Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1034 Spoilers Discussion
- Thread starter Gol D. Roger
- Start date
- Tags #judge's friend vs judge's son #king>>>who's who>>>queen #queen>>>marco>>>king #sora cheated #sora was passed around #ulti is best girl #wanji bodies your fav #yamato4nakama #zoro bodies your fave queen best commander queen greatness queen>katakuri queen>marco read jujutsu kaisen read record of ragnarok sanji greatness sanji vs queen sanji vs queen hype wanji greatness wanji hype
- Status
Any one who tried lump me with @AdmiralKinyagi guy thing is idiot or try slander me. Because I have my own opinions and better explanation for admirals except Fujitora -(Admiralkinyagi is expert on it) I am the expert of color trio admirals.
And I wank admirals the right way
And I wank admirals the right way
What do you think Zoro ACoC moves will look like?
Part of me wants to see Zoro in a new form/condition b/c, as much as I love Ashura, it's not something he uses a lot and it's not really a form that he just sustains while he fights
Like post-ts Sanji kinda can just spam diable jambe and Luffy spams g2/g3
Part of me wants to see Zoro in a new form/condition b/c, as much as I love Ashura, it's not something he uses a lot and it's not really a form that he just sustains while he fights
Like post-ts Sanji kinda can just spam diable jambe and Luffy spams g2/g3
I am not a Sanjitard, I am a Luffy fan and I don't go around using Luffy to shit on Zoro like Zorotards even if Luffy is stronger than him. We aren't the same so trying to bring me down to your level is futile.
There are people agreeing with my posts and it as a good start to cleanse the forum off toxic users like you. M0nst3rx getting banned was also a positive movement forward, only shame is that he isn't permabanned.
Now you on the other hand keeping your mouth shut wouldn't be meaningless because it would actually promote more positivity with one more toxic user silenced.
There are people agreeing with my posts and it as a good start to cleanse the forum off toxic users like you. M0nst3rx getting banned was also a positive movement forward, only shame is that he isn't permabanned.
Now you on the other hand keeping your mouth shut wouldn't be meaningless because it would actually promote more positivity with one more toxic user silenced.
Last edited:
A trend I am noticing is that the Monster Trio each would possibly be defeating their opponents in this arc with Fire related abilities to signify the "Sun God" theme in Wano with all those foreshadowings. I also think that Zoro's key to defeating King could very possibly be Foxstyle to counter his flames.
Just to give a bit of perspective, here are some of my thoughts on Queen for those that might be a bit disappointed with him:
With regards to Queen, to summarize in my own way, I think there are 3 main reasons why he might feel bit underwhelming to some.
- How his bounty compares to King.
The fact that their bounties are close gives off the impression that they are close strength wise but King's combat showings have been a lot more impressive than Queen hence why Queen looks underwhelming. But the first reason for this is that Sanji atm particularly with his current buffs is an awful matchup for Queen. Outta of all the high tiers atm, Sanji has some of the best base stats. Any commander that doesn't have either some sorta hax or durability is gonna get wrecked by him. Only 2nd Commander that I feel would put up a balanced fight against him is Jozu. On the other hand, in the same vein that Sanji is an awful matchup for Queen, King is an awful matchup for Zoro. So the matchup itself and the sheer martial strength of Queen and Zoro's opponents in comparison to them is the reason why they are being overwhelmed the way they are.
- Expectation vs Reality.
There is an implicit assumption that King and Queen are the same type of fighters, so we are holding both to the same standard which is one of the main causes of our disappointment with Queen.
King is full blooded combatant that has even be dubbed a "killing machine". This is someone that seems to have absorbed tons of martial arts and uses his own hybrid style where as Queen on the other is a bloody strong "scientist". Queen's threat comes from his "science" not his "martial skills". You'd see that most of the criticism that people haul at Queen is qualms about his martial skills. For instance, "he's too slow!", "all he can do is shoot lasers etc!". But keep in mind here again that matchup is very important. Right now, Sanji is as bloody strong martial artist that is also a speedster. To put tings into perspective, even the lasers these critics are looking down on with Queen are even more impressive than the catapult lazer ting King does with his head as Queen can use rapid fire with his lazer attacks hence making them a lot harder to evade. King's attack might hit someone like Zoro who is more of a tank type but it won't even hit Sanji's shadow. Not sleeping on Zoro's speed here as he's not really a slow character but Sanji is a lot more mobile than he is.
- Lack of lethality from Queen as opposed to King
As impressive and versatile as Queen's attacks are, none of them save his Bracoil Hold were lethal to Sanji and even that was countered by Sanji's exoskeleton awaekning. Whereas most of King's attacks have been lethal to Zoro. Again it is important to note that Sanji is currently the most durable character in the alliance atm, so Queen is effectively fighting a pseudo Dino of sorts hence why the damage Sanji has taken from those attacks have been minimal. So physical attacks for the most part aren't gonna have as much of an effect on Sanji as they'd have on Zoro for instance.
And this lack of lethality is what really sets people like Donflamingo, Katakuri, King etc. apart from Queen
All that said, there is really nothing we can do about the first two aforementioned points, it is what It is, people just have to try to be a little more objective. I was bit irritated myself but after giving it some thought I've come to terms with it. That said, something can still be done about the final "lethality" point if Oda allows Queen to use his plagues the way we know he can. As even if physical attacks might not work on Sanji, biowarfare certainly should. And on this point, Queen is even more lethal than any of the other Yonko Commanders imo. This is one of the perks of Sanji fighting a mad scientist as opposed to a true and true martial artist.
With regards to Queen, to summarize in my own way, I think there are 3 main reasons why he might feel bit underwhelming to some.
- How his bounty compares to King.
The fact that their bounties are close gives off the impression that they are close strength wise but King's combat showings have been a lot more impressive than Queen hence why Queen looks underwhelming. But the first reason for this is that Sanji atm particularly with his current buffs is an awful matchup for Queen. Outta of all the high tiers atm, Sanji has some of the best base stats. Any commander that doesn't have either some sorta hax or durability is gonna get wrecked by him. Only 2nd Commander that I feel would put up a balanced fight against him is Jozu. On the other hand, in the same vein that Sanji is an awful matchup for Queen, King is an awful matchup for Zoro. So the matchup itself and the sheer martial strength of Queen and Zoro's opponents in comparison to them is the reason why they are being overwhelmed the way they are.
- Expectation vs Reality.
There is an implicit assumption that King and Queen are the same type of fighters, so we are holding both to the same standard which is one of the main causes of our disappointment with Queen.
King is full blooded combatant that has even be dubbed a "killing machine". This is someone that seems to have absorbed tons of martial arts and uses his own hybrid style where as Queen on the other is a bloody strong "scientist". Queen's threat comes from his "science" not his "martial skills". You'd see that most of the criticism that people haul at Queen is qualms about his martial skills. For instance, "he's too slow!", "all he can do is shoot lasers etc!". But keep in mind here again that matchup is very important. Right now, Sanji is as bloody strong martial artist that is also a speedster. To put tings into perspective, even the lasers these critics are looking down on with Queen are even more impressive than the catapult lazer ting King does with his head as Queen can use rapid fire with his lazer attacks hence making them a lot harder to evade. King's attack might hit someone like Zoro who is more of a tank type but it won't even hit Sanji's shadow. Not sleeping on Zoro's speed here as he's not really a slow character but Sanji is a lot more mobile than he is.
- Lack of lethality from Queen as opposed to King
As impressive and versatile as Queen's attacks are, none of them save his Bracoil Hold were lethal to Sanji and even that was countered by Sanji's exoskeleton awaekning. Whereas most of King's attacks have been lethal to Zoro. Again it is important to note that Sanji is currently the most durable character in the alliance atm, so Queen is effectively fighting a pseudo Dino of sorts hence why the damage Sanji has taken from those attacks have been minimal. So physical attacks for the most part aren't gonna have as much of an effect on Sanji as they'd have on Zoro for instance.
And this lack of lethality is what really sets people like Donflamingo, Katakuri, King etc. apart from Queen
All that said, there is really nothing we can do about the first two aforementioned points, it is what It is, people just have to try to be a little more objective. I was bit irritated myself but after giving it some thought I've come to terms with it. That said, something can still be done about the final "lethality" point if Oda allows Queen to use his plagues the way we know he can. As even if physical attacks might not work on Sanji, biowarfare certainly should. And on this point, Queen is even more lethal than any of the other Yonko Commanders imo. This is one of the perks of Sanji fighting a mad scientist as opposed to a true and true martial artist.
Zoro never had any mode. One can say Asura but Asura is more linked with CoC to me and any developments regarding it will be reserved for future.
Luffy has time limit for Gears because haki drains a lot. But as he will progress, time duration will increase.
Zoro is coating all of his swords with CoC which he recently unlocked so it will be very draining too and I don't think he will be able to sustain this for long at least not for now.
So I am not expecting a mode but new set of moves with new names against king.
Luffy has time limit for Gears because haki drains a lot. But as he will progress, time duration will increase.
Zoro is coating all of his swords with CoC which he recently unlocked so it will be very draining too and I don't think he will be able to sustain this for long at least not for now.
So I am not expecting a mode but new set of moves with new names against king.
Lmao he used it to protect his leg. The spoiler sections right there. Go read it. Sure it added a little but it wasn't the main focus
I don't care about your shit tier headcanon:laughmoji:
Ima choose the authors own personal storyline in which he put zoro at half of luffys strength. Trying to pretend otherwise is hilarious. Your headcanon is easily refuted but arguing with a simpleton such as you would be fruitless. I mean you can't even comprehend the story you're reading.
I wonder why Loda made an arc with a literal powerscale using numbers... just to have a worst gen zoLo tard say that the authors wrong
Stop quoting me. The copium reeks from here.
Post automatically merged:
BillSlipton Zoro is not half the strength of Luffy, your the only person in this forum that believes that nonsense. Zoro and luffy both have Ryuo + Conquerors Haki Infusion the same damn ability. Luffys just a bit more proficient with the conquerors Zoro already had ryuo its a swordsman technique.
Luffys 100 and Zoro's 93 he's not far from Luffy never has been, Sanji is a 80 until he significantly damages a top tier. 80 is not bad anyways .
And remember No matter what you believe these panels will always Exist.......
Luffys 100 and Zoro's 93 he's not far from Luffy never has been, Sanji is a 80 until he significantly damages a top tier. 80 is not bad anyways .
And remember No matter what you believe these panels will always Exist.......
Ima choose the authors own personal storyline in which he put zoro at half of luffys strength. Trying to pretend otherwise is hilarious. Your headcanon is easily refuted but arguing with a simpleton such as you would be fruitless. I mean you can't even comprehend the story you're reading.
I wonder why Loda made an arc with a literal powerscale using numbers... just to have a worst gen zoLo tard say that the authors wrong
Stop quoting me. The copium reeks from here.
Last edited:
doriki is like the punching machine at the arcade. if you think punching something and getting a number back tells you how good you are at fighting and winning fights.....
doriki explicitly only measures physical ability, so haki, devil fruits, martial arts, etc, none of them are considered.
the existence of doriki is a joke, fukurou is a joke, measuring it by being hit is a joke, and you're looking like a joke too
doriki explicitly only measures physical ability, so haki, devil fruits, martial arts, etc, none of them are considered.the existence of doriki is a joke, fukurou is a joke, measuring it by being hit is a joke, and you're looking like a joke too
Idk why you brought that up... Loda didn't make them physically the same just to not show us very damn clearly in the manga that their skill is equal.
Keep coping we all know the truth. Sanji while extremely injured is zoros equal
- Status