Who will be the 47th President of the United States of America?


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Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
You are changing your argument here.

Your first argument was clear :
- "instead of telling them that they have the power to improve themself and the sky is the limit"
NOT
- "someone who is obse due to unhealthy eating can better themselves by eating healthier and exercising"

Now. I understand what you meant in both case and the fact that it was related to obesity. But you need to understand that EVEN in that case, the notion of self improvement given to a person in obesity is derivated by the same meritocratic principle: A person who is obese and doesn't act on themself is seen as less worthy than a person who is obese and do act on themself.

And why do you think I'm calling out your argument and calling it a meritocratic vision ? Well... Because this type of mindset is a PURE RESULT of capitalism and liberalism. The notion that some people are less worthy because they don't seem to act to improve on their condition is the CORNERSTONE of capitalism and meritocracy.

In a capitalist society, homeless people are (mostly) rejected because they are poor who don't seem to fight their oppression and conditions. On the other hand, people who manage to get above the working/"low" class upward toward the middle class are praised. In fact, in some country, those system are so implanted in society that it has become cultural. In Japan for example, becoming homeless is one of the greatest shame their is, specifically because it is seen has an abandon. This is why there is very few homeless people but a LOT of very poor people.

Capitalism works because the power and the upper class keeps the illusion of meritocracy alive. In this meritocracy, poor people DESERVES to be poor because of their choice and their refusal to better themself. Without this principle and belief the entire system would collapse.

And what happens to poor people also happens to:
- Fat people
- Neuroatypic people like me.

When those people don't seem to try to better their condition, they are seen as less worthy. So.. this is why they will face injonction to better themself.

Well.. guess what.. I had to TANK all those injonctions "to better myself" for MORE THAN 10 F. YEARS.
- By my friends
- By my Family
- By my doctors
- By people online.

And you know what ? During all that time.. I was actually doing my HARDEST to overcome my situation.. but since it was invisible and a personnal war, nobody was noticing it.. until one day, on the verge of fainting, I had to put my dad's hand on my hearth for him to notice that it was going at lighting speed because of the stress inflicted by all those injonctions, expectations and toxic behaviors from my environment.

During 10 years:
- Nobody noticed that I went from a far right complotist to a woke socialist
- Nobody noticed that I had read and learn everything there was to know about storytelling and storycrafting
- Nobody noticed all the project I created on the side, all the time I spent on fighting for Carrot, fighting toxicity, creating ressources for others
- Nobody noticed that my life and dreams were simply broken because of my incapacity of doing anything relative to a single drawing and that I was fighting day after day in a hurricane full of void and despair in front of a non-existent future
- Nobody noticed that I was doing everything I could to better myself in every aspect I had control over


So.. nobody took the time to tell me.. "you are doing a good job, continue what you are doing, I accept you, you are perfect as you are"

I would have KILLED to get that at least once.

So... you see. This is what capitalism does. it keeps down the invisibilized, those with less ressources, those with less power, those with less normativity, those with less mental batteries.

You want to know what you must do to help people fight their obesity ?

REALLY looking at them. Because noone know those person but themself

Start by doing what my close relatives did for me with my mental Illness: Look at their life, look at their struggle, day.. after day. Look at the reason why they can't lose weight. Look at their stress level, their relationship, their loneliness, their mental struggle, their fight against their own image and own body. Look at their victories, small and big. Look at the pressure society is putting on them through all those meritocratic injonctions and maybe... just maybe.. tell them:

"You are perfect the way you are, I'm with you"

And for the love of Usopp. Get meritocracy OUT of your system once and for all.
I ain't reading all that for nothing.

I'll stick to telling people that they can always improve themselves and change, and not be so reliant on the approval of other people. Telling people that they are perfect(aka hit their limit and a blatant lie) and need the approval and acceptance of other people to live a human being is stupid as fuck.
 
I'll stick to telling people that they can always improve themselves and change, and not be so reliant on the approval of other people. Telling people that they are perfect(aka hit their limit and a blatant lie) and need the approval and acceptance of other people to live a human being is stupid as fuck.
Maybe it wasn't the best moment to skip a post and say what you had on your mind..
 
I ain't reading all that for nothing.

I'll stick to telling people that they can always improve themselves and change, and not be so reliant on the approval of other people. Telling people that they are perfect(aka hit their limit and a blatant lie) and need the approval and acceptance of other people to live a human being is stupid as fuck.
Van being based. Who woulda thunk it.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Maybe it wasn't the best moment to skip a post and say what you had on your mind..
Your entire argument is based on, once again, using a term wrong by definition, making assumptions, and enforcing your version of it on everyone else. Until you understand nuance and accurate definitions, you'll be screaming at air again.

Absolutely nothing about what I've said equates to believing in a full fledged Meritocracy. Thinking someone can have some control of their lives given the situation is a meritocracy. You'd think with the amount of times you've wrongly labeled someone that you'd get it by now.
 
Maybe it wasn't the best moment to skip a post and say what you had on your mind..
DEI = Didn't Earn It
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Your entire argument is based on, once again, using a term wrong by definition, making assumptions, and enforcing your version of it on everyone else. Until you understand nuance and accurate definitions, you'll be screaming at air again.

Absolutely nothing about what I've said equates to believing in a full fledged Meritocracy. Thinking someone can have some control of their lives given the situation is a meritocracy. You'd think with the amount of times you've wrongly labeled someone that you'd get it by now.
Meritocracy isn't wrong, but I can see how some would think people would get left behind etc.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
I ain't reading all that for nothing.

I'll stick to telling people that they can always improve themselves and change, and not be so reliant on the approval of other people. Telling people that they are perfect(aka hit their limit and a blatant lie) and need the approval and acceptance of other people to live a human being is stupid as fuck.
people should try to better themselves as long as its within their reach

however not everything is within reach for everyone
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
DEI = Didn't Earn It
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Meritocracy isn't wrong, but I can see how some would think people would get left behind etc.
Some obviously get left behind. That's just how society as a whole works. In almost every nation to exist, there were always those that hit rock bottom. The problem is that under unregulated captialism, it's easy to hit rock bottom with no fault of your own. You can be the hardest working person there is and still not break above minimum wage since the system itself is designed to keep you poor.

Logiko is just once again being close minded and enforcing his views and assumptions on other people. He keeps trying to remove any fault or accountability on the left. America at the very least, has become more right wing and conservative over the past 15 years and its for a reason.
 
H

Herrera95

Talking about mass disinformation and manipulation

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust

NPR veteran describes the transformation of NPR from a news to an activist organization after Trump's election:

"During most of my tenure [at NPR], an open-minded, curious culture prevailed. We were nerdy, but not knee-jerk, activist, or scolding.

In recent years, however, that has changed. Today, those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online find something different: the distilled worldview of a very small segment of the U.S. population...

Like many unfortunate things, the rise of advocacy took off with Donald Trump. As in many newsrooms, his election in 2016 was greeted at NPR with a mixture of disbelief, anger, and despair... But what began as tough, straightforward coverage of a belligerent, truth-impaired president veered toward efforts to damage or topple Trump’s presidency [italics mine].

Persistent rumors that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia over the election became the catnip that drove reporting. At NPR, we hitched our wagon to Trump’s most visible antagonist, Representative Adam Schiff...

The Schiff talking points became the drumbeat of NPR news reports.

But when the Mueller report found no credible evidence of collusion, NPR’s coverage was notably sparse. Russiagate quietly faded from our programming...

It’s bad to blow a big story.

What’s worse is to pretend it never happened, to move on with no mea culpas, no self-reflection...

[Hunter Biden's] laptop was newsworthy. But the timeless journalistic instinct of following a hot story lead was being squelched. During a meeting with colleagues, I listened as one of NPR’s best and most fair-minded journalists said it was good we weren’t following the laptop story because it could help Trump [italics mine]...

Over the course of the pandemic, a number of investigative journalists made compelling, if not conclusive, cases for the lab leak. But at NPR, we weren’t about to swivel or even tiptoe away from the insistence with which we backed the natural origin story...

[Our new director] declared that diversity—on our staff and in our audience—was the overriding mission... Race and identity became paramount in nearly every aspect of the workplace. Journalists were required to ask everyone we interviewed their race, gender, and ethnicity (among other questions), and had to enter it in a centralized tracking system [italics mine]. We were given unconscious bias training sessions. A growing DEI staff offered regular meetings imploring us to 'start talking about race.'

There’s an unspoken consensus about the stories we should pursue and how they should be framed. It’s frictionless—one story after another about instances of supposed racism, transphobia, signs of the climate apocalypse, Israel doing something bad, and the dire threat of Republican policies. It’s almost like an assembly line.

The mindset prevails in choices about language. In a document called NPR Transgender Coverage Guidance—disseminated by news management—we’re asked to avoid the term biological sex... The mindset animates bizarre stories—on how The Beatles and bird names are racially problematic, and others that are alarmingly divisive; justifying looting, with claims that fears about crime are racist; and suggesting that Asian Americans who oppose affirmative action have been manipulated by white conservatives.

More recently, we have approached the Israel-Hamas war and its spillover onto streets and campuses through the intersectional lens that has jumped from the faculty lounge to newsrooms. Oppressor versus oppressed...

I looked at voter registration for our newsroom. In D.C., where NPR is headquartered and many of us live, I found 87 registered Democrats working in editorial positions and zero Republicans. None."

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You can be the hardest working person there is and still not break above minimum wage since the system itself is designed to keep you poor.
You have to be the smartest not hardest. Don't blame the game just because you don't understand. Unregulated capitalism is beautiful. Regulated capitalism is where "the system is made to keep you poor" is all about. When company joins governaments to regulate economy. That's when you are doomed to be poor. Not when everyone is free to do what they want.
 
Context matter little bunny
You didn't read my post properly 🙄
Thats still not europe
Notice that the great replacement theory does not originate in Europe but in Europe's cultural outposts overseas. Those who replaced the indigenous population of their respective country. They're scared of karma basically :saden:
Muslims are oppressed all over the world.
:sus::kaidowhat: except the countries where they are the majority and oppress&forcefully convert religious minorities :saden:


What point are you trying to make?
 
Not all of it, you asked “all this time” and I don’t think Israel is crazy for at some points putting its national security and of its citizens above everything
As of right now Israel is putting their blitzkrieg above the security of its hostages. This whole mess stopped being about national security a long time ago.
 
Good reason to fear someone ≠ good reason to oppress them :kaidowhat:
So if a group of cannibals decided to set up shop in a country, and threatened to eat your neighbors you don’t think that’s a good reason to oppress them and keep them away?

violence always requires a justification. We have to weight wether is good enough or not
 
So if a group of cannibals decided to set up shop in a country, and threatened to eat your neighbors you don’t think that’s a good reason to oppress them and keep them away?
Are you comparing the Palestinians who lived there before the mass migration of Jews to cannibals?
The situation is long past this stage anyway.
 
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