Future Events Who Will Defeat King?

[Lukegranders]

Says the dude who’s been begging for a Sanji fight the whole timeskip. If you think drake and apoo will jump queen and Sanji the irrelevant scrub and non worst gen member will solo a calamity I truly feel bad for you. But at the same time I can’t wait to clown you

Im gonna clown you when it happens don’t be mad when it does

 

[Guymieux]

You better prepare for that cause its gonna happen bro, be ready to get clowned

Whatever you say buddy

 

[Finalbeta]

You better prepare for that cause its gonna happen bro, be ready to get clowned

Why do you think this is occurring overall?

 

[Rulo D.Oro]

Why do you think this is occurring overall?

Sanji wont fight a nerfed Jack who was already beaten twice, also the scabbards are healthy now so they will beat him again.
Queen is dealing with Marco and Chopper, maybe even Drake joins that fight.
Sanji is interested in saving Momo and King is the only commander who interacted with Sanji and wants Momo dead.
All leads towards Sanji vs King.

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanji wont fight a nerfed Jack who was already beaten twice, also the scabbards are healthy now so they will beat him again.
Queen is dealing with Marco and Chopper, maybe even Drake joins that fight.
Sanji is interested in saving Momo and King is the only commander who interacted with Sanji and wants Momo dead.
All leads towards Sanji vs King.

There's still Yamato left who might want to reach her daddy and perhaps King could not let her bypass his position.

Sanji may very well end up against Queen expecially if Queen will be somewhat done with his current enemies.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Prince vs King. Repeats this every weeks.

 

[Finalbeta]

Prince vs King. Repeats this every weeks.

Posted like this it looks like something else lol.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Yet his mastery isnt close to Ace's.

Is gun's not a weapon now ?

Who says controling clouds takes that much control for a dragon fruit.

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Zoro is not defeating Kaido nor is he defeating King. After Wano....the latest W he took was against a disabled WG member who was missing his weapons. And it was a double KO. Sad.....

Sanji will always look worse than Zoro. Zoro feats this arc will make Sanji look like a clown when he opens up that wound that 3 commander level people and Kinemon couldn't do together.

 

[Chrono]

Who says controling clouds takes that much control for a dragon fruit.

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Sanji will always look worse than Zoro. Zoro feats this arc will make Sanji look like a clown when he opens up that wound that 3 commander level people and Kinemon couldn't do together.

k

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

k

Don't be salty bro, it just won't change. Momo is clearly being set up to be the real dragon deity the people of Wano needs. Which means he needs to do something that a large group of people see. Saving them from Onigashima is one and flyimg(for character development) is another. Probably beat up Orochi if he comes back with his sword too.

Yea Zoro thing just another fact

 

[Chrono]

Don't be salty bro, it just won't change. Momo is clearly being set up to be the real dragon deity the people of Wano needs. Which means he needs to do something that a large group of people see. Saving them from Onigashima is one and flyimg(for character development) is another. Probably beat up Orochi if he comes back with his sword too.

Yea Zoro thing just another fact

Never said Momo wont control the clouds. Im just saying he wont be able to do it like Kaido...

Thats your own pathetic headcannon that I cant be asked deal with.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Never said Momo wont control the clouds. Im just saying he wont be able to do it like Kaido...

Thats your own pathetic headcannon that I cant be asked deal with.

1. What you mean like Kaido? You mean not strain and move island easily. Probably not amd The island would be probably hLf destroyed by the time he dies it.
2. Its facts

 

[Lukegranders]

Who says controling clouds takes that much control for a dragon fruit.

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Sanji will always look worse than Zoro. Zoro feats this arc will make Sanji look like a clown when he opens up that wound that 3 commander level people and Kinemon couldn't do together.

there’s no such thing as commander level

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

there’s no such thing as commander level

Whatever its just a term people use to communicate easier. What you want me to say Ashura is Jack level and Dukes is smoothie level. Lol

 

[Lukegranders]

Whatever its just a term people use to communicate easier. What you want me to say Ashura is Jack level and Dukes is smoothie level. Lol

Commander level is too broad of a level

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Commander level is too broad of a level

YC is the perfect term for the Yonko's heavy hitters.

 

[Courier]

yall sanji fans better hope zoro stays on the roof... because if he doenst hes the one fighting king lmao

Orochi is a better fight for injured zoro .

 

[NAMELESS]

Sanji vs King is necessary to keep monster trio dynamic alive!

 

[Cinera]

Sanji vs king

:cheers:

Glad people like @Cinera are seeing the light. Zoro fans will be mad when it happens but who cares.

I am highly confident Zoro's main fight is Kaido, so I don't think Zoro will fight King.

There are some compelling arguments in favour of Sanji vs King:

• Sanji and King seem to have some build-up
  • They already had an actual confrontation earlier in the arc.
    • Contrast this with the complete lack of build-up for Zoro vs King.
  • King is most focused on killing Momonosuke
    • Sanji rescued Momonosuke from King already (thus thwarting his plans)
    • Sanji may have headed to rescue Momonosuke in the latest chapter
• Marco told King that he's up against the New Generation.
  • Marco is himself not a part of this generation.
• The Strawhats seem set to defeat Kaido's executives:
  • The Tobi Roppo appear to be matched against Strawhats:
    • Usopp vs Pay Pay
    • Nami vs Ulti
    • Robin & Brook vs Black Maria
    • Franky vs Sasaki
    • Jimbe vs Who's Who
  • The Calamities might also be matched against Strawhats:
    • Chopper vs Queen
      • With Assistance?
    • ??? vs Jack
      • Yamato?
    • ??? vs King
      • Sanji?
• Sanji vs Queen is looking unlikely
  • Queen's conflict and grudge seem to be much stronger against Chopper and Drake
    • Chopper
      • Queen tried to kill Chopper after Zoro gave him the antidote
      • Chopper has neutralised his viruses twice in a row
      • His subordinates betrayed him to protect Chopper
    • Drake
      • He has already tried to kill Drake
  • Queen mentioned eliminating Sanji in the same breath as eliminating Zoro. He didn't really give eliminating Sanji any special consideration.
  • Sanji and Queen haven't had any confrontation or any real build-up for a fight later down the line
    • In fact, Zoro has had more of a confrontation with Queen
  • Sanji and Queen are only superficially similar opponents with mainly meta reasons suggesting a confrontation between them.
    • The arguments for Sanji vs Queen are the same for Zoro vs King, and as mentioned I don't think Zoro will fight King.

As far as I can tell, unless you think Zoro is facing King as his main opponent, you shouldn't expect Queen to be Sanji's main opponent. Those who claim that Zoro's main opponent is Kaido, but that Sanji's main opponent is Queen are being pretty inconsistent.

Provided that Zoro's main opponent in this arc is in fact Kaido, Sanji facing King is more likely than Sanji facing Queen.

The main caveats that are holding me back from endorsing Sanji vs King are:

• There's still a significant chance that Zoro defeats King
  • While there's no in-story reason to expect Zoro to defeat King, there are very strong meta reasons to expect Zoro to defeat King:
    • Zoro has always faced the strongest subordinate(s) of the arc antagonist:
      • Cabaji
      • Nyaban Brothers
      • Hatchan
      • Daz Bones
      • Ohm
      • Kaku
      • Ryuma
      • Hyouzou
      • Monet
      • Pica
    • Zoro has faced all formidable swordsmen opponents:
      • Cabaji
      • Mihawk
      • Hatchan
      • Ohm
      • Captain T-Bone
      • Kaku
      • Ryuma
      • Hyouzou
    • A non-Zoro Strawhat defeating the arc antagonist's strongest subordinate is unprecedented
    • A non-Zoro Strawhat defeating a formidable swordsman opponent is unprecedented
    • In conclusion, Sanji defeating King would require two unprecedented events to happen
• Similarly, there are meta reasons to expect Sanji to defeat Queen
  • Sanji normally defeats the arc antagonist's second strongest subordinate
    • Kuroobi
    • Bon Clay
    • Jabra
    • Absalom
    • Wadatsumi
      • Albeit he shared him with Jinbe
  • Sanji and Queen share some superficial similarities
    • Both of them love women
    • Both of them grieved over the death of Komurasaki
    • Queen seems to be goofy like some of Sanji's opponents
      • Bon Clay comes to mind
    • Queen also uses the power of science to fight
• While it was an offhand comment, Queen seems to have some history with Sanji's father

All the above said, until Zoro is yeeted from the Kaido fight, I find Sanji vs King more probable than Sanji vs Queen. And even if Zoro does leave the Kaido fight to defeat King, Queen still has a much bigger grudge against — and much more build-up for a confrontation with — Chopper/Drake. So even if Zoro ends up fighting King, it's not enough to say that Sanji soloing Queen is now the most likely outcome.

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[Doggo]

I am highly confident Zoro's main fight is Kaido, so I don't think Zoro will fight King.

There are some compelling arguments in favour of Sanji vs King:

• Sanji and King seem to have some build-up
  • They already had an actual confrontation earlier in the arc.
    • Contrast this with the complete lack of build-up for Zoro vs King.
  • King is most focused on killing Momonosuke
    • Sanji rescued Momonosuke from King already (thus thwarting his plans)
    • Sanji may have headed to rescue Momonosuke in the latest chapter
• Marco told King that he's up against the New Generation.
  • Marco is himself not a part of this generation.
• The Strawhats seem set to defeat Kaido's executives:
  • The Tobi Roppo appear to be matched against Strawhats:
    • Usopp vs Pay Pay
    • Nami vs Ulti
    • Robin & Brook vs Black Maria
    • Franky vs Sasaki
    • Jimbe vs Who's Who
  • The Calamities might also be matched against Strawhats:
    • Chopper vs Queen
      • With Assistance?
    • ??? vs Jack
      • Yamato?
    • ??? vs King
      • Sanji?
• Sanji vs Queen is looking unlikely
  • Queen's conflict and grudge seem to be much stronger against Chopper and Drake
    • Chopper
      • Chopper has neutralised his viruses twice in a row
      • His subordinates betrayed him to protect Chopper
    • Drake
      • He has already tried to kill Drake
  • Queen mentioned eliminating Sanji in the same breath as eliminating Zoro. He didn't really give eliminating Sanji any special consideration.
  • Sanji and Queen haven't had any confrontation or any real build-up for a fight later down the line
    • In fact, Zoro has had more of a confrontation with Queen
  • Sanji and Queen are only superficially similar opponents with mainly meta reasons suggesting a confrontation between them.
    • The arguments for Sanji vs Queen are the same for Zoro vs King, and as mentioned I don't think Zoro will fight King.

As far as I can tell, unless you think Zoro is facing King as his main opponent, you shouldn't expect Queen to be Sanji's main opponent. Those who claim that Zoro's main opponent is Kaido, but that Sanji's main opponent is Queen are being pretty inconsistent.

Provided that Zoro's main opponent in this arc is in fact Kaido, Sanji facing King is more likely than Sanji facing Queen.

The main caveats that are holding me back from endorsing Sanji vs King are:

• There's still a significant chance that Zoro defeats King
  • While there's no in-story reason to expect Zoro to defeat King, there are very strong meta reasons to expect Zoro to defeat King:
    • Zoro has always faced the strongest subordinates of the arc antagonist
      • Cabaji
      • Nyaban Brothers
      • Hatchan
      • Daz Bones
      • Ohm
      • Kaku
      • Ryuma
      • Hyouzou
      • Monet
      • Pica
    • Zoro has faced all formidable swordsmen opponents
      • Cabaji
      • Mihawk
      • Hatchan
      • Ohm
      • Captain T-Bone
      • Kaku
      • Ryuma
      • Hyouzou
    • A non-Zoro Strawhat defeating the arc antagonist's strongest subordinate is unprecedented
    • A non-Zoro Strawhat defeating a formidable swordsman opponent is unprecedented
    • In conclusion, Sanji defeating King would require two unprecedented events to happen
• Similarly, there are meta reasons to expect Sanji to defeat Queen
  • Sanji normally defeats the arc antagonist's second strongest subordinate
    • Kuroobi
    • Bon Clay
    • Jabra
    • Absalom
    • Wadatsumi
      • Albeit he shared him with Jinbe
  • Sanji and Queen share some superficial similarities
    • Both of them love women
    • Both of them grieved over the death of Komurasaki
    • Queen seems to be goofy like some of Sanji's opponents
      • Bon Clay comes to mind
    • Queen also uses the power of science to fight
• While it was an offhand comment, Queen seems to have some history with Sanji's father

All the above said, until Zoro is yeeted from the Kaido fight, I find Sanji vs King more probable than Sanji vs Queen. And even if Zoro does leave the Kaido fight to defeat King, Queen still has a much bigger grudge against — and much more build-up for a confrontation with — Chopper/Drake. So even if Zoro ends up fighting King, it's not enough to say that Sanji soloing Queen is now the most likely outcome.

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