One Piece Chapter 1069: We Owe All There Is To Desire!!
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Glad at least it's differentiated that being able to control the awakening unlile the jailer beast is an entirely different animal, which sets Lucci appart. Which is likely linked with haki.
At least we are gonna say goodbye to static power levels with this. Wanna see what Crocodile would do with more advancements of his fruit, or iron sand with strengthened CoA.
Enel might have awakened, or use machinery to power up with his lightning logia. His Amaru form but with cybernetic enhancements.
At least we are gonna say goodbye to static power levels with this. Wanna see what Crocodile would do with more advancements of his fruit, or iron sand with strengthened CoA.
Enel might have awakened, or use machinery to power up with his lightning logia. His Amaru form but with cybernetic enhancements.
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Delusional lmao. I panicked in Wano? Zoro fought King, as I expected him to. Luffy fought and beat Kaido, as expected.
Sounds like you are the one panicking Lik. Go ahead make 50 more posts about ZKK (Kaido=Kizaru) as your coping mechanism
Sounds like you are the one panicking Lik. Go ahead make 50 more posts about ZKK (Kaido=Kizaru) as your coping mechanism
Dont pretend like you didnt panic when Zoro's foot stepped on the dome.
Zoro fought Kaido, Zoro cut Kaido up, Zoro scarred Kaido and saved Luffy 7 times while fighting 2 Emperors.
Luffy didnt beat Kaido. A combined effort of 15 people has beaten Kaido. Luffy just delivered the last hit.
I hope you are aware that he still isnt capable of beating Kaido. Or are you?
And, once again, tell me what is the build-up between Luffy and Kizaru?
I still remember how excited you were about Zoro leaving the rooftop.
Dont pretend like you didnt panic when Zoro's foot stepped on the dome.
Zoro fought Kaido, Zoro cut Kaido up, Zoro scarred Kaido and saved Luffy 7 times while fighting 2 Emperors.
Luffy didnt beat Kaido. A combined effort of 15 people has beaten Kaido. Luffy just delivered the last hit.
I hope you are aware that he still isnt capable of beating Kaido. Or are you?
And, once again, tell me what is the build-up between Luffy and Kizaru?
Dont pretend like you didnt panic when Zoro's foot stepped on the dome.
Zoro fought Kaido, Zoro cut Kaido up, Zoro scarred Kaido and saved Luffy 7 times while fighting 2 Emperors.
Luffy didnt beat Kaido. A combined effort of 15 people has beaten Kaido. Luffy just delivered the last hit.
I hope you are aware that he still isnt capable of beating Kaido. Or are you?
And, once again, tell me what is the build-up between Luffy and Kizaru?
We are done with this nonsense Lik
"Wealth, fame and power" is what Roger, the Pirate King, achieved. What triggered the overreaching plot of this story was his treasure and wanting to find it. One is describing the guy and the other what people want from him. Big difference.
Zoro aims at becoming the strongest swordsman, one profile of fighter. Luffy aims at becoming the strongest overall.
Luffy's job in the crew is to defeat the main threat and so he has been doing for decades. Zoro hasn't done that since Morgan, who wasn't a threat for Luffy to begin with.
Luffy's future title is described as the conqueror atop conquerors, a power that grows stronger the stronger the user is.
Not rocket science, buddy.
I'm the smart one who understands the simple message of Luffy > Zoro, dumbass. Oda made it quite clear when he built a systemic crew where each member has a distinctive role they excel at and Luffy was given the role of defeating the big bad. If Luffy isn't the only one capable of defeating the strongest foe, then he has no role of his own, then the whole speech in Arlong Park describing the crew's dynamics loses its whole purpose.
You're completely lost because you believe Zoro is stronger, so from the start you're a waste of a mind.
I'll just repeat:
-Quote me when Whitebeard and Kaidou were the conquerors atop conquerors, meaning they were at the top of a power that grows alongside the user's own strength.
-Quote me when Roger is hyped as the only one capable of fighting Whitebeard and not the other way around.
-Quote me when Oden loses his shit from witnessing Whitebeard's power after experiencing Roger's and not the other way around.
-Quote me when Kaidou uses Whitebeard (or himself, for the matter) as example of the person who conquered the world and had the power that surpasses every other.
Roger was clearly stronger than Whitebeard and certainly than Kaidou. He was their king, the man who achieved wealth, fame... and power. And THIS is the unavoidable fact; only because you jerk off with titles that hold more narrative value than literal weight doesn't mean I have to do the same when everytime the chance has been given, Roger has been hyped up to the sky and beyond.
Yes, and Luffy wants the title not for the fame, the wealth not the power but the freedom; and so far he has shown no interest on being famous (actually the contrary), nor on becoming rich (hence Nami scolding him on it), BUT on becoming the strongest in the world. THIS, unlike fame, unlike wealth, is a constant on his character since he was a kid and we've been told more than once that he wants to become the most powerful person so he can protect everybody.
Do YOU understand that?
Rooftop happened and it had Kaidou seeing the strongest people in Luffy while he barely acknowledged Zoro.
Luffy is the one who defeated Kaidou; the only one explicitly stated to be capable of such thing, by the way. Zoro? Second fiddle as usual. Call me when a scar on Kaidou is more impressive than making him go all out and putting him down for real.
Zoro didn't school anybody. He failed against Kaidou and the impression he made on him was far under the one Luffy did.
Luffy doesn't need to destroy scales, buddy; he hits the inners directly. And the Zoro who scarred Kaidou can't defeat him either.
Yeah, the millions of Luffy fans agreed on that, sure; especially after witnessing how Kaidou hyped Luffy up to the top of the world instead of Zoro.
I didn't sweat at all, I even addressed it as an interesting scenario for a different story but not for this one knowing how Oda works (you will find my posts if you want). He wasn't stripping Luffy from his greatest victory in the New World nor drawing Zoro killing a person in such a gruesome way. And certainly ZKK reached a point it was just borderline cultism full of dumb arguments like that of the blue dragon bowl Zoro was eating from.
And what that noname's tweet doesn't contain is actual evidence of Luffy, Nami and Zoro representing what Roger achieved. Which is where your take fails at.
But their actions match, buddy. At the end of the day he was addressed as the only one capable of defeating Kaidou and so he did. At the end of the day he's the one with the role of taking Arlong down. At the end of the day he's the one taking care of the main threat. At the end of the day he's the one who will become the conqueror atop conquerors. At the end of the day he's the one stressed more than once to aim at becoming the strongest in the whole world to protect everybody else.
At the end of the day, Luffy's actions are driving him to the top while Zoro keeps feeding on secondary threats. So cut the crap, please. The difference between Luffy and Zoro is that Zoro wouldn't have come back seven times and finally defeated Kaidou because he isn't powerful enough to achieve it; THAT'S the difference.
Pretty sure people will buy my arguments more than yours, mister "You fool only yourself with those lies and Zoro is stronger".
But please, conciliate those titles (Whitebeard had it before Roger's peak and after, by the way; yet he was completely overshadowed) with Roger receiving all the actual hype and being the supreme conqueror (a power that grows with individual strength). I'd love to see it, or you poor soul only have titles? But as far as I remind Whitebeard's strength wasn't hyped by mentioning his title but stating he was the only one capable of putting a fight against Roger and the closest man to Roger's achievement? But as far as I remind Kaidou himself used Roger to exemplify the strongest power that made him conquer the world? B-but...?
"King" in Luffy's head refers to Pirate King as the person with the most freedom. That's what Luffy cares about, not fame. When Oda writes "king" in Luffy's mind he's referring his goal of achieving absolute freedom. THAT's the basic here, you idiot; Luffy couldn't give less shits about fame...
...but he does care about becoming stronger, the strongest in the world in fact, in order to protect everybody; so nobody else threatens the freedom of people (the type of people that opposed freedom and "killed" Sabo for it, whose "death" made Luffy want to become the stronger in the first place).
If YOU can't see that Luffy's ideal of freedom as what becoming the Pirate King would give him links to growing into the strongest person to protect people from those who oppose freedom, then YOU are the dumbass who didn't figure the basics in 25 years.
(Considering that you're dumb enough to think that Oda is writing Luffy stating he'll become the strongest more than once because he actually doesn't intend to make Luffy the strongest).
Fucking demented. Period.
Zoro aims at becoming the strongest swordsman, one profile of fighter. Luffy aims at becoming the strongest overall.
Luffy's job in the crew is to defeat the main threat and so he has been doing for decades. Zoro hasn't done that since Morgan, who wasn't a threat for Luffy to begin with.
Luffy's future title is described as the conqueror atop conquerors, a power that grows stronger the stronger the user is.
Not rocket science, buddy.
I'm the smart one who understands the simple message of Luffy > Zoro, dumbass. Oda made it quite clear when he built a systemic crew where each member has a distinctive role they excel at and Luffy was given the role of defeating the big bad. If Luffy isn't the only one capable of defeating the strongest foe, then he has no role of his own, then the whole speech in Arlong Park describing the crew's dynamics loses its whole purpose.
You're completely lost because you believe Zoro is stronger, so from the start you're a waste of a mind.
I'll just repeat:
-Quote me when Whitebeard and Kaidou were the conquerors atop conquerors, meaning they were at the top of a power that grows alongside the user's own strength.
-Quote me when Roger is hyped as the only one capable of fighting Whitebeard and not the other way around.
-Quote me when Oden loses his shit from witnessing Whitebeard's power after experiencing Roger's and not the other way around.
-Quote me when Kaidou uses Whitebeard (or himself, for the matter) as example of the person who conquered the world and had the power that surpasses every other.
Roger was clearly stronger than Whitebeard and certainly than Kaidou. He was their king, the man who achieved wealth, fame... and power. And THIS is the unavoidable fact; only because you jerk off with titles that hold more narrative value than literal weight doesn't mean I have to do the same when everytime the chance has been given, Roger has been hyped up to the sky and beyond.
Yes, and Luffy wants the title not for the fame, the wealth not the power but the freedom; and so far he has shown no interest on being famous (actually the contrary), nor on becoming rich (hence Nami scolding him on it), BUT on becoming the strongest in the world. THIS, unlike fame, unlike wealth, is a constant on his character since he was a kid and we've been told more than once that he wants to become the most powerful person so he can protect everybody.
Do YOU understand that?
Rooftop happened and it had Kaidou seeing the strongest people in Luffy while he barely acknowledged Zoro.
Luffy is the one who defeated Kaidou; the only one explicitly stated to be capable of such thing, by the way. Zoro? Second fiddle as usual. Call me when a scar on Kaidou is more impressive than making him go all out and putting him down for real.
How about the guy who beat Bonezs, Kakus, Picas schooling the guy who beat Crocs, Luccis, Doffys on rooftop?
Luffy doesn't need to destroy scales, buddy; he hits the inners directly. And the Zoro who scarred Kaidou can't defeat him either.
Yeah, the millions of Luffy fans agreed on that, sure; especially after witnessing how Kaidou hyped Luffy up to the top of the world instead of Zoro.
I would do them all over again because I am not pretending they dont exist, like yall do.
You didnt sweat 4 years for nothing. It is because you were aware of the build-up.
You didnt sweat 4 years for nothing. It is because you were aware of the build-up.
And what that noname's tweet doesn't contain is actual evidence of Luffy, Nami and Zoro representing what Roger achieved. Which is where your take fails at.
But their actions match, buddy. At the end of the day he was addressed as the only one capable of defeating Kaidou and so he did. At the end of the day he's the one with the role of taking Arlong down. At the end of the day he's the one taking care of the main threat. At the end of the day he's the one who will become the conqueror atop conquerors. At the end of the day he's the one stressed more than once to aim at becoming the strongest in the whole world to protect everybody else.
At the end of the day, Luffy's actions are driving him to the top while Zoro keeps feeding on secondary threats. So cut the crap, please. The difference between Luffy and Zoro is that Zoro wouldn't have come back seven times and finally defeated Kaidou because he isn't powerful enough to achieve it; THAT'S the difference.
Pretty sure people will buy my arguments more than yours, mister "You fool only yourself with those lies and Zoro is stronger".
But please, conciliate those titles (Whitebeard had it before Roger's peak and after, by the way; yet he was completely overshadowed) with Roger receiving all the actual hype and being the supreme conqueror (a power that grows with individual strength). I'd love to see it, or you poor soul only have titles? But as far as I remind Whitebeard's strength wasn't hyped by mentioning his title but stating he was the only one capable of putting a fight against Roger and the closest man to Roger's achievement? But as far as I remind Kaidou himself used Roger to exemplify the strongest power that made him conquer the world? B-but...?
"King" in Luffy's head refers to Pirate King as the person with the most freedom. That's what Luffy cares about, not fame. When Oda writes "king" in Luffy's mind he's referring his goal of achieving absolute freedom. THAT's the basic here, you idiot; Luffy couldn't give less shits about fame...
...but he does care about becoming stronger, the strongest in the world in fact, in order to protect everybody; so nobody else threatens the freedom of people (the type of people that opposed freedom and "killed" Sabo for it, whose "death" made Luffy want to become the stronger in the first place).
If YOU can't see that Luffy's ideal of freedom as what becoming the Pirate King would give him links to growing into the strongest person to protect people from those who oppose freedom, then YOU are the dumbass who didn't figure the basics in 25 years.
(Considering that you're dumb enough to think that Oda is writing Luffy stating he'll become the strongest more than once because he actually doesn't intend to make Luffy the strongest).
Fucking demented. Period.
