the thing is Carrot doesn’t have any physical attributes related to sky theme. Jinbe is fishman race (sea), Yamato is oni race (land). Not to mention that Jinbe is representative of Poseidon, and Yamato is representative of Pluton. Another crew who has sky physical attribute & representative of Uranus sounds more like it. It’s just my theory anyway
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An actual future straw hat:
You'd think after saving countless lives by stalling Kaido on Luffy's behalf that he might finally respect her name after she corrected him. But nah, Yamao, Yamao, Yamao.
Luffy is calling Yamato Yama-o because he is probably confused with the male/Oden persona
Just like Luffy calls Law Tora-O because his name is difficult (for Luffy) even though he literally wants Law in the crew (someone who has interacted with Luffy more times than Carrot's panels in Wano)
Luffy is calling Yamato Yama-o because he is probably confused with the male/Oden persona
Luffy is calling Yamato Yama-o because he is probably confused with the male/Oden persona
Another thing this chapter did do is put some more light on Yamao's relationship with the samurai.
My post from a year ago.
Kaido's declaration that the samurai will never accept her and that she'll always be alone is huge set up for subversion. Wano literally created their own worst nightmare through their treatment of Orochi. Accepting Yamao as one of their samurai will not only allow Yamao to have some friends but it will prove Wano citizens have learnt their lesson. Entrusting her to protect their shogun could be the climax of this plot. If you look at the people she's actually become friends with you'll realise that it isn't the straw hats. None bar Luffy even know who she is. Her real bonds are forming with Momo, Shinobu, the people of Wano.
Law's a strong ally, not a straw hat. Him and Luffy mutually call each other nicknames and neither are bothered at all by it. Whereas Yamao has corrected Luffy, told him her name multiple times and he still doesn't care. You won't find that disrespect with any straw hat. Once they tell Luffy their name he'll remember it and call them by that name from then on. If he doesn't know their name he'll call them what they are (Chopper = Reindeer). But he'll never mishmash their name like he's done with Yamao. We never saw him call Chopper "Choppo" or Usopp "Uso".
Lol, you're confused. Being called by your actual name alone doesn't mean you're going to join the crew. But on the flip side, if you aren't called by your name then you probably won't, since Luffy is always sure to remember the names of his future nakama before they even get on the ship.
Kaido's declaration that the samurai will never accept her and that she'll always be alone is huge set up for subversion. Wano literally created their own worst nightmare through their treatment of Orochi. Accepting Yamao as one of their samurai will not only allow Yamao to have some friends but it will prove Wano citizens have learnt their lesson. Entrusting her to protect their shogun could be the climax of this plot. If you look at the people she's actually become friends with you'll realise that it isn't the straw hats. None bar Luffy even know who she is. Her real bonds are forming with Momo, Shinobu, the people of Wano.
Just like Luffy calls Law Tora-O because his name is difficult (for Luffy) even though he literally wants Law in the crew (someone who has interacted with Luffy more times than Carrot's panels in Wano)
Luffy is calling Yamato Yama-o because he is probably confused with the male/Oden persona
Luffy is calling Yamato Yama-o because he is probably confused with the male/Oden persona
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Kaido & Buggy are confirmed Strawhats
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That’s every time Carrot has appeared in the manga in 2021…
…It’s nearly September.
And look at that for a “comeback“ after her big absence, she’s paired with Wanda in a tiny little panel and overshadowed totally by Neko.
Now, Jinbei was absent for the first chunk of WCI, but look at the comeback he got
And here’s Brook, who went missing for the first bit of TB, making his dramatic return
Difference between how a Strawhat-in-waiting is treated compared to Carrot is night and day.
Another thing this chapter did do is put some more light on Yamao's relationship with the samurai.
My post from a year ago.
Kaido's declaration that the samurai will never accept her and that she'll always be alone is huge set up for subversion. Wano literally created their own worst nightmare through their treatment of Orochi. Accepting Yamao as one of their samurai will not only allow Yamao to have some friends but it will prove Wano citizens have learnt their lesson. Entrusting her to protect their shogun could be the climax of this plot. If you look at the people she's actually become friends with you'll realise that it isn't the straw hats. None bar Luffy even know who she is. Her real bonds are forming with Momo, Shinobu, the people of Wano.
Law's a strong ally, not a straw hat. Him and Luffy mutually call each other nicknames and neither are bothered at all by it. Whereas Yamao has corrected Luffy, told him her name multiple times and he still doesn't care. You won't find that disrespect with any straw hat. Once they tell Luffy their name he'll remember it and call them by that name from then on. If he doesn't know their name he'll call them what they are (Chopper = Reindeer). But he'll never mishmash their name like he's done with Yamao. We never saw him call Chopper "Choppo" or Usopp "Uso".
Lol, you're confused. Being called by your actual name alone doesn't mean you're going to join the crew. But on the flip side, if you aren't called by your name then you probably won't, since Luffy is always sure to remember the names of his future nakama before they even get on the ship.
My post from a year ago.
Kaido's declaration that the samurai will never accept her and that she'll always be alone is huge set up for subversion. Wano literally created their own worst nightmare through their treatment of Orochi. Accepting Yamao as one of their samurai will not only allow Yamao to have some friends but it will prove Wano citizens have learnt their lesson. Entrusting her to protect their shogun could be the climax of this plot. If you look at the people she's actually become friends with you'll realise that it isn't the straw hats. None bar Luffy even know who she is. Her real bonds are forming with Momo, Shinobu, the people of Wano.
Law's a strong ally, not a straw hat. Him and Luffy mutually call each other nicknames and neither are bothered at all by it. Whereas Yamao has corrected Luffy, told him her name multiple times and he still doesn't care. You won't find that disrespect with any straw hat. Once they tell Luffy their name he'll remember it and call them by that name from then on. If he doesn't know their name he'll call them what they are (Chopper = Reindeer). But he'll never mishmash their name like he's done with Yamao. We never saw him call Chopper "Choppo" or Usopp "Uso".
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Lol, you're confused. Being called by your actual name alone doesn't mean you're going to join the crew. But on the flip side, if you aren't called by your name then you probably won't, since Luffy is always sure to remember the names of his future nakama before they even get on the ship.
What's warrant such disinterest from Luffy?
It's worth nothing that the few times Luffy initially got a future crewmate name wrong, he immediately got them right after being corrected. Yamato got angry at the nickname and did correct him and even spelled her name syllable by syllable for him. Still calling her Yamao after that scene
What's warrant such disinterest from Luffy?
What's warrant such disinterest from Luffy?
-Luffy doesn't know Brook's name so calls him some random shit.
-Brook tells Luffy his name
-Luffy IMMEDIATELY calls him Brook and nothing but Brook from then on and always
He just doesn't give enough fucks about Yamao to bother correcting himself. Shame.
Carrot will join despite:
Having only one flashback that is just one panel, just half a page of Pedro giving her the electro claws, her flashback is shorter than even Kaido's, or even Tama's for that matter
Never the main character or central to the plot of any arc she's been in- lacking her own main character arc, despite existing for almost 3 arcs now
Off paneled by a previous arc's side antagonist and not a antagonist of the current arc
Never fought a prominent member of the Beast Pirates like every straw hat and Yamato, only fought and got off paneled by Perospero-a previous arc's side character who isn't even a Beast Pirate. No Kaido, no Calamity, no Topi Roppo
Not fitting in the pattern for female crew members like Nami or Robin of previously being subordinates of antagonists that Luffy have fought
Oda completely abandoning the confrontation of Carrot vs Jack, the one who did the most harm to the minks and Carrot's people
Oda completely abandoning Carrot's revenge, giving Perospero to Neko
Removing Carrot from the other minks participating in the rooftop fight against Jack and Kaido himself, a fight that would've given Carrot importance
Lacking any encounters with Ace or the reaction of his death at the time it happened, probably still doesn't even know who Ace is
Shared her introduction with Wanda, another side character
Traveled with the straw hats to WCI as a stowaway just like Inu and Neko who never went with Roger to Laugh Tale
Yamato won't join even though:
She wants to go on adventures
She wants to sail with the Straw Hats
She sees Luffy to lead the next era of pirates
She's fighting with Luffy right now
She has a connection to Ace and a promise between the two that was unfulfilled
She has no friends on Wano
Has the closest personal ties to a main arc villian of any previous straw hat who joined, this time being Kaido's biological daughter.
fits in with the pattern of Nami and Robin who joined as the subordinates of former enemies
Arlong-Top Pirate in East Blue>Nami
Crocodile- First Warlord the crew met in Grandline>Robin
Kaido- Yonko of New World>Yamato
She has already fought Kaido and Ulti
Already having two flashbacks already, one with Ace and another one when she was small
Met Luffy alone in the attic
Wanted to sail the seas even before she read Oden's journal
Luffy coming to Yamato's aid this chapter right after Kaido knocked her down after saying that as Oni, Yamato has no friends
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Having only one flashback that is just one panel, just half a page of Pedro giving her the electro claws, her flashback is shorter than even Kaido's, or even Tama's for that matter
Never the main character or central to the plot of any arc she's been in- lacking her own main character arc, despite existing for almost 3 arcs now
Off paneled by a previous arc's side antagonist and not a antagonist of the current arc
Never fought a prominent member of the Beast Pirates like every straw hat and Yamato, only fought and got off paneled by Perospero-a previous arc's side character who isn't even a Beast Pirate. No Kaido, no Calamity, no Topi Roppo
Not fitting in the pattern for female crew members like Nami or Robin of previously being subordinates of antagonists that Luffy have fought
Oda completely abandoning the confrontation of Carrot vs Jack, the one who did the most harm to the minks and Carrot's people
Oda completely abandoning Carrot's revenge, giving Perospero to Neko
Removing Carrot from the other minks participating in the rooftop fight against Jack and Kaido himself, a fight that would've given Carrot importance
Lacking any encounters with Ace or the reaction of his death at the time it happened, probably still doesn't even know who Ace is
Shared her introduction with Wanda, another side character
Traveled with the straw hats to WCI as a stowaway just like Inu and Neko who never went with Roger to Laugh Tale
Yamato won't join even though:
She wants to go on adventures
She wants to sail with the Straw Hats
She sees Luffy to lead the next era of pirates
She's fighting with Luffy right now
She has a connection to Ace and a promise between the two that was unfulfilled
She has no friends on Wano
Has the closest personal ties to a main arc villian of any previous straw hat who joined, this time being Kaido's biological daughter.
fits in with the pattern of Nami and Robin who joined as the subordinates of former enemies
Arlong-Top Pirate in East Blue>Nami
Crocodile- First Warlord the crew met in Grandline>Robin
Kaido- Yonko of New World>Yamato
She has already fought Kaido and Ulti
Already having two flashbacks already, one with Ace and another one when she was small
Met Luffy alone in the attic
Wanted to sail the seas even before she read Oden's journal
Luffy coming to Yamato's aid this chapter right after Kaido knocked her down after saying that as Oni, Yamato has no friends
Logic 101
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let me post the double spread of Yamato smacking Kaido with Luffy (again) to make people get saltier than ever. After small, irrelevant panel of Carrot shared with Wanda, Oda decided to give Yamato flashback + tag attack with Luffy, the captain himself & completely ignoring Carrot. What a great day to see salty people get saltier that they become more and more delusional
This chapter also called back to one of the very first things we saw from Yamao regarding the Oden nonsense.
-Luffy told her that there's no way she could be Oden because he was someone loved by everyone.
-Kaido told her that she's alone and she will never be able to be friends with humans.
This fits in very well with my idea of Yamao and Momo opening Wano's borders together. You've got Momo, someone whose plot has been about learning to work with others and not do things solo. And then Yamao who wants to make friends and work alongside humans. Perfect for them to go together to form friendly connections with nations around the world and ask for their aid in the upcoming war.
That retains Yamao's admiration for Oden, but presents it in a far healthier and reasonable manner. She'll still be Yamao, but she'll also be like Oden through the amount of friends and people that admire her. All whilst travelling with Momo, the guy that looks exactly like the actual Oden. Perfect. Everyone's happy.
-Luffy told her that there's no way she could be Oden because he was someone loved by everyone.
-Kaido told her that she's alone and she will never be able to be friends with humans.
This fits in very well with my idea of Yamao and Momo opening Wano's borders together. You've got Momo, someone whose plot has been about learning to work with others and not do things solo. And then Yamao who wants to make friends and work alongside humans. Perfect for them to go together to form friendly connections with nations around the world and ask for their aid in the upcoming war.
That retains Yamao's admiration for Oden, but presents it in a far healthier and reasonable manner. She'll still be Yamao, but she'll also be like Oden through the amount of friends and people that admire her. All whilst travelling with Momo, the guy that looks exactly like the actual Oden. Perfect. Everyone's happy.
An actual future straw hat:
You'd think after saving countless lives by stalling Kaido on Luffy's behalf that he might finally respect her name after she corrected him. But nah, Yamao, Yamao, Yamao.
Besides Luffy has called Law by his name a couple of times
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I didn't miss it, it's just not important when looking at the story up until now. Oda happened to say "when you're on his crew", but by simply looking at Luffy's interactions with future straw hats you can see that this pattern was the same before they joined too. He never mishmashed their names from the second they told him what it was. This was all before they joined. Oda's not gonna say "Luffy will always call future straw hats by their proper name". That's just a weird a response to the question he was asked. The more natural thing to say is that once you're his nakama he'll call you by your name.
Could Luffy drop the nickname and decide to call Yamao by her proper name if she joins? Sure. Has that happened before for a straw hat in the last 1000+ chapters? No. Therefore whilst it's not impossible, it's pretty unlikely.
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