Who is this "Oden"?


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Kaido doesn’t necessarily need to die in order for him to feel utter defeat. Remember for Oda crushing one’s dream is about equal to death in One Piece. Zoro can get his Ryuma moment over the Capital for all the citizens to see and it could very well be the final blow resulting in Kaido being incapacitated. He don’t gotta die at the hands of Zoro, its a possibility but not one set in stone.
Why would a loss crush his dream ? He's lost before.
 
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Why would a loss crush his dream ? He's lost before.
Those were losses he could bounce back from, look no further than vs Oden. Right now he’s facing one for the books and one that would make or break his Pirate King aspirations. He even said that himself in chapter 1001. So if he falls here ain’t no bouncing back. He doesn’t need to die for this to be an utter loss.
 
And when did Kaido himself declare Kid an threat to his plan?
when luffy and law were called out for what they did to doffy... and the smiles.. he told Kid to tell them the consequences.. basically lumping him in the same category he knows kid more than his VC thats goes for luffy too.. since he knows kid and luffy more than their crew coz they are the captains the head of their crew and agenda. .. besides.. they are 3 people with the same motives... their goal being alike and are the top 3 rookies of their generation... infront of kaido with their respective VC's.... thats also why oda involves alot of Kid, luffy and law combo moments...
 
There are many ways Oda can end Kaido without killing him. Of course killing him is not out of table but I don't think Oda kills Kaido when he can't even kill scabbards or Hyogoro. Oda solved the "final fight in captail" problem just by shifting onigaishima base to capital which none expected...same way he can give Kaido different ending...will see what will happen...
I also don't see Kaido dying, he can be capture by CP0, saved by BM in the last moment and took to WI or maybe, BUT THAT ONLY AFTER HE IS DEFEATED AND UNCONSCIOUS, Tama will feed him with her ''cheek balls'' and he became the Wano protector.
 
Those were losses he could bounce back from, look no further than vs Oden. Right now he’s facing one for the books and one that would make or break his Pirate King aspirations. He even said that himself in chapter 1001. So if he falls here ain’t no bouncing back. He doesn’t need to die for this to be an utter loss.
Being pirate King isn't his dream though
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Crocodile lost to WB too and he still didn't get killed by MC.
Crocodile didn't escape capture 18 times.
 
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