Current Events Will Zoro Forge Enma into a Black Blade During the Wano Arc?

[Rivaille]

If as I think black blade can only be done by pourring a big amount of Haki in one go in a blade, I think that Zoro will most likely turn his 3 blades black at the same time.

From a narrative perspective, Enma turning black in Wano makes the most sense to me, so yeah I do think it will happen in Wano.

The people saying that it cannot happen this arc are falling in the same rhetoric of the people who were saying that Zoro cannot get Adv CoC this arc. And we saw how this end up.

Saying that Zoro cannot ended up Wano with a better CoA than most top tiers is like saying that Luffy cannot end up WCi with a better CoO than most top tiers. And we saw how this end up.

 

[nik87]

If he doesn't, he will have to kill Kaido to show he surpassed Oden

He has already shown that.
Besting Kaido's hybrid in the exhausted state with his bones broken.
Compared to free shot on dragon form in good condition.
Note that Oden couldnt best base Kaido. Zoro built different.

 

[Malio]

There is zero indication that Enma is already partway towards being forged into a Black Blade.



No, per Hitetsu, blackening Enma will depend entirely on Zoro:

There's no real indication that the time spent with a blade matters towards forging it black. Especially not "time spent with the blade before Zoro learned Haoshoku coating".




Mihawk said that with haki any blade can become a Black Blade like Yoru:

I strongly doubt that all swords have wills.

Black Blades are most likely just the pinnacle of infusing haki into one's weapons.

Maybe they don't, but I personally believe that turning a blade black is both due to the combination of the users/swords will & haki.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

• Mihawk flashback
• Gyukimaru
• Hitetsu
• Zoro getting a vision/epiphany when he visits Ryuma's grave

Oh so you expect Zoro to create a black blade outside of the actual plot?

that’s weird… Like Zoro is just sitting somewhere and is like “okay let’s make a black blade” and then he does it! That’s kinda meh

What I expect is that at the end of the arc, Gyukimaru takes Zoro to Ryuma’s grave and Zoro LEARNS how to make a black blade… that’s it… He learns how to do it… Then next arc or the arc after that he does it… whatever the thing that Zoro discovers is how black blades are forged will NOT be as easy as “He learns what it is and then does it immediately afterwards”… It will be a process that requires Zoro to spend an entire arc dedicated to just pulling it off

this is literally the rarest haki feat in the entire verse… It’s not a one chapter long process

 

[Cinera]

So Zoro will come out of Wano with a black blade which means he has better haki than every top tier I just listed? That doesn’t make any sense. Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks, and Oden became top tiers with their swordsmanship and haki alone yet they don’t meet the necessary requirements to forge a black blade but Zoro coming out of Wano does?

End of Wano Zoro would be stronger than Oden.

There’s no way Shanks is a Yonko with one arm but doesn’t have the haki necessary to forge a black blade

Zoro is going to need to surpass Shanks in order to reach a level where he can challenge Mihawk:

Aside from the above, I think that Enma is easier to blacken than other swords because of its property that forces the user to excessively release Ryuo:

Furthermore, Enma is also of a lower grade than those of the Top Tier swordsmen, so that's another reason it may be easier to blacken.

I agree but chapter 1033 said that all blades whatever the status have their own will.
They also said that is the blade that choose the owner and not the owner that chose the blade.

Blackeing blade require multiple process but the harderst is to fully understand the will of the blade. Top swordman were able to do the first step (infusion with haki coating with coc too) but that not enough because they never explore the fully extend of the will behind the blade.

Enma the lord of the underwold (has his onw will) and Zoro was tested in chapter 1033 to carry her. He gave all his hacky in that occasion, but that only part of the process (which is what you stating infusing with hacky coc too) now Zoro need to understand what Enma really desire (aka chopping Kaido).

This is frankly just a headcanon that I started and no longer endorse.

What Mihawk said was that "every weapon can be turned into a Black Blade like mine", and he only mentioned haki.

There is no indication that fulfilling the will of the sword is what makes a blade Black. That's just headcanon.

I think forging a Black Blade is simply the pinnacle of infusing haki into your weapons.

 

[Sparda]

Nope, it'll be in the later arc I guess
And I don't think he'll forge Enma first before the Wado Ichimonji

 

[Cinera]

Maybe they don't, but I personally believe that turning a blade black is both due to the combination of the users/swords will & haki.

The swords will part is just popular headcanon at this point. The only thing that Mihawk mentioned was haki.

Oh so you expect Zoro to create a black blade outside of the actual plot?

that’s weird… Like Zoro is just sitting somewhere and is like “okay let’s make a black blade” and then he does it! That’s kinda meh

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. I never said that I believed that.

What I expect is that at the end of the arc, Gyukimaru takes Zoro to Ryuma’s grave and Zoro LEARNS how to make a black blade… that’s it… He learns how to do it… Then next arc or the arc after that he does it… whatever the thing that Zoro discovers is how black blades are forged will NOT be as easy as “He learns what it is and then does it immediately afterwards”… It will be a process that requires Zoro to spend an entire arc dedicated to just pulling it off

this is literally the rarest haki feat in the entire verse… It’s not a one chapter long process

There is little meaning to forging Enma into a Black Blade outside Wano.

 

[Welkin]

End of Wano Zoro would be stronger than Oden.



Zoro is going to need to surpass Shanks in order to reach a level where he can challenge Mihawk:

Aside from the above, I think that Enma is easier to blacken than other swords because of its property that forces the user to excessively release Ryuo:

Furthermore, Enma is also of a lower grade than those of the Top Tier swordsmen, so that's another reason it may be easier to blacken.




This is frankly just a headcanon that I started and no longer endorse.

What Mihawk said was that "every weapon can be turned into a Black Blade like mine", and he only mentioned haki.

There is no indication that fulfilling the will of the sword is what makes a blade Black. That's just headcanon.

I think forging a Black Blade is simply the pinnacle of infusing haki into your weapons.

Zoro surpassing Shanks is inevitable but if what you’re saying is true then he’ll forge a black blade as Wano is ending, right? Does that mean Zoro will be stronger and have a better handle on haki than Shanks too?

If Enma is easier to blacken than other swords then it wouldn’t be as weird I guess... but shouldn’t other swords have properties similar to that as well? Enma isn’t even a Supreme Grade blade

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

have no idea how you came to that conclusion. I never said that I believed that.

Okay so how long after Zoro learns how to do it do you expect he will do it? You said you expect Zoro will have a mihawk flashback… Okay… Will it like the Enma flashback? Zoro remembers how Cursed blades work and then in the exact same chapter that he remembers, he figures out how Enma works…

How long after Zoro learns how to make black blades will he then make a black blade?

There is little meaning to forging Enma into a Black Blade outside Wano.

why is enma special to you? I expect Zoro will make all three of his LAST SWORDS of the entire series, Black blades ALL AT ONCE

Remember we actually have no idea how black blades are forged… We don’t know if how long Zoro has used the sword matters… We don’t know if how old the sword is in general matters… We don’t know anything… It’s entirely an assumption by readers that Zoro has to do this One by one…

Like when Zoro learns exactly how black blades are forged, why woul he only do it with one sword at a time? Is it impossible to do it with more than one sword at the same time?

So whatever emphasis you are giving Enma doesn’t really matter if Zoro can do this all to all the swords he has at the same time.

 

[yorosenpai]

by the way the anime team coudnt be more clear about ZKK:
Kinemon was already celebraiting:

Oda is saying this though:

 

[Finalbeta]

If I had to bet I would suggest Zoro will unlock the first black blade against Shiryu so in a few years of real life time from now but I hope I will ultimately be proven i correct by Goda sensei.

 

[Malio]

The swords will part is just popular headcanon at this point. The only thing that Mihawk mentioned was haki.




I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. I never said that I believed that.



There is little meaning to forging Enma into a Black Blade outside Wano.

Yeah I know it is. But Haki alone turning the blade black is a personal doubt of mine. But we shall see

 

[Cinera]

Zoro surpassing Shanks is inevitable but if what you’re saying is true then he’ll forge a black blade as Wano is ending, right? Does that mean Zoro will be stronger and have a better handle on haki than Shanks too?

If Enma is easier to blacken than other swords then it wouldn’t be as weird I guess... but shouldn’t other swords have properties similar to that as well? Enma isn’t even a Supreme Grade blade

I think that Enma is easier to blacken than Top Tier swords for two reasons:

• It is of a lower Rank.
  • Great Grade vs Supreme Grade.
• It forcibly exudes the user's haki.
  • Enma's property awakened Zoro's latent Haoshoku.
  • Forging a Black Blade seems to be the pinnacle of infusing the blade with haki.

How long after Zoro learns how to make black blades will he then make a black blade?

Depending on how he learns about forging Black Blades, it may even happen in the very same chapter he learns it.

A Enma style Mihawk flashback seems very plausible to me.

why is enma special to you? I expect Zoro will make all three of his LAST SWORDS of the entire series, Black blades ALL AT ONCE

I don't think so. Enma is the blade tied to Wano, so it makes sense narratively that it is blackened in Wano.

Enma is special because of its intrinsic property:

And per Mihawk, forging a Black Blade is an accomplishment of haki infusion:

 

[Eagle]

 

[Paperchampion23]

Nobody actually read Tengu's dialogue. I said it a 1000 times that it never suggested Enma had to be turned black in Wano, and was flamed for that shit lol

 

[mly90]

Considering the way Loda wrapped up worst arc ever will gladly take this outcome

 

[L55]

It seems eos makes the feat mihawk achieved even better
Black blade>>>acoc

 

[nik87]

I guess we can rule out the "fulfill sword's wish" as a way of forging a Kokuto. All according to plan if you ask me.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

No Idea why people thought Zoro would turn enma black in Wano

 

[Marco]

It seems eos makes the feat mihawk achieved even better
Black blade>>>acoc

If Zoro got it in Wano they would downplay BBs even more. Glad he got Shanks' power before he gets Mihawks in EoS