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alright, but for that to happen.... First:
1- Hiyori should change her mind first (cause she stated she will not see the rest to not hold them back from war, as she told Kawamatsu and Zoro that if they see her, their morale for battle may drop and distract them....

2- After changing her mind because on a whim, she also by miraculous way, interacts with Onimaru once again.

3- She sees his ability to transform into any people, where he suddenly on a whim wanted to copy other people too

4- Then, also go on a ship into Onigashima (ALL BEFORE Onigashima is lifted into sky by Kaido)....

Lastly, you have yet to explain why would they troll the fuck out of scabbards.... they see Oden... get so happy, only to then say "joking" I was just trying to boost your morale.... that's some sick shit to do for your ally...

I mean, it's possible, not going to say it's Not... but for me at least, it's the least likely scenario compared to simply Oden surviving and Toki sending him to future
she didnt meet them
she healed them and left
not meeting them doesnt mean staying on the side and doing nothing

she knows he turns from a man to a fox already thats not a big deal at all

why is this any different from tamas situation
in fact this could be them


that could be a number of reasons
 
she didnt meet them
she healed them and left
not meeting them doesnt mean staying on the side and doing nothing

she knows he turns from a man to a fox already thats not a big deal at all

why is this any different from tamas situation
in fact this could be them


that could be a number of reasons
Lol, I'm saying there is a "maybe".... Surely Onimaru is the best choice when it comes to not being Oden... however, I see higher chances in it being Oden honestly....
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King got his ass slammed by Marco. He is maybe still lying down on the ground for a while:king:
King doesn't have Raid Suit to tank that shit and stand up
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The problem is.... Oda with this chapter made it in a way that ANY CHOICE other than Oden is EVEN worse.... here is why:

1- Devon: She doesn't know Oden, or Scabbard to tend to their wounds, heal them, THEN create oden image

2- Kanjuro: Why would he heal the scabbards if he just wanted to deceive them? why tend to their wounds? him or orochi coming back would only serve to increase their misery and not help scabbards...

3- Onimaru/Gyokimaru: First, it was not confirmed if he can immitate any look/person... otherwise, he probably would have taken Kawamatsu's look when he was pretending to be him.... Secondly, we see a shadow of either "Toki or Hiyori", a shadow of woman two chapters ago... meaning this person tended to the wounds, and this Oden (fake or real) is associated with the female in shadow... We have seen Hiyori and Onimaru before and they do not have interaction or know each other... they have no connection.... plus why would they troll the scabbards that oden is alive? they supposed to be good to scabbards, and not troll them

4- Lastly, Toki's fruit cannot go back into the past, based on what she said.... So, IFFF Toki sent Oden "before his time of execution" and then came back to be executed, it will be conflicted, because Oden once he is sent to future, he cannot go back to the past once again to die, as the fruit does not work that way... it's ONLY ONE WAY... into future, no going into past...

Which basically only leaves a simple explaination, as much as trash as you would think, it would not create conflicts in the story or plotholes... which is simply Oden survived the execution, the WHOLE THING.... and then leaped into the future along with Toki... and the person in shadow is Toki, and this is real Oden....

Again, this may sound trash to you all, BUT Oda with this chapter put it in a way that ANYTHING beside that explaination will be simply a "plothole" rather than simple trash writing of surviving
Ehhh, it's effectively the opposite. You are trying to explain to yourself why every one else aside from Oden is a "plot hole" and they aren't really that good enough to explain because there are reasons to believe that it's anything but Oden.

Toki literally says she can't send people back in time. She receives the letter telling her to send people back after Oden dies. So unless Oden survived oil burning his skin off or a bullet to the head, he's dead homie.
 
No idea what's that
Nanatsu no taizai

C'mon, that arc shits on Wano
Just because it's the worst arc in Naruto doesn't mean it's worse than Wano
That arc had stakes than this clown fest going on in Wano
Pls the last arc was full of plotarmos, plotholes, powerups out of nowhere, almost nobody die in the biggest war in Naruto history outside of Neji, Naruto alone had multiple powerups in just one arc. The fight with the Juubi was worse and so many other bad parts, Wano is a masterpiece in compare to the last war of Naruto lmao and this mean a lot.

Fairy tail has very bad arcs where the final villians basically get one shotet, Magi end bad in my opinin. Their are tons of Mangas who show far worse arcs then Wano. Naruto war as example..

Haven't read a worse arc than Wano
Not saying Wano is the greatest, but their are tons of bad manga arcs outside of One piece. As naruto as example.
 
Ehhh, it's effectively the opposite. You are trying to explain to yourself why every one else aside from Oden is a "plot hole" and they aren't really that good enough to explain because there are reasons to believe that it's anything but Oden.

Toki literally says she can't send people back in time. She receives the letter telling her to send people back after Oden dies. So unless Oden survived oil burning his skin off or a bullet to the head, he's dead homie.
We'll see soon
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