Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1110 Spoilers Discussion

[Welkin]

An upgraded Apoo against an upgraded Zoro because he clashed with 3 smoke Zoro once and arguably put down with CoC.

The point is, he wasnt able to hang with serious Zoro either, definitely not even like King did.

Lucci’s fighting a stronger Zoro

And if we’re being honest… how well did King hang with a serious (weaker and barely able to control his ACoC) Zoro

Lucci >= King is still on the table

 

[Moegara]

When do spoilers drop for the other series?

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

3 named attacks??? The only strong attack were the one out of the ground and the last and only the last was an attack which can be compared to all attacks he used on Kaido.

Yes Luffy used 3 named attacks Cope

 

[Albino 👑]

I mean I don't think Zoro negged Lucci and he had to try but he clearly could have ended the fight way sooner based on this chapter. Best you can bargain with here is the lower end of mid diff, and that's only because of the lenght cause Lucci got brutally outskilled here.

If zoro was as serious as he is now yeah he’d definitely do a lot better from the start. He still needing something to push him to that point

Zoro was obviously trying to beat Lucci before but again he just needed an extra push to do better. Same situation when he was fighting apoo and saw kiku’s arm
Both things being necessary to push zoro to that point


Like the story isn’t some battle dome forum where everyone is competing serious, blood lusted, and going all out from the start of every fight
Like even fodder can get the jump on top tiers depending on who and the situation. Like Morgan’s cut Garp lol

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Look at what Zoro's acoc looks like in a fight with King, 1 lightning bolt coming from each blade. What nonsense. Didn't you prove for half a year that Goofy's black lightning coming from his fists is not acoc?

We know oden used Adv Coc here to permanently scar kaido,and even shanks divine departure looks similar their is no lightning leaking from the swords but its around kidd. Zoro attacking lucci looks similar to both of the other attacks. Instead of focusing on zoro vs king look at how oda did the others as well.

 

[Nadel]

According to erkek, Zoro’s bruises that he had prior to fighting Lucci healed mid fight and then Zoro got bruised by Lucci afterwards

Zoro has regen

 

[HellBlazer04]

Zoro cuts fire and has better haki then sabo
Doffy gets negged so does Yamato kid and law
Croc ? You’re a moron shut your mouth

Doffy parasite diffs.
Yamato low diffs with ice abilities+ adcoc
Law-> shambles + amputated
Croc just drains zoros body with one touch
Kidd disarms Zoro with awakening and one shots with railgun

What is Croc hax? Sabo? Yamato?

Croc can drain water from opps body with just one touch.
Yamato - ice powers + adcoc
Sabo - internal destruction and Flames

Lmao

What's funny here?

 

[Reborn]

Doffy parasite diffs.
Yamato low diffs with ice abilities+ adcoc
Law-> shambles + amputated
Croc just drains zoros body with one touch
Kidd disarms Zoro with awakening and one shots with railgun


Croc can drain water from opps body with just one touch.
Yamato - ice powers + adcoc
Sabo - internal destruction and Flames


What's funny here?

Your takes

Your hatred for Zoro is clear

 

[HA001]

Doffy parasite diffs.
Yamato low diffs with ice abilities+ adcoc
Law-> shambles + amputated
Croc just drains zoros body with one touch
Kidd disarms Zoro with awakening and one shots with railgun


Croc can drain water from opps body with just one touch.
Yamato - ice powers + adcoc
Sabo - internal destruction and Flames


What's funny here?

You're a 🤡

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Zolo needed ''motivation speech'' from Lanji, same as Usopp did for Luffy Pre-TS, Parallel got exposed

Linyagi begs to be a Teach fan now LMAO.

You are a no name clown, you can't talk about who is running and who is not you little bitch, only ZKKtards and Assmiraltards like LA01 and Lee runs away. I just debunked ZKKbitches again.


Moron you just got exposed like a bitch, you show me old bruise which is already healed, look above, its clearly a new bruise and its bigger, are you dumb?


There is no YC1 level clowns.

Zoro was already damaged before the fight started nice try clown. Lucci got bodied go cry

 

[Lor D. Coast]

mad ? you should be mad since the start of the arc , against seraphims these fellas didn't use adv CoC ? Kizaru doesn't do shit ? Sanji's laughing while vegapunk already died ? .....

Jinbo hasn't thrown a punch on panel since his fight with Who's Who.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Anyway After this chapter , the crew dynamic is :


> Emperor level :
Zoro - Luffy

> YC level :
Jinbei - Sanji

> High level Tobi Roppo level :
Brook - Robin - Franky - Chopper

> Low level Tobi Roppo level :
Nami - Brook

 

[Ace]

You're looking at the the internal logic from within the story when you should be looking at the meta reason for the stalling. Luffy worrying about killing or hurting Bellamy doesn't make sense at all as Bellamy attempted to hurt Luffy even before he got parasited, and he knew that Law would need his assistance against Doffy. Also when has Luffy worried about his punches killing people? That was for the sake of stalling so Law and Doffy can get their character dynamic established, and to weaken Luffy.

Tashigi wasn't even present for the 1st half of Zoro vs Monet. Zoro was simply stalling with Monet, and in doing so he put his crew in serious risk, and Robin had to save Nami and Chopper. Does that sound like Zoro doing a good job protecting his nakama? No. It doesn't.

Against Kamazou, he was literally goofing around with him and Gyukimaru until he got stabbed, then finished the job soon after with a named attack ala Chapter 1110, and if you forgotten, he only fell because he had a poisoned stomach, hence the growl, not Kamazou's attack in and of itself. This was also so Zoro and Hiyori can have their dynamics established after the fight.

Zoro could of finished Pica off way sooner if he simply used one of his faster techniques, yet he didn't opt to use any techniques until Pica became a threat to everyone else on Dressrosa, and only then did he start using his named attacks. This stalling was so that Zoro can be busy, and can't aid Luffy and Law in their battle with Doffy. Same reason why the Birdcage exists.

You keep saying that Cracker and Lucci are the same, yet the context within the fight are so vastly different that they are far from comparable. Unlike Zoro in his Lucci fight, Luffy from the start needed G4, him best form at the time, and used named techniques in it, and still needed heavy carrying from Nami, and PIS from Cracker to get an illegitimate W.

Meanwhile Zoro hasn't used a single named attack, and although he did show Overflowing ACoA in his fight, it's pretty obvious that it was not needed as shown in Chapter 1110. You can't claim that Zoro and Lucci used any named attacks before the current chapter as there is no proof of such. Furthermore as I have showcased in the Zoro vs Monet fight, Zoro has the tendency to stall so shamelessly that his fight can spill over to his nakama and put them in serious danger. So just because Zoro says he serious about defeating his opponents and protecting his friends, that doesn't always come to fruition in terms of action. Regardless, stalling Lucci was in a weird way effective in protecting his crewmates from Lucci's wrath.

But really the meta reason for the stalling was so that the Bonney and Kuma could get their backstories told, Luffy can give Bonney hope in the Sun God once again, and so that Vegapunk can die. If Zoro was present, there be enough powerful bodies on the allies' side to make Vegapunk's death avoidable.

Zoro vs Monet is still the worst Zoro writing in the series.

From making him a pseudo Sanji, to fucking around after yelling at Luffy for fucking around. There’s layers to how bad it is

 

[GUI VI]

Doffy parasite diffs.
Yamato low diffs with ice abilities+ adcoc
Law-> shambles + amputated
Croc just drains zoros body with one touch
Kidd disarms Zoro with awakening and one shots with railgun


Croc can drain water from opps body with just one touch.
Yamato - ice powers + adcoc
Sabo - internal destruction and Flames


What's funny here?

 

[Reborn]

As a BB fan like Erkan, I fear erkan zero sense posts more than Oda's Nika wank

 

[Moegara]

Zoro overshadowed the Gorosei powers reveal in the same chapter and it's not even close.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Your takes

Your hatred for Zoro is clear

I'm not Zoro hater, I've stated this before as well.
It's just ive recently realised oda's treatment of Zoro has changed(partly due to Nika bs). He can't perform as good as he used to till wano.
I can't overwank Zoro anymore due to his horrible matchups

 

[Albino 👑]

You're looking at the the internal logic from within the story when you should be looking at the meta reason for the stalling. Luffy worrying about killing or hurting Bellamy doesn't make sense at all as Bellamy attempted to hurt Luffy even before he got parasited, and he knew that Law would need his assistance against Doffy. Also when has Luffy worried about his punches killing people? That was for the sake of stalling so Law and Doffy can get their character dynamic established, and to weaken Luffy.

Tashigi wasn't even present for the 1st half of Zoro vs Monet. Zoro was simply stalling with Monet, and in doing so he put his crew in serious risk, and Robin had to save Nami and Chopper. Does that sound like Zoro doing a good job protecting his nakama? No. It doesn't.

Against Kamazou, he was literally goofing around with him and Gyukimaru until he got stabbed, then finished the job soon after with a named attack ala Chapter 1110, and if you forgotten, he only fell because he had a poisoned stomach, hence the growl, not Kamazou's attack in and of itself. This was also so Zoro and Hiyori can have their dynamics established after the fight.

Zoro could of finished Pica off way sooner if he simply used one of his faster techniques, yet he didn't opt to use any techniques until Pica became a threat to everyone else on Dressrosa, and only then did he start using his named attacks. This stalling was so that Zoro can be busy, and can't aid Luffy and Law in their battle with Doffy. Same reason why the Birdcage exists.

You keep saying that Cracker and Lucci are the same, yet the context within the fight are so vastly different that they are far from comparable. Unlike Zoro in his Lucci fight, Luffy from the start needed G4, him best form at the time, and used named techniques in it, and still needed heavy carrying from Nami, and PIS from Cracker to get an illegitimate W.

Meanwhile Zoro hasn't used a single named attack, and although he did show Overflowing ACoA in his fight, it's pretty obvious that it was not needed as shown in Chapter 1110. You can't claim that Zoro and Lucci used any named attacks before the current chapter as there is no proof of such. Furthermore as I have showcased in the Zoro vs Monet fight, Zoro has the tendency to stall so shamelessly that his fight can spill over to his nakama and put them in serious danger. So just because Zoro says he serious about defeating his opponents and protecting his friends, that doesn't always come to fruition in terms of action. Regardless, stalling Lucci was in a weird way effective in protecting his crewmates from Lucci's wrath.

But really the meta reason for the stalling was so that the Bonney and Kuma could get their backstories told, Luffy can give Bonney hope in the Sun God once again, and so that Vegapunk can die. If Zoro was present, there be enough powerful bodies on the allies' side to make Vegapunk's death avoidable.

When your reading a story the in story logic and reasoning as to why things are happening are way more important than meta

Blaming meta for idk luffy running out of g4 right before he could have beat g4 doesn’t matter
The reason just like the reason for everything in a story is meta

Doesn’t change the fact it happened and that there are in verse reasons. Blaming meta or plot only for the things you don’t like makes no sense cause everything is meta/plot

 

[Reborn]

I'm not, I've stated this before as well.
It's just ive recently realised oda's treatment of Zoro has changed(partly due to Nika bs). He can't perform as good as he used to till wano.
I can't overwank Zoro anymore due to his horrible matchups

I appreciate those more who openly admits that they don't like zoro much and thus biased than likes of you who hide behind the veil of oda's writing to shit on zoro

 

[dalbajobas]

Zoro vs Monet is still the worst Zoro writing in the series.

From making him a pseudo Sanji, to fucking around after yelling at Luffy for fucking around. There’s layers to how bad it is

Zoro fans actually praise that moment, which is baffling to me. It's like they don't read what kind of dogshit character Zoro was there.

Like, he literally told this to Luffy few chapters earlier, just to fuck around with Monet himself.... if not for Caeser killing Monet, she would've blown up the island