Chapter Discussion Admirals are slaves confirmed

#41
If you dont rate databooks, why do you believe that statement? Not only believe it, you are using it to prove Kizaru has CoC. Let Sengoku's CoC be proven first, then we will talk.

I find many databook statements ridiculous, Whitebeard was WSM during Roger's era, Ben Beckmann is as strong as Shanks, Vista has greater swordskill than Mihawk, and many others. Clearly, some Shuiesha staff is making this shit up.
Half the rhings you said wasn't even said in the databook
 
#42
Pinzoro did not choose to follow him, Luffy made him a deal about freeing him and he would become his subordinate and Pinzoro agreed without ever knowing anything about Luffy or his personality or anything.

Pinzoro literally had no choice but to suck the balls of a literal retarded manchild who had nothing going for him, who he knew for less than 5 minutes.

Meanwhile Kizaru reached the top of the power that controls the whole world and he only obeys people who rule the world while being their strongest fighter.

Pinzoro says a lot of things, yet he doesn't go through with his own words


Kek, remember this bitch saying telling Luffy to take things seriously, but 2 chapters later he sits around while not finishing Monet off and helping the crew? And then Monet almost nuked the island?


According to his own words, Pinzoro should've left the crew the moment Luffy took Sanji back to the crew without apologizing.
But that's Pinzoro for you, just empty words.
Chill out cringelord.
You act really tough for a candyboy.
 
#46
Pinzoro did not choose to follow him, Luffy made him a deal about freeing him and he would become his subordinate and Pinzoro agreed without ever knowing anything about Luffy or his personality or anything.

Pinzoro literally had no choice but to suck the balls of a literal retarded manchild who had nothing going for him, who he knew for less than 5 minutes.

Meanwhile Kizaru reached the top of the power that controls the whole world and he only obeys people who rule the world while being their strongest fighter.

Pinzoro says a lot of things, yet he doesn't go through with his own words


Kek, remember this bitch saying telling Luffy to take things seriously, but 2 chapters later he sits around while not finishing Monet off and helping the crew? And then Monet almost nuked the island?


According to his own words, Pinzoro should've left the crew the moment Luffy took Sanji back to the crew without apologizing.
But that's Pinzoro for you, just empty words.
Chadzoro:
- I will join you, as long as you don't interfere with my path
- If you forgive Usopp without him apologizing, I'm the one to leave

Kizaru, Greenbull and Sengoku: don't question your masters. Be a good boy and kill those civilians for "justice".
 
#48
Case and point as to why Kizaru was always my least favorite Admiral. He seems to have no goals or ambitions of his own, even Oda doesn’t even know what Kizaru’s justice is lol.
Which is why he either will be clowned or lose at Egghead.

Literally the worse Admiral excluding Greenbull, only appearing in movies to show up for 5 min and do short clashes.
 
#50
What are you even talking about? :giogio:
That if exists something that is absolutely not of "conquerors", is negates the very self-existence of oneself and goes around saying that you are someone else entirely, which is kind of a psychological disorder.

Kizaru, on the other hand, is just doing what the wants to do: living without worrying too much.

Maybe he will have the Coc and maybe not, but surely isn't the fact that he follows orders the deciding issue.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#55
That's why he's my favourite. Some people be doing too much. Kizaru just wants his paycheck, but he's not even worried about packing up Kaidou and Big Mom together if required. Stress free all the time.

Also Kizaru was being sarcastic as always.
He’s just such a vanilla Admiral. He’s exactly what I would picture if I pictured a generic Admiral with little/no character. He’s just showing up and doing it for the paycheck, not thinking too hard about anything and not really believing in much.

Definitely not a bad character, his birthday is extremely close to mine lol and overall I’d give him like a Bish on the F-A scale. But all the other Admirals to me are A- at worst.
 
#56
So far I only see Akainu having CoC
Fuji has high chances too

I had hopes for Kizaru since he's fighting Luffy soon but eish...I guess he is gonna be like Cracker (a non conqueror that Luffy fought after Doffy before fighting katakuri...both guys are conquerors)

BTW
If Admirals can't have CoC for serving WG, why should Posthawk? Who loves being under someone's else orders? Lol
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#57
Man, I refuse to accept that the guy the SHS are going to fight is nothing more than a mere slave, Kizaru being a dirty-handed wretched slave just proves that the Gorosei (Saturn) will be the big threat here. It gets annoying to see a fight involving a slave without Conqueror's Haki, relying solely on DF power, a foul-smelling slave. lol
 
#58
Kizaru would've killed it at the Nuremberg trials
No judges no judgment

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So far I only see Akainu having CoC
Fuji has high chances too

I had hopes for Kizaru since he's fighting Luffy soon but eish...I guess he is gonna Cracker (a non conqueror that Luffy fought after Doffy before fighting katakuri...both guys are conquerors)

BTW
If Admirals can't have CoC for serving WG, why should Posthawk? Who loves being under someone's else orders? Lol
Doffy kinda served the wg/Kaidou and has conquerors
 
#59
Case in point as to why Kizaru was always my least favorite Admiral. He seems to have no goals or ambitions of his own, even Oda doesn’t even know what Kizaru’s justice is lol.
Kizaru used to really annoy me as well. His constant trolling eventually grew on me, but it also makes him come across as ineffective. His lack of convictions make him unusual for a shonen character, but it’s overall a good addition.

His justice is unclear because he does his job and follows orders. I’d say his justice is mostly unimportant to him and not a driving factor.

He’s the most realistic military commander in that sense. You can’t have an effective army where all the leadership are like Fujitora, Garp and Kuzan. You’d have desertion and rebellion galore if everyone tried to follow their own sense of justice and push all their subordinates to do so.
A noticeable difference though is that he clearly doesn't overwork himself or anything, he also reached the admiral rank so it's not like he's some random grunt. The good little subservient employe stuff is partially facade to not be held accountable for the WG's atrocities (like the planned Vegapunk's assassination in the case).
He’s having his cake and eating it too. Hypothetically he’s capable of saving Vegapunk, or at least pushing back on the order, but he’s using the facade to wash his hands of any responsibility.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#60
He’s just such a vanilla Admiral. He’s exactly what I would picture if I pictured a generic Admiral with little/no character. He’s just showing up and doing it for the paycheck, not thinking too hard about anything and not really believing in much.

Definitely not a bad character, his birthday is extremely close to mine lol and overall I’d give him like a Bish on the F-A scale. But all the other Admirals to me are A- at worst.
Funnily enough, his position is the most unique when it comes to higher ups (VA’s and higher) in the Navy. Everyone else subscribes to these inflexible ideologies and will die for them. Kizaru brings something completely new to the table and is hilarious while doing it
 
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