Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1110 Spoilers Discussion

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Is the Same, boths was out of count in the end of the fight, Why Luffy is the only one who get this treatment by your guys, and have dozen,millions excuses for other Characters? Why always is this?

So Luffy out after a fight is bad, and the others aren't?
Ah so you simply stupid. So let me address the stupidity:

LUFFY HAD TO RELY ON A FORM THAT BY DEFAULT CAUSES HIM TO PASS OUT AND BE USELESS AND THUS A DETRIMENT TO HIS CREW BECAUAS HE HAS TO RELY ON THE FORM TO GET THE VICTORY. NOW IF LUFFY DIDNT NEED G5 FOR AWAKENED LUCCI THEN WHY DID HE HAVE TO RELY ON A FORM THAT CAUSES THIS EXACT TRAVISTY? ITS BECAUSE LUFFY NEEDED TO POWER THE FORM GIVES TO DEFEAT LUCCI.

Does zoro or sanjis form equate to them being out of the picture when they use their power ups? No. They have to simply be defeated by a stronger opponent or had to be damaged prior. In luffys case he can be FRESH and healthy and would still pass out and be a detriment because of g5.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

The Gorosei and the Divine Knights are the internal power, while the Navy is the external face...
The Gorosei in this chapter as the internal power literally are saving the Navy.

Kizaru failed to protect his ships which were targets of the Pacifistas all the time.

As a consequence, the Gorosei had to personally deal with the problems that Kizaru, who is currently in a coma, couldn't:

- Pass through the barrier.
- Destroy the Pacifistas that are destroying their naval troops.
- Stop Yonko Luffy, the greatest threat of the entire arc.
- Possibly confront the giants who easily defeated the vice admirals and destroyed several navy ships.
- Possibly stop the beast called Zoro who is loose on the island, Jimbei too.

If the other 4 Gorosei not are here, only Saturno and Kizaru:

- Kizaru is down on the ground.
- The giants are destroying the navy ships and defeating the vice admirals.
- Jimbei and Sanji are free to battle.
- Zoro defeated Lucci and now he is also free.
- The rest of the SHS are free too.
- Luffy is battling with Saturno now.
- Pacifistas are destroying the navy ships.

Yeah bro, Kizaru is literally a failure, who would lose even in greater numbers.
 
Characters in One Piece are capable of being stalled by way weaker characters. Bellamy was capable of staying Luffy for more chapter counts than Lucci did to Zoro. Zoro got stalled by Monet for quite a while. So there's nothing special there, and the reason we say it was easy for Zoro is same reason why it's obvious when he's being stalled solely for the sake of the plot. Zoro has never used a named attack against Lucci until Chapter 1110, and as soon as he does, the fight is done. This has the same beat as Monet, Pica, Hyouzou, Kamazou, and Apoo in that his fight with them became completely one-sided as soon as he actually started to use moves in his arsenal.

This is completely different from "stalling" opponents like Cracker and King, where for both Luffy and Zoro respectively, they actually had to be serious from the start, using named attacks from the jump, and the opponent could withstand, and even counterattack said named attacks. Cracker and King were formidable, Lucci wasn't.
Yes there’s obviously different ways to stall a character
  1. Luffy didn’t want to hurt and potentially kill Bellamy
  2. Zoro left Monet to Tashigi for the most part
  3. Zoro was actually trying to beat Lucci
Neither zoro or Lucci have shown attacks till this chapter. That doesn’t mean they weren’t since most the fight was off screen and logically they would
  1. Tashigi was fighting Monet
  2. Zoro called pica weak and he was stalling by just running avoiding him
  3. Zoro called hyozou fodder and even let him go at one point till he came back to fight
  4. Zoro ended the fight with kamazo passed out in the snow
  5. Zoro asked Drake for help against apoo only landing an attack after he saw kiku’s arm. Apoo got back up and stayed undefeated
Zoro vs king wasn’t a stalling match. Zoro won relatively fact and king kept going out of flame

Lucci and cracker fights are actually pretty similar
  1. From the start both luffy and zoro know they have to hurry up and end the fight
  2. During the start Luffy uses g4 and zoro koh or whatever you want to call it and don’t win
  3. The whole purpose of the fight is to stall and defeat them
 

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it ain't that bad, he kicked kizaru's laser looked good for a while standing with luffy against kizaru and a gorosei, too bad luffy immediately told him to fuck off before he did anything else though
IMO, the worst part of all of that is that Vegapunk had LITERALLY said that he would DIE if he was MOVED.
What does Luffy immediately orders Sanji to do next?
Move Vegapunk.
 
Ah so you simply stupid. So let me address the stupidity:

LUFFY HAD TO RELY ON A FORM THAT BY DEFAULT CAUSES HIM TO PASS OUT AND BE USELESS AND THUS A DETRIMENT TO HIS CREW BECAUAS HE HAS TO RELY ON THE FORM TO GET THE VICTORY. NOW IF LUFFY DIDNT NEED G5 FOR AWAKENED LUCCI THEN WHY DID HE HAVE TO RELY ON A FORM THAT CAUSES THIS EXACT TRAVISTY? ITS BECAUSE LUFFY NEEDED TO POWER THE FORM GIVES TO DEFEAT LUCCI.

Does zoro or sanjis form equate to them being out of the picture when they use their power ups? No. They have to simply be defeated by a stronger opponent or had to be damaged prior. In luffys case he can be FRESH and healthy and would still pass out and be a detriment because of g5.
What about Luffy using G4 against a Number? Against Ulti? Against Kaidou's minions Ship?
 
Headcannon


This is a theory not confirmed by Vegapunk. And he talked about dreams not imagination. There is a difference. Only Nika is about imagination.


They are not forms. Maybe only G4. Gears are techniques. G2 is about blood pump. G4 is about bone inflation.


He did KOed Lucci. But what all that has to do with Sanji not beating him?
https://calgaras.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F140813061277
You are done.

He also didn't ko lucci. A koed person doesn't state that if things keep going this way they will pass put. Thata illogical and stupid
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
IMO, the worst part of all of that is that Vegapunk had LITERALLY said that he would DIE if he was MOVED.
What does Luffy immediately orders Sanji to do next?
Move Vegapunk.
Oda smokes pot while writing sanji



He literally isolated Zoro to make both luffy and sanji act like clowns just to kill VP
 
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