Future Events Why I am not Convinced that Luffy Defeats Kaido

[nik87]

You guys have fucking lost it. Nothing Luffy has shown is effective? He smashed Kaido's fucking face into the ground, and he didn't even use King Kong Gun yet. Imagine when he brings out King Kong Gatling.

Kaido is already in his final form, and Luffy hasn't even shown his "King" moves of Gear 4 yet.

lol, we have lost it? While you can literally see that his entire round of Boundman resulted in nothing?
He can pull whatever he wants, he cannot beat Kaido. Get that through your head.

Oda literally explaining how he's trying to come up with the method that Luffy will beat Kaido in 2016.

The same Oda who brought in another Emperor to Wano? I wonder why... :yasu:
Is it perhaps because once Zoro kills Kaido, Luffy will have someone to beat as well?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

tf you talking about ?
everyone will know
this will be one of zoros MANY legends a swordsman needed to make his name reach the heavens

What do you mean what am I talking about? Beating Mihawk use to be enough for you guys. Now all of a sudden it isn't?

?

Zoro’s dream has two parts. Having his name reach the heavens, and becoming the best swordsman ever. Defeating Kaido does the former, defeating Mihawk fulfils the latter. Don’t know why we need the mental gymnastics.



I love how we need to do these giga-reach, galaxy brain tinfoil takes instead of, y’know, looking at the mountain of evidence that Zoro is going to be the second Ryuma who, you guessed it, beheaded a dragon in the skies above Wano.

I know it’s destroying people on the inside that Zoro might land the killing blow, but c’mon folks. Stop grasping at straws and try to look at the evidence that’s staring you right in the face

Buckle down kiddo, as this may come as a shock to you, but Kaido isn't an actual Dragon, he's a person. Ryuma didn't slay a person, he slayed a Dragon, and Zoro wasn't impressed by that in the slightest when Gyukimaru brought it up because he already replicated that on Punk Hazard.

And now all of a sudden Zoro's dream has two parts.... It used to be that his name reaching the Heavens was synonymous with him defeating Mihawk. Now simply beating Mihawk isn't good enough....

 

[HA001]

What do you mean what am I talking about? Beating Mihawk use to be enough for you guys. Now all of a sudden it isn't?



Buckle down kiddo, as this may come as a shock to you, but Kaido isn't an actual Dragon, he's a person. Ryuma didn't slay a person, he slayed a Dragon, and Zoro wasn't impressed by that in the slightest when Gyukimaru brought it up because he already replicated that on Punk Hazard.

And now all of a sudden Zoro's dream has two parts.... It used to be that his name reaching the Heavens was synonymous with him defeating Mihawk. Now simply beating Mihawk isn't good enough....

Since when ? I been saying he killing kaido for years.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Remember when Don Krieg got back up after losing to Luffy and Ghin knocked him out? Replace Krieg and Ghin with Kaido and Zoro, and you have my ZKK scenario in my head.

 

[Den_Den_Mushi]

Buckle down kiddo, as this may come as a shock to you, but Kaido isn't an actual Dragon, he's a person.

So why’s he called the World’s strongest Creature? And why did Oda have Zoro blatantly ignore Queen and declare that his main target is Kaido? :queenhear:

And now all of a sudden Zoro's dream has two parts.... It used to be that his name reaching the Heavens was synonymous with him defeating Mihawk.

I never personally thought that defeating a single man, a recluse with no crew or political influence to speak of, would make anyone’s name reach the heavens. Seems like you elevate Mihawk’s status even more than I do

Maybe Zoro fans are able to accept new evidence and envision new possibilities for Zoro as Oda draws the Scabbards saying that Kaido needs to be beheaded and after OP magazine runs articles about Kaido’s dragon kanji and a new dragon slaying legend being born? I dunno, just a thought.

 

[sanjikun]

smashed kaidos face into the ground and what
he got up and ate luffy

What do you mean "and what"? The battle is not over yet. He went to his final form. There is nothing else after Hybrid.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

You guys have fucking lost it. Nothing Luffy has shown is effective? He smashed Kaido's fucking face into the ground, and he didn't even use King Kong Gun yet. Imagine when he brings out King Kong Gatling.

Kaido is already in his final form, and Luffy hasn't even shown his "King" moves of Gear 4 yet.

You realize Zoro hasn't shown 3000 worlds nor Ashura yet right?

 

[MonsterKaido]

What do you mean "and what"? The battle is not over yet. He went to his final form. There is nothing else after Hybrid.

Awakening

 

[sanjikun]

You realize Zoro hasn't shown 3000 worlds nor Ashura yet right?

And? He used Sanzen Sekai just to take out Pica. That's his 2nd strongest move after Ashura. Kaido is eons above Pica in terms of durability.

Oda gave Luffy advanced Ryou specifically to beat Kaido.

Awakening

There is no Zooan awakening form. Zooan awakening = improved recovery, strength.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

And? He used Sanzen Sekai just to take out Pica. That's his 2nd strongest move after Ashura. Kaido is eons above Pica in terms of durability.

Oda gave Luffy advanced Ryou specifically to beat Kaido.



There is no Zooan awakening form.

What does Pica got to do with wjat i just said? Zoro is hurting Kaido and still haven't brought out the big guns. Just like Luffy.

 

[Kenshiro11]

In short headcannon

 

[sanjikun]

What does Pica got to do with wjat i just said? Zoro is hurting Kaido and still haven't brought out the big guns. Just like Luffy.

Zoro had to pull out his 2nd strongest move just to take out Pica. That shows he's nowhere near enough to take out Kaido.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Zoro had to pull out his 2nd strongest move just to take out Pica. That shows he's nowhere near enough to take out Kaido.

Once again what does that gotta di with what i said? Anyways Zoro is stronger than he was vs Pica abd that attack was overkill for Pica. Also Ashura is a form not just one attack.

 

[MonsterKaido]

And? He used Sanzen Sekai just to take out Pica. That's his 2nd strongest move after Ashura. Kaido is eons above Pica in terms of durability.

Oda gave Luffy advanced Ryou specifically to beat Kaido.



There is no Zooan awakening form. Zooan awakening = improved recovery, strength.

Well it still grants more increase in recovery, strength compared to hybrid form

 

[matt245]

If you consider that defeating Mihawk is enough for someone's name to reach heaven then ok. I guess that you scale him to god tier or you put him as one of the steongest persons in the worls. I think that I saw someone saying that Zoro would kill Gandi... So oda now kills but when it fits your agenda or sonething? Also, why would Zoro want to go after him?
Zoro killing Gandi = 0 foreshadow and very little sense but it is acceptable because it fits their agendas.
Zoro killing Kaido = Tons of foreshadow and more sense but it is not acceptable because it doesn't fit their agendas.

 

[Finalbeta]

You realize Zoro hasn't shown 3000 worlds nor Ashura yet right?

I'm looking after ISDS and eventual attacks that are even far more potent than Silver Mist. For all we know nothing excludes the possibility he either empowered his Asura mode or even learnt a new power over time he has yet to disclose.

 

[HA001]

What do you mean "and what"? The battle is not over yet. He went to his final form. There is nothing else after Hybrid.

i mean luffy used all his haki and did fuck all in the long run and got eaten

 

[Droopy]

Zoro had to pull out his 2nd strongest move just to take out Pica. That shows he's nowhere near enough to take out Kaido.

at onigashima zoro just proved he can beat pica with one sword compared to dressrosa when he needed 3 swords

 

[matt245]

at onigashima zoro just proved he can beat pica with one sword compared to dressrosa when he needed 3 swords

Zoro's main problem against Pika was the he runned away the entire fight and also that he was as big as a mountain. Once Zoro had Pika close to him he low diffed that fodder lol.

 

[nik87]

Zoro had to pull out his 2nd strongest move just to take out Pica. That shows he's nowhere near enough to take out Kaido.

If he uses inferior attack to kill Kaido than the attack he used to defeat Pica, what does that mean for you?
That Kaido is weaker than Pica?