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Who defeats King?


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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#81
Do I need to believe zoro or you?
Enma gives zoro better AP and lethality
You "what does Enma give him"
Zoro "after mastering it I'll be stronger "
You " it isn't gonna make zoro stronger
He needs haki to be strong"
Enma being 21 grade means nothing, it has more lethality than Supreme blades since WB and co never left a scar on kaido with their supreme 12 blades.
You dont need to believe shit. Cause you dont have the comprehension skills to differentiate between a question and a statement. He asks a question.
Its doesnt add any power to zoro. It steals what he has. What it will give is better haki control which again is zoro himself.
Simply picking the sword up is NoT a power up.
 
#83
No, he didn't say he'll be stronger with Enma. He said that he needs to get stronger to use it. That's totally different from just picking up a sword and it making him randomly stronger.

Enma is the same grade as Shusui, and it's not a black blade. So... not a powerup. It forces its user to go full throttle at all times regardless of what the user intentions. That's... not a powerup either.
Where the hell does it say that ? He said by the time Im used to I will be stronger. He didnt say I need to get stronger to use it. Meaning the more he uses it the better he will be with it. And the more stronger he will. This is using the official translation the Ztard posted.
 
#84
The sword itself is not a powerup. Enma is no better a sword than Shusui is.

What Enma is doing is forcing Zoro to train himself in a way that Shusui didn't require. I find it hard to describe that as a powerup in the way you people are implying, which is that just somehow picking up Enma has made Zoro stronger. That is simply not what has happened.
Whe don t need facts we need headcanons:smithnie:
 
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Inspector_Mu

#86
The sword itself is not a powerup. Enma is no better a sword than Shusui is.

What Enma is doing is forcing Zoro to train himself in a way that Shusui didn't require. I find it hard to describe that as a powerup in the way you people are implying, which is that just somehow picking up Enma has made Zoro stronger. That is simply not what has happened.
It's a better sword than shishui
Shishui has no hype above Enma.

Zoro is training to Master Enma and become stronger

Oda wouldn't hand zoro something that is weaker than.his previous swords
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We are 80% in the story
He gave luffy haki upgrade
Sanji RS
Yet Emma isn't gonna be upgrade... okay

Because you dont wanna accept zoro was weak and shishui isnt above Enma
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#87
Where the hell does it say that ? He said by the time Im used to I will be stronger. He didnt say I need to get stronger to use it. Meaning the more he uses it the better he will be with it. And the more stronger he will. This is using the official translation the Ztard posted.
No he didnt he asked a question. Another one who doesnt know the difference between the two. Smh.
Picking the sword up is a liability not a power up.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#89
It's a better sword than shishui
Shishui has no hype above Enma.

Zoro is training to Master Enma and become stronger

Oda wouldn't hand zoro something that is weaker than.his previous swords
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We are 80% in the story
He gave luffy haki upgrade
Sanji RS
Yet Emma isn't gonna be upgrade... okay

Because you dont wanna accept zoro was weak and shishui isnt above Enma
Just being able to handle the sword proves hes above all the scabbards and stronger than you ever spouted he was.
Stop pedalling shit and give an opinion on why the sword is an instant power up.
 
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Inspector_Mu

#92
Whats the difference lmao. The answer will be the same yes. Unless your saying he will be weaker. Zoro susptects he will get stronger....so I trust my boi.
No zoro isnt stronger because of Enma.
Because of his training

Thej why does he need to train to use Enma if Enma doesn't make him stronger?

Let him just use another sword then since he trained his haki
 
#97
Just being able to handle the sword proves hes above all the scabbards and stronger than you ever spouted he was.
Stop pedalling shit and give an opinion on why the sword is an instant power up.
Exactly Zoro being the only one being to tame Enma since Oden proves that he's at least close to him..the same Oden who was above every samurais but some guys thinks that Kyoshiro can give Zoro a great fight :tchpepe:
 
#99
It's a better sword than shishui
Shishui has no hype above Enma.

Zoro is training to Master Enma and become stronger

Oda wouldn't hand zoro something that is weaker than.his previous swords
Shusui is one of the two black blades in existence that we know of, a 21 Great Grade Sword wielded by the former hero of Wano, famous for slaying a dragon.

Enma is not a black blade, a 21 Great Grade Sword wielded by a former Shogun of Wano, famous for wounding a dragon.

Hype's... pretty much the same.
Where the hell does it say that ? He said by the time Im used to I will be stronger. He didnt say I need to get stronger to use it. Meaning the more he uses it the better he will be with it. And the more stronger he will. This is using the official translation the Ztard posted.
"So by the time I'm used to this, it'll mean I've gotten that much stronger, won't it?"

That does not make the sword a powerup. It is the process of getting used to it that makes him stronger. And what does he need to get use to? The sword forcing out his haki and making his attacks far stronger, and more costly, than Zoro intends.

Zoro is getting stronger by refining the flow of haki. Right now Emma is like a tap that's always on full blast. His training is learning to regulate the flow of that tap so the sword doesn't leave him a shrivelled husk whenever he uses it.

Yes, Zoro is getting stronger. But it's not because he's picked up a sword that magically makes him stronger. It's not the case that Zoro+Enma is stronger than Zoro+Shusui- far from it. It's the haki training that's making him stronger
 
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