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Who defeats King?


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The difference was, there was no clear narrative illustrating Kyros "shouldnt" take out a doflamingo executive, unlike Wano. Kyros was set up to fight Diamante for like 40 chapters. Wano specifically shows only new gen pirates fighting executives and highlights that when the CP0 guy talks.
A few things

-there is a storyline with Marco being aware that he has a purpose in this fight, but being unsure what that purpose is, that has now been ongoing for twenty chapters. That can easily become beating King to defend the new generation, especially given their respective positions in a Yonko crew and the fact they are actually fighting- and neither seems keen to stop doing so. I find it bizarre that everyone just seems to think Marco’s been brought to the arc just to float around the background and get beaten. That’s a poor payoff.

-The CP0 scene doesn’t actually show any Calamities, it just shows the Flying Six and talks about stopping Kaido’s powerful officers. From what we can see, CP0 simply weren’t talking about the Calamities at that time, probably because no Strawhat was actually fighting one. It was about the Flying Six fights.

-the new generation still overcomes the old if Marco beats King. Same way we’d still say that the Strawhats beat Enel and his priests even though Wyper was the one to actually beat Shura. And the Strawhats beating the Donquixote Family, despite Law, Kyros and the Fleet being involved. Just one fight does not change the overall outcome of new gen triumphing over the old.

-Yamato vs Jack. Very likely to happen... also very hard to say it fits this theme. Yamato’s probably been a Beast Pirate longer than Jack and they’re the exact same age.
 
That literally would not make sense lmao.

King is clearly the #2. Queen is clearly the #3.

If this was a normal arc, Zoro would fight the #2, Sanji would fight the #3.

Why do this to yourself
Nope. Only ever happened in Alabasta.

Zoro would fight Queen after getting the antidote. And the Sanji vs King plot would happen just as its about to happen. King needs a flying opponent, or his 4 wings is litterally gonna be a waste. Whilst Queen is also a swordsman....so Zoro can have a swordsman fight with him.
 
Nope. Only ever happened in Alabasta.

Zoro would fight Queen after getting the antidote. And the Sanji vs King plot would happen just as its about to happen. King needs a flying opponent, or his 4 wings is litterally gonna be a waste. Whilst Queen is also a swordsman....so Zoro can have a swordsman fight with him.
"Only ever happened in Alabasta"

- Ohm was the # 2 in Skypiea. He was the strongest priest with a 0% survival rate. No real Sanji fight outside of a 3v1.
- Kaku was stronger than Jabra and had higher douriki, aka the #2
- Ryuuma clearly was stronger than Absalom by a country mile. Depictions of that fight are on another level compared to Sanji's fight with Absalom, doesn't matter for Absalom was his "master"
- Hyouzou was the #2 at FI. He was the only one to take the drug and have the same reaction as Hody. He wasn't part of his crew, but a hired gun. Semantics though since everyone basically 1 shot that crew
- Monet technically was the #2 at Punk Hazard, discounting Vergo. No Sanji fight
- Pica 100% was Doffy's # number 2 considering how ridiculously broken his powers were and what he was achieving with it. Regardless, no Sanji fight


So uh, your headcanon is disproven by the pure fact that Zoro almost always fights the #2 while Sanji only "sometimes" fights the #3, but at Skypiea, Punk Hazard and DR, he got nothing. In fact, he got nothing for WCI either.

You guys are trying way too hard. If it was "typical". Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen made way more sense than anything else.

Sanji doesn't fight stronger opponents than Zoros own. Kill that headcanon now, because it's absolutely false.
 
"Only ever happened in Alabasta"

- Ohm was the # 2 in Skypiea. He was the strongest priest with a 0% survival rate
- Kaku was stronger than Jabra and higher douriki, aka the #2
- Ryuuma clearly was stronger than Absalom by a country mile. Depictions of that fight are on another level compared to Sanji's fight with Absalom, doesn't matter for Absalom was his "master"
- Hyouzou was the #2 at FI. He was the only one to take the drug and have the same reaction as Hody. He wasn't part of his crew, but a higher education partner. Semantics though since everyone basically 1 shot that crew
- Monet technically was the #2 at Punk Hazard, discounting Vergo. No Sanji fight
- Pica 100% was Doffy's # number 2 considering how ridiculously broken his powers were and what he was achieving with it. Regardless, no Sanji fight


So uh, your headcanon is disproven by the pure fact that Zoro almost always fights the #2 while Sanji only "sometimes" fights the #3, but at Skypiea, Punk Hazard and DR, he got nothing. In fact, he got nothing for WCI either.

You guys are trying way too hard. If it was "typical". Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen made way more sense than anything else.

Sanji doesn't fight stronger opponents than Zoros own. Kill that headcanon now, because it's absolutely false.
well when he tries to fight those he always gets bodied
vergo doffy king
 

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If this was a normal arc...Zoro still wouldnt fight King and he would fight Queen:kayneshrug:. Yall can fight me on that Idc...
Nope. I specifically addressed this:
There's still a significant chance that Zoro defeats King
  • While there's no in-story reason to expect Zoro to defeat King, there are very strong meta reasons to expect Zoro to defeat King:
    • Zoro has always faced the strongest subordinate(s) of the arc antagonist:
      • Cabaji
      • Nyaban Brothers
      • Hatchan
      • Daz Bones
      • Ohm
      • Kaku
      • Ryuma
      • Hyouzou
      • Monet
      • Pica
    • Zoro has faced all formidable swordsmen opponents:
      • Cabaji
      • Mihawk
      • Hatchan
      • Ohm
      • Captain T-Bone
      • Kaku
      • Ryuma
      • Hyouzou
    • A non-Zoro Strawhat defeating the arc antagonist's strongest subordinate is unprecedented
    • A non-Zoro Strawhat defeating a formidable swordsman opponent is unprecedented
    • In conclusion, Sanji defeating King would require two unprecedented events to happen

Whilst Queen is also a swordsman....
Queen has literally never used his swords to fight. Stop lying.
 
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Whatever chile.....

Anyways I really hope we get Sanji vs King in 1010...it will hold up to the current chapter shit Oda is doing. However I dont mind it happening earlier. I just hope Oda doesnt make happen too late.

Momo and Yamato are practically at the Live Performance, Sanji is going in there direction. And King is there. I just hope King defeats Marco before then.
I respect you for going down with the ship.

I'll give you this. If Sanji doesn't start fighting King within the next 4 chapters then he's no fighting him.
If this was a normal arc...Zoro still wouldnt fight King and he would fight Queen:kayneshrug:. Yall can fight me on that Idc...
You are unbearable.
 
What this guy said.
All of sanji’s opponents are non serious comedy clowns -Jabra,Absalom,Mr. 2 etc lol
When he fights actual dudes who mean business like Vergo,Doflamingo etc he gets put in to the same trash can where he belongs
King isn't for Judge's son unless he wants to get bodied again.
Judge's son will face Judge's friend. The one clown who prepared summer camp for Luffy to train his advanced CoA. The one clown who successfully made his underlings side with the enemy in the middle of war. The one clown who got outsmarted and slapped by Chopper.
 
What this guy said.

King isn't for Judge's son unless he wants to get bodied again.
Judge's son will face Judge's friend. The one clown who prepared summer camp for Luffy to train his advanced CoA. The one clown who successfully made his underlings side with the enemy in the middle of war. The one clown who got outsmarted and slapped by Chopper.
the clown who shit his pants at zoro s no named flying slash:finally:
 
Kyros in Dressorsa did not fit the theme of characters who will become GF leaders and actually took away two potential fights (Buffalo and Diamanete) from the Strawhats and their allies. Fights that could have went to Robin, Orlumbus or Ideo, who then didn’t get a victory the arc.
I mean, Kyros had his whole wife plot line
Also Diamante is a scrub compared to Trebol or Pica
 
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