I agree with you on most parts but when ur saying that yonkos cant fight their 1st commander cuz they are significantly stronger then them how will that work with Luffy and Zoro? I mean Luffy will be yonko level eventually and Zoro is his 1st commander/right hand and are they not close in terms of strength? Or will that change soon ?
I don’t believe they are close in strength
I believe luffy is significantly stronger than zoro(maybe the 1st commanders can put up little fight)
Zoro is fighting his end game vilian for this arc who is king
luffy will be fighting kaido, hear me out
kaido fought 14 people so far, though luffy isn’t on his luffy ryt now….he’s gonna be on that level maybe the next arc or so
but with what kaido just accomplished it’s safe to say no first commander can really put up a fight against the yonkos
Zoros case might be different due to mihawk but till then
luffy >>>zoro
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That user pulls off genuinely retarded arguments.
The plot has clearly displayed that Zoro can very well match up Luffy and they keep blatantly ignoring how relevant VCs can be.
Not only that, blatantly not lending Kizaru's reaction enough weight.
you can’t be serious!!!
I can’t even take you serious when you take character standing next to each other in panels and face reaction as strength panel
if you can’t bring in manga panels about Ben beckman being put on the same tier as yonkos then get out of here with your head canon
only pirate ever compared to a yonko was mihawk and that was 6 years before said person he was compared to became yonko
I remember people saying kaido was weak because the scrabbard could cut him and some dumbasses saying zoro could one shot luffy
Guess who’s fighting the final boss of this arc and can use all advanced form of haki???
guess who is also fighting the second in command
you know how I know your argument is stupid…if 2 yonkous were to fight, their Captains would face each other and first commanders will face themselves….imagine thinking Ben is yonkou level, shanks would have been the pirate king a long time ago cause saying that is also saying it’s the same thing with big mom and kaido, 2 yonkos
see how dumb you sound
the same people that claimed marco was yonkou level or inbetween, couldn’t even push king to hybrid
if you don’t still understand, let me break it down cause I won’t even reply an idiot like you again
garp “ 4 pirates that rule over new world facing even against white beard himself….4 strongest pirate”
kaido current strongest and 1 vs 1 champion, said to be even stronger than white beard in ace novel
big mom lived long enough in both roger and white beard era as an active pirate, someone roger refused to fight
shanks the youngest one of them said to be on their level
black beard
all 4 of them in a deadlock this is know by every person that has been reading one piece for years
now add another yonko level character, for instance your headcanon of Ben, that balance shifts complete to one side….
unless you can bring valid evidence about Ben being a yonko level character and not vivre card or kizaru cause that mofo still ignores Ben and attacked luffy…you can disrespectfully get out
same vivre card that said shanks was a yonko when he visited luffy…lol
bring on panel feat and statement please