General & Others Oden Flashback in Anime is canon. Approved by Oda and complements the Manga.
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No It's not.
That quote is something that was ALWAYS TRUE, it DOES NOT only apply to the Flashback
Oda did not say "I gave them permissions for the Oden flashback"
Oden has ALWAYS given the anime staff permission to do FILLERS for fights and stuff.
And he has also added MANGA and ANIME are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
It's not canon, even though Oda approves the fillers
That quote is something that was ALWAYS TRUE, it DOES NOT only apply to the Flashback
Oda did not say "I gave them permissions for the Oden flashback"
Oden has ALWAYS given the anime staff permission to do FILLERS for fights and stuff.
And he has also added MANGA and ANIME are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
It's not canon, even though Oda approves the fillers
Movies are not Canon.
I can understand where you're coming from but ''Strong World'' made the SHs go back to EB and Luffy destroying a top tier...
Wasn't it confirmed that chapter 0 is canon but not the movie ? (I will make some research) but pretty sure movies CANNOT be Canon unless explicitely stated.
I can understand where you're coming from but ''Strong World'' made the SHs go back to EB and Luffy destroying a top tier...
Wasn't it confirmed that chapter 0 is canon but not the movie ? (I will make some research) but pretty sure movies CANNOT be Canon unless explicitely stated.
it legit doesn't matter to me. I thought you wanted to do your research? But you haven't provided anything. "Wasn't it confirmed" it was not.
Oda: "And as far as something that will hold true for both the manga and the anime, this will be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year-old."
Manga fans will twist logic and reasoning to read:
"And as far as something that will hold true for both the manga (but not really because Luffy wasn't wearing an arm band and he can't ever change clothes) and the anime (and only the anime), this will be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year-old. "
Oda: "And as far as something that will hold true for both the manga and the anime, this will be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year-old."
Manga fans will twist logic and reasoning to read:
"And as far as something that will hold true for both the manga (but not really because Luffy wasn't wearing an arm band and he can't ever change clothes) and the anime (and only the anime), this will be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year-old. "
I tried to look for something ''official'' from Oda or something but I didn't spend the whole day on it.
I couldn t find anythimg but it doesn't surprise me as this is supposed to be ''obvious''.
What I'm sure about though is that the anime on many instances DIRECTLY opposes the Manga and if we start considering it canon then One Piece won't make any sense...
I couldn t find anythimg but it doesn't surprise me as this is supposed to be ''obvious''.
What I'm sure about though is that the anime on many instances DIRECTLY opposes the Manga and if we start considering it canon then One Piece won't make any sense...
Isn't the rubric "written by Oda"? Strong World is written by Oda. It's also not "the anime", but a theatrical movie. I personally don't mind, but there's no framework for "Chapter 0 is canon while Strong World is not." Throw away both of them if you like, but the two are inextricably tied together.
The difference between Chapter 0 and the Strong World movie, is Chapter 0 is background information on characters. The whole thing takes place over 20 years ago in verse time.
The Strong World movie, however, takes place in the current time period, but does not canonically fit within the story as it takes place directly after Thriller Bark but before Sabaody, yet Zoro is perfectly fine. If it breaks the continuity of the story, it can not be canon. Zoro can't go from gravely injured on Thriller Bark, to perfectly fine in Strong World, to still heavily injured on Sabaody because of what happened on Thriller Bark.
The Strong World movie, however, takes place in the current time period, but does not canonically fit within the story as it takes place directly after Thriller Bark but before Sabaody, yet Zoro is perfectly fine. If it breaks the continuity of the story, it can not be canon. Zoro can't go from gravely injured on Thriller Bark, to perfectly fine in Strong World, to still heavily injured on Sabaody because of what happened on Thriller Bark.
Go read the chapter where Sanji reunited with Luffy and has flashbacks to times with the crew. Then tell me when those times could have happened.
You guys clearly don't read many comics because American comics readers have swallowed much worse from series written by the same writer.
And the title of Chapter 0 is strong world. You can't just pick and choose what you want to be canon. Discard Chapter 0 and use all the manga stuff instead. Heck if you woke up and bought one piece from vol 1-98 you'd never see Chapter 0. It is tied to Strong World from start to end.
Plus, if you asked Oda what do you think he'll say? Strong World is non-canon? Or Zoro's injured got worse because of Strong World? Or "I wrote String world after Sabaody and tradeoffs were made for a good story".
You guys clearly don't read many comics because American comics readers have swallowed much worse from series written by the same writer.
And the title of Chapter 0 is strong world. You can't just pick and choose what you want to be canon. Discard Chapter 0 and use all the manga stuff instead. Heck if you woke up and bought one piece from vol 1-98 you'd never see Chapter 0. It is tied to Strong World from start to end.
Plus, if you asked Oda what do you think he'll say? Strong World is non-canon? Or Zoro's injured got worse because of Strong World? Or "I wrote String world after Sabaody and tradeoffs were made for a good story".
Strong World can't take place after Sabaody because the Straw Hats got split up for two years on Sabaody.
How come there is not a single mention in all of manga about Luffy's amazing achievement of defeating the legendary Shiki the Golden Lion? That would be a big deal in the One Piece World. Instead, all we get is a little snippet from Sengoku about how Shiki was the only person to ever escape Impel Down, and then he disappeared and that's it. The continuity issue, and the fact that not a single person even acknowledges the fact that a Legendary Pirate who once fought against Roger and Whitebeard was taken down by a bunch of Rookie Pirates, is plenty for Strong World to not be considered canon.
How come there is not a single mention in all of manga about Luffy's amazing achievement of defeating the legendary Shiki the Golden Lion? That would be a big deal in the One Piece World. Instead, all we get is a little snippet from Sengoku about how Shiki was the only person to ever escape Impel Down, and then he disappeared and that's it. The continuity issue, and the fact that not a single person even acknowledges the fact that a Legendary Pirate who once fought against Roger and Whitebeard was taken down by a bunch of Rookie Pirates, is plenty for Strong World to not be considered canon.
"Complimenting the manga rather than being plain filler", imo means the anime will fill in the gaps with greater detail than what was done in the past. It doesn't necessarily mean it should be considered canon though, its purpose is to expand what was presented in the manga through animation. Oden is obviously very important to Oda, so he most likely wants to make sure his portrayal in the anime is up to his personal standards.
