man.

I just don't see it lol.

 

[Zowo]

skill

 

[Peroroncino]

skill

Didn't mihawk promise Zoro he would wait for him as the strongest too?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

But how G5 even make sense while Luffy still not fully master g4(still have a shortime limit)? What based g5 would gonna be if not a Haki based? We know that Haki is the most important thing to deal with Kaido atm, especially Luffy.

Probably it would end soon.

Maybe G5 is the mastered haki form or its the awakening which doesnt utilize haki

by this i mean, what if there is nothing to master about G4? Like what if G4 just works that way no matter what. Like the actual mechanics of how it works just plainly lead to quick exhaustion and there is nothing to actually master here

So you just need a whole seperate ability instead. G5 could just be the ability whose mechanics are entirely so different from G4 that they just lead to better haki use and its G5 thay doesnt have a limit.

You’re question then is, “why would Luffy ever use G4 then if he has a wholw separate form that doesnt have a time limit?” Well then maybe its not a full form the same way G4 is so he cant just do extended combat with it

Like remember how G2 and G3 were introduced together, where G2 was a full form that just comes with extended combat potential while G3 was sort of a form but it was mostly augmentations of Base luffy for specific attacks.

What if G5 is like G3. The reason Luffy doesnt just stop using G4 is because G5 isnt an Overal stat boost like G4 and so its not actually useful for full on extended combat. But then since its not used for full on extended combat, it is also not using haki nonstop like G4. So basically G5 could be base luffy doing something very interesting just in base form and augmenting some few stats like G3. And if G5 also has a drawback like G3 used to have, its not a haki bases draw back. So Luffy would essentially mever run out of haki using G5 but hes also not getting that full stat boost for extendes combat of G4.

Something like that

Or it could be just awakening

 

[rerere]

Fucking providers, just give me some Kidd-Killer greatness

 

[nik87]

Mihawk: ''A sword without GRACE (SKILL) is no strong sword.''
--- Chapter 0050

Mihawk himself should be a Mihawk hater.

It is Grace(Skill) that will allow Zoro to cut down Kaido, Luffy and Shanks.
The Crying Six members have already asked you how is that supposed to help you guys.

 

[Buusatan94]

The Supernovas are really going to need that Kaido and Big Mom are separated or turn on each other to win in the third round on the mainland.

 

[Zowo]

Fucking providers, just give me some Kidd-Killer greatness

u didn t saw the new info? kidd got ko

 

[Buusatan94]

u didn t saw the new info? kidd got ko

Where's that new info btw ?