Break Week One Piece - Chapter 966: Whitebeard and Roger
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The power scaling cancer from this chapter is going to be irritating as all hell, so fuck Oda for not giving a slight damn about power scaling in his story smh.
Honestly think the most wild thing is the disrespect people are already trying to throw Rayleigh's way because they can't understand something as simple as Roger interfering with the Oden clash was just him being greedy and showing a little bit of his character. Rayleigh's portrayal is still some of the best in the series at this point and shouldn't be devalued because of some battle that didn't give any vibes of being anything more than friendly scuffle between two rival crews.
Honestly think the most wild thing is the disrespect people are already trying to throw Rayleigh's way because they can't understand something as simple as Roger interfering with the Oden clash was just him being greedy and showing a little bit of his character. Rayleigh's portrayal is still some of the best in the series at this point and shouldn't be devalued because of some battle that didn't give any vibes of being anything more than friendly scuffle between two rival crews.
My answer about the previous discussion on the spoiler thread:
Thanks for confirming my point, literally.
Once again: Unless you also believe that Roger is taking a photo shooting, this panel makes it clear that he uses every weapon as a tool to extend his combat skills.
Next.
Yeah, during a single clash and when he attacked Oden, and so?
Big Mom has a named sword attack as well, can we also say that Big Mom is a swordsman?
...Nope, I'll stop asking that. At the end, people could seriously think Big Mom is a swordsman as well, lol.
Yeah, and he used AdCoA to clash with WB without even making a physical contact.
Nope: Moreover, the OP lore obviously would have mentioned an important fact like that at least ONCE -> Roger being a swordsman -> the previous WSS -> Mihawk the next WSS and thus, Roger's successor.
But: Mihawk wasn't portrayed to be on par with Roger or Whitebeard...
Yeah, that's my point!
You guys are basing Roger's entire fighting style on a single clash when he fought against WB but we neither know whether Roger used other tools against Roger or if he just fought him with a sword.
And here we have people buying this single panel as an "ultimate proof" for Roger being a swordsman. C'mon, that's silly.
You are allowed to do so; you're just confirming my arguments even more.
Once again: Unless you also believe that Roger is taking a photo shooting, this panel makes it clear that he uses every weapon as a tool to extend his combat skills.
Next.
Dude, Roger was literally about to clash with Shiki and Co, another big guy - and he used a sword AND a gun.
You know, being delusional cannot even describe the amount of bias here, that's how ridiculous your arguments are.
It's a fact that Zoro can perform his swordsmanship even without swords and furthermore, there was no real confrontation between Zoro and Dellinger whereas we have a full panel of information in which we can clearly see in the middle of the war where Roger and Co were ALREADY fighting Shiki and Co.
Thus, Roger had NO REASONS to hold back during this war, especially if we consider the possibility that Roger lost plenty of his crewmates as well.
Now that you mention it that I get this or not: totally. But unfortunately, I cannot say the same against you guys since you're often missing the point by coming up with misleaded instances which cannot be compared to this Roger vs Shiki clash.
Yeah, it's really okay dude; you guys just have to accept that Oda doesn't care at all about your entire Zoro narrative, at least when it comes to legends like Primebeard and Roger.
Must hurt knowing that your supposed "proof" is nothing but a misinterpreted panel, right?
Immalva... eh anyway, dude, Roger didn't just hold a gun to make a freaking pose, lol.
It's certainly that Roger has gunner skills as well, otherwise he wouldn't even think about using a weapon which does not fit to him.
He's neither the best gunner nor the best swordsman, whatsover - he's simply an allrounder proficient with a lot of weapons as he proved at this chapter.
Facts and arguments*
It seems so; at least we can definitely say that Roger is also proficient in other weapons which requires gunner skills.
So you think it's a good possibility that Roger pummeled Garp with a barrage of fists, right? Then why do you say this:
???
No, for now Roger can be classified as a gunner or a swordsman but in fact, neither the OP lore (read above) nor a single statement mentioned something about him being a swordsman.
Sure if Roger fits this criteria: Moreover, the OP lore obviously would have mentioned an important fact like that at least ONCE -> Roger being a swordsman -> the previous WSS -> Mihawk the next WSS and thus, Roger's successor.
But: Mihawk wasn't portrayed to be on par with Roger or Whitebeard...
And since this is not the case at all, I don't have to accept any shit here. Funnily enough that you guys are trying to push your Zoro narrative onto people who do not buy this fanfiction yet.
Thanks for confirming my point, literally.
Once again: Unless you also believe that Roger is taking a photo shooting, this panel makes it clear that he uses every weapon as a tool to extend his combat skills.
Next.
Yeah, during a single clash and when he attacked Oden, and so?
Big Mom has a named sword attack as well, can we also say that Big Mom is a swordsman?
...Nope, I'll stop asking that. At the end, people could seriously think Big Mom is a swordsman as well, lol.
Yeah, and he used AdCoA to clash with WB without even making a physical contact.
Nope: Moreover, the OP lore obviously would have mentioned an important fact like that at least ONCE -> Roger being a swordsman -> the previous WSS -> Mihawk the next WSS and thus, Roger's successor.
But: Mihawk wasn't portrayed to be on par with Roger or Whitebeard...
Yeah, that's my point!
You guys are basing Roger's entire fighting style on a single clash when he fought against WB but we neither know whether Roger used other tools against Roger or if he just fought him with a sword.
And here we have people buying this single panel as an "ultimate proof" for Roger being a swordsman. C'mon, that's silly.
You are allowed to do so; you're just confirming my arguments even more.
Once again: Unless you also believe that Roger is taking a photo shooting, this panel makes it clear that he uses every weapon as a tool to extend his combat skills.
Next.
Dude, Roger was literally about to clash with Shiki and Co, another big guy - and he used a sword AND a gun.
You know, being delusional cannot even describe the amount of bias here, that's how ridiculous your arguments are.
It's a fact that Zoro can perform his swordsmanship even without swords and furthermore, there was no real confrontation between Zoro and Dellinger whereas we have a full panel of information in which we can clearly see in the middle of the war where Roger and Co were ALREADY fighting Shiki and Co.
Thus, Roger had NO REASONS to hold back during this war, especially if we consider the possibility that Roger lost plenty of his crewmates as well.
Now that you mention it that I get this or not: totally. But unfortunately, I cannot say the same against you guys since you're often missing the point by coming up with misleaded instances which cannot be compared to this Roger vs Shiki clash.
Yeah, it's really okay dude; you guys just have to accept that Oda doesn't care at all about your entire Zoro narrative, at least when it comes to legends like Primebeard and Roger.
Must hurt knowing that your supposed "proof" is nothing but a misinterpreted panel, right?
Immalva... eh anyway, dude, Roger didn't just hold a gun to make a freaking pose, lol.
It's certainly that Roger has gunner skills as well, otherwise he wouldn't even think about using a weapon which does not fit to him.
He's neither the best gunner nor the best swordsman, whatsover - he's simply an allrounder proficient with a lot of weapons as he proved at this chapter.
Facts and arguments*
It seems so; at least we can definitely say that Roger is also proficient in other weapons which requires gunner skills.
So you think it's a good possibility that Roger pummeled Garp with a barrage of fists, right? Then why do you say this:
???
No, for now Roger can be classified as a gunner or a swordsman but in fact, neither the OP lore (read above) nor a single statement mentioned something about him being a swordsman.
Sure if Roger fits this criteria: Moreover, the OP lore obviously would have mentioned an important fact like that at least ONCE -> Roger being a swordsman -> the previous WSS -> Mihawk the next WSS and thus, Roger's successor.
But: Mihawk wasn't portrayed to be on par with Roger or Whitebeard...
And since this is not the case at all, I don't have to accept any shit here. Funnily enough that you guys are trying to push your Zoro narrative onto people who do not buy this fanfiction yet.
Big Mom was also seen with a gun when she was in Xebec's crew. Big Mom is also seen beating the shit out of castle-Bege with her fists, and she also threw Queen around with brute force. Imagine Mihawk randomly engaging in a fist fight or using guns against strong opponents. Neither Big Mom nor Roger are swordsmen. Swords are just their weapon of choice.
I dont get it ???
This chapter doesnt show Rayleigh is inferior to Akainu
The Wbp are a bigger pirat group than the Roger pirates
I dont get the akainu hype he just took the chance to sneaky attack heartattacking whitebeard who couldnt even use haki properly lol prime beard would two shot akainu on the spot and eat him at breakfast
there is a reason Oda downgraded WB in MF
This chapter doesnt show Rayleigh is inferior to Akainu
The Wbp are a bigger pirat group than the Roger pirates
I dont get the akainu hype he just took the chance to sneaky attack heartattacking whitebeard who couldnt even use haki properly lol prime beard would two shot akainu on the spot and eat him at breakfast
there is a reason Oda downgraded WB in MF
There are different possibilities. Oda likes to emphasize opposites and the clash of philosophies, it works better with the WG and Luffy right now than with BB. And now with dreamer vs cant dream, even worse.
People have done that with shanks for years, people need to make up their mind.
Becausr we have seen him as much as roger fighting, so....
That ever thing was corrected by stephen, as many things fron the early translations.
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People have done that with shanks for years, people need to make up their mind.
Becausr we have seen him as much as roger fighting, so....
That ever thing was corrected by stephen, as many things fron the early translations.
Has your brain ever encountered the possibility of Roger being the greatest swordsman of his era without having the title WSS? 
But you saying Roger isnt a swordsman based on 1 panel where he isnt fighting anyone is better?
Again, Roger just dealt with Oden and Whitebeard, who is his strongest opponent, with a sword. That ends your headcanon.
There is no Roger vs Shiki clash. It doesnt exist. There is Roger on his ship and Shiki on his ship, no Roger and Shiki in same panel.
Yes, it obviously does since he has nothing else. When you take on the strongest with a sword, means that's your best way of fighting him. Error 404: Gun not found.
LoL, do entertain me more. Do you see Zoro giving a single fuck about surpassing Ryuma? The only fuck he gives is about surpassing Mihawk despite wanting to be the best EVER. Should tell you something. 
But you saying Roger isnt a swordsman based on 1 panel where he isnt fighting anyone is better?
Again, Roger just dealt with Oden and Whitebeard, who is his strongest opponent, with a sword. That ends your headcanon.
There is no Roger vs Shiki clash. It doesnt exist. There is Roger on his ship and Shiki on his ship, no Roger and Shiki in same panel.
Yes, it obviously does since he has nothing else. When you take on the strongest with a sword, means that's your best way of fighting him. Error 404: Gun not found.
LoL, do entertain me more.
Do you see Zoro giving a single fuck about surpassing Ryuma? The only fuck he gives is about surpassing Mihawk despite wanting to be the best EVER. Should tell you something. 
And that is where the problem stems from. This wasn't how it was represented in the past.
Buggy:"Whitebeard is the only man Who fought Roger and lived".Showing the ruthlessness of Roger
WB to Shanks :"when I look at your face it make my scar(s) ache. The scar(s) I got from him."
The middle scar of WB has been suggested to been from fighting Roger,as he doesn't have it young,but he has it when talking to Shiki.
Just a retcon at this point,because Oda wants xebec to be considered the biggest rival of Roger.
Buggy:"Whitebeard is the only man Who fought Roger and lived".Showing the ruthlessness of Roger
WB to Shanks :"when I look at your face it make my scar(s) ache. The scar(s) I got from him."
The middle scar of WB has been suggested to been from fighting Roger,as he doesn't have it young,but he has it when talking to Shiki.
Just a retcon at this point,because Oda wants xebec to be considered the biggest rival of Roger.
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