Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[T.D.A]

Because he and kid failed to push kaido to a hybrid, they probably lost to dragon kaido or base kaido in their confrontation in the past.
And they just studied the weaknesses and strengths of DRAGON kaido according to killer and kaido, so kaido going totally into a form not seen now, his amazement makes sense.

He should have general knowledge of how Zoan fruits work though

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Zoro fulfilling Oden's will is insignificant to Luffy becoming PK. One of Luffy's requirement of becoming PK = surpassing Kaidou. So yeah going by that narrative, Luffy will be new WSC to replace Kaidou, before playing ping-pong with BB over WSC-WSM status.

Luffy is not surpassing Kaido this arc lol

 

[Thabeast]

The beast aura Zoro gets before his attacks is just so cool

 

[WesMidnight]

- so it's ur headcanon about internal damage Luffy also punched him with Gear 3rd gatling in wano and made kaido out for some time or when he used gear 3rd and punched him above his head all those punches did nothing kaido stood up like it's the time to see luffy again but alas he found him lying on the grou... no he gor helped by zoro again

None of what you posted negates the time reaction of Kaido being put down for several pages vs no pages.


There were ryuo bubbles after each gattling hit = internal damage.

Even before ryuo was a thing gatling didn't cut open the people Luffy fought, that's not how brawling works, doesn't mean asura did more damage to Kaku than jet gattling did to Lucci...

If you seriously think Luffy going all out with a g4 gattling did less damage than Zoro's mid effort attack then you are insulting Zoro's captain and aren't a Zoro fan, instead a devolved zorotard. Keep reading sword piece, where Pica is stronger than Doflamingo and Mihawk is stronger than Primebeard.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

so ... never ...

p.s

you are a Yonko hater ... you don't do anything but crying
that's why you can't be funny ...

Not funny

 

[Zolo]

The beast aura Zoro gets before his attacks is just so cool

Odens aura

 

[Thabeast]

Odens aura

 

[WesMidnight]

Nothing says that Hybrid won't be less durable than his dragon form given how resistant Kaido already is in his human form and that hybrid should be a titan of attack power and physical strength and other abilities, whereas Snakeman clearly lacks AP compared to Boundman which is clearly not enough against Kaido and is an immobile target when he's attacking.

Using Snakeman against Kaido would be a blunder.

Snakeman now has ryuo to supplement damage.

 

[CbShadow]

At this point there has to be g5 for luffy we seen everything already and zoro used almost every one of his best moves except ashura as well

Zoro has not come close to using almost everything he has.

He has Loin death somg, 1080p canon, dragon quake, 1000 billion world's, castle gate, tiger hunt and many more. There still asura mode and more lower level attacks. With powerful large amounts of ryuo any low level attacks can become incredibly powerful and damaged Kaido.

 

[Master Of All Arts]

I still want to see Luffy use snakeman and tankman first. Hybrid should be slightly less durable than full zoan so Snakeman should be a decent fit.
Kaido still has awakening himself to get through.

He can use his other forms, but are we really expecting it to do much though? Surely Luffy won't beat Kaido with the same punches he's been doing just cause Kaido is "slightly less durable" now in his hybrid form. So like I said, there has to be something else. Something that Kaido wouldn't just get up directly from and laugh off.

Also its too early for Kaido's hybrid. Where is base Kaido, Oda? He almost blitzed Luffy with thunder bagua and that's all we get from him???

 

[VinsmokeSanji]

Zoro dragon beast aura > dragon kaido

 

[Zolo]

Zoro has not come into work close to using almost everything he has.

He has Loin death somg, 1080p canon, dragon quake, 1000 billion world's, castle gate, tiger hunt and many more. There still asura mode and more lower level attacks. With powerful large amounts of ryuo any low level attacks can become incredibly powerful and damaged Kaido.

Forget asura allready, its long gone :cheers:

 

[Buusatan94]

Snakeman now has ryuo to supplement damage.

Ryo that is still far from enough to inflict grievous injuries on Kaido even with Boundman, Snakeman has less AP and will only inflict minor damages that Kaido can certainely take like a boss. And once Kaido lands hits on Snakeman Luffy...

 

[Thabeast]

Luffy is holding Zoro back in this fight... Now he has to keep protecting him since he can't do shit

 

[Red Admiral]

Not funny

I know ... you are not funny ... there is no need for you to tell me that

it's like pointing out to the sun and say "not cloudy"

 

[Bogard]

I need to see a clearer picture and compare it to the previous chapters. I hesitated a bit and Oda has been very inconsistent with the damage done to Kaido. I don't want to jump to conclusion like I did with the provider's hiding infos and interpreting them his own way.

Besides Kaido's recovery's ability is too OP right now.

Kaido just has insane durability/endurance and recovery speed. He is taking damage since the scabbard battle, but is still back like it's no worse to wear. He looked the most damaged after kong gatling though.

I'd say the SN damage ratio comparatively to each other look this way

Luffy - 92 %
Zoro - 3%
Killer - 3%
Law - 2%

Luffy did the most damage thus far due to being the one the most on the offense with his level3 hardened G4 punches, with Kong Gatling hurting Kaido the most(with Kaido temporarily down, and Big Mom worried)

Zoro did enough damage for Kaido to spout Luffy out, but Killer momentarily having Kaido down due to internal sonic attack, and Law giving slightly less damage with his gamma knife

Kid did the least thus far. Hope that changes though

 

[Zolo]

Luffy is holding Zoro back in this fight... Now he has to keep protecting him since he can't do shit

If not for saving luffy zoro would be absolutelly useless, its hes role now becouse hes too weak

 

[CbShadow]

Forget asura allready, its long gone :cheers:

There's nothing to support that. Luffy didn't use G4 against Hody.

If you don't want to count it then there are still several more attacks in his arsenal.

 

[nik87]

The onomatopoeia is also different.
Oden's Aura is basically Oden's will/spirit which we all know is passed on through swords. Given that Kaido is the only one seeing that presence, it should be the case.

Where was it during Oni Giri?
Why is Big Mom seeing it too?
Where is Kuina's will/spirit on Wado?
Where is the will/spirit of dead owner of Sandai Kitetsu?
Dont buy into the nonsense.

Kaido is dead and problem is solved. We dont need to fight anymore.

Even with Kaido dead, Luffy still needs babysitting. How many times is the question.

 

[Isaac Netero]

Ryo that is still far from enough to inflict grievous injuries on Kaido even with Boundman, Snakeman has less AP and will only inflict minor damages that Kaido can certainely take like a boss. And once Kaido lands hits on Snakeman Luffy...

If a Red Roc did that much damage to a Base Kaido I see no reason as to why Snakeman wouldn't work on his mid endurance form... Also Base Kaido was already blitzing Luffy imagine now in Hybrid if anything, Snakeman will be pretty useful in this fight.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Snakeman now has ryuo to supplement damage.

You know that even Boundman couldn´t damage much Kaido in his base form, he tank a Kong gun without even get pushed back.
His Hybrid form is larger and probably stronger, have better durability, I doubt Snakeman gonna put much damage while even with Boundman he couldn´t damage much Base Kaido.