Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Sword God Ryuma]

So people believed in a lie for years, right?
Thanks 👍

Yep they did with Whitebeard. So you going to post the panel of Mihawk being sick? Vivrecard says in Name and Actuality cleared it up for dummies like you

 

[Ashish]

Okay guys bye it was a fun time

 

[Neogylol]

Lol what will happen to worst gen in 4-5 years, the discussions might be either 10x'd or halved

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

He became an emperor years after losing his arm which then prevented any further duel with Mihawk because the later refuses lol

Who did Saint Shanks beat to gain this Yonkou status?

 

[Shasha23]

Okay guys bye it was a fun time

It was a pleasure educating you on basic concepts :cheers:

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Zoro uses swordsmenship imbued coc. Saint Shanks coc can harm a top tier outside of swordsmanship. I really don’t care tho, with fuji not being in the dialogue he’s not a swordsmen that’s all that matters to marine hype making mihawk run

Zoro uses his raw physical strength and Haki to fuel his swordsmanship to become a stronger swordsman. That's literally how any swordsman in the world even functions. Reducing it to skill only is as wrong as it can get. You need both skill and power to become the WSS. Fujitora is a swordsman and no amount of mental gymnastics is gonna change it too.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Mihawk is the strongest because his swordsmanship surpasses that of the 2nd strongest swordsman.
It's 2 sentences, read them. Whatever version of fire cutting, Asura, burning swords, CoC coated flying slashes, FS coated sword Mihawk has, it's better than Saint Shanks. And their close bounties already gives them a Roger/WB like parallel.

 

[Ashish]

It was a pleasure educating you on basic concepts :cheers:

Thanks teacher

 

[Reborn]

This is laughably wrong and your internet translator isn't changing it

Even in the shit japanese dictionary you linked, true strength/use of force is an alternative meaning

Context matters when determining a words meaning and we know for a fact that Kaido's crew is based around raw power, that's entirely how the hierarchy is determined and the way they move up is by being stronger than a Calamity and beating them

Stephen Paul is a dogshit translator and is largely the reason why Viz is laughed at for accuracy

Are you trying to say that you know more about stuffs than the professional who is actually the official translator ?

What next? Doubt oda too to put Saint Shanks above Mihawk lol

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Idk sulong dukes have amazing portrayal

Beating orochi isn't really a stength feat. He definitely deserved to the most out of any other scabbard at least

yeah most of the scabbards could take him
the point is they leave the important villain for the strongest.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Your entire existence here is shit posting and "stronger than" posts on peoples profile, don't even try and take a high stance.

Me:

You:

 

[uyuu]

it does
its wb roger again
one the wsm ( individual strength) and the other has the more prestigious title as a pirate ( pirate king )

safe bet is ideally they both are about even.

Saint Shanks has Oda self-insert at his back giving him an edge 4th wall hype

 

[Strawhats Bible]

There is little room for doubts here. WB was the strongest in actuality. WB growing weaker won't make his title fake because no one actually came close to WB. The same applies to Mihawk except for the fact that we have little to no reason to believe Mihawk grew weaker. So he remains the strongest as long as no one surpasses his accomplishments.

I don't see why Mihawk not fighting Saint Shanks even matters when everyone and their mothers know Mihawk is better. It's not like Saint Shanks is living under a rock. He's been far more active than Mihawk in the past decade but the world still views Mihawk as superior. Not to mention, Zoro's entire dream becomes void if Mihawk isn't the WSM in actuality. And we all know that won't happen.

No Whitebeard wasn't the strongest pirate anymore, and there is no doubt here lol.
Big Mom, Kaido and Saint Shanks were all stronger than him by the time Marineford took place.


Again I am not doubting Mihawks title I am saying it has poor world building around it and which is why so many people here tend to sometimes straight up ignore his title.

 

[Ryuarashi]

You mean oda callling Saint Shanks a swordsman saying mihawk is more skilled and then saying mihawk is the strongest?? And you can’t connect the dots 💀💀I don’t blame oda I’m blame who ever your teacher was with that piss poor reading comprehension 😆

Yeah, only Mihawks fans are able to read and comprehen

Just so happens for that to be the case.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

This is laughably wrong and your internet translator isn't changing it

Even in the shit japanese dictionary you linked, true strength/use of force is an alternative meaning

Context matters when determining a words meaning and we know for a fact that Kaido's crew is based around raw power, that's entirely how the hierarchy is determined and the way they move up is by being stronger than a Calamity and beating them

Stephen Paul is a dogshit translator and is largely the reason why Viz is laughed at for accuracy

This is the most arrogant thing I've read today and I've seen plenty of bs comments.

 

[GoldDiamond]

Zoro uses his raw physical strength and Haki to fuel his swordsmanship to become a stronger swordsman. That's literally how any swordsman in the world even functions. Reducing it to skill only is as wrong as it can get. You need both skill and power to become the WSS

Agree, he uses it on his swordsmanship, obviously you need power but their power is skill.

Fujitora is a swordsman and no amount of mental gymnastics is gonna change it too.

Whatever makes you happy but I’m going with oda words on this one no swordsmanship technique

 

[SkySanji]

Are you trying to say that you know more about stuffs than the professional who is actually the official translator of viz

What next? Doubt oda too to put Saint Shanks above Mihawk lol

Being a professional doesn't make you infallible

And no, I never said I was better than Stephen Paul, but it's factual that he mistranslates a lot of shit and is actually notorious for doing so, the raw Japanese should always be taken over Stephen Paul's translations.

And again, I don't give a fuck if Mihawk is > Saint Shanks as long as it's accurate, not when it's a statement of skill that people are trying to misconstrue into power like in this chapter.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Yeah, only Mihawks fans are able to read and comprehen

Just so happens for that to be the case.

Sadly yes

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I know mihawk fans want to ignore this , but him saying the marines fleets were a lot of work legit hypes the marines no matter how you look at it.

Damn, @Erkan12 you know I was sort of joking when I pointed out how Doberman was not afraid of Saint Shanks, but Saint Shanks’ superior stating that a Marine Fleet consisting of zero Admirals was a lot of work for him really solidifies the idea of Saint Shanks being Vice Admiral level at maximum tbh. No trolling.

 

[Levi]

Saint Shanks fans love taking Ls y’all better pray he doesn't have acoc Saint Shanks spamming his 24/7 everywhere while mihawk doenst even need it 🤣pray he doesn't have it