Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1064 Spoilers Discussion

[Peroroncino]

What is an AdmiraL?
same as YC2

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung
@Tejas
@MarineHQ
@Extravlad
@MonsterKaido

 

[L55]

Yes. Absolute insanity. Kuzan washes any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Not acording to oda

 

[gz89]

Except Shock Wille completely bypassed her defenses, so no haki would've saved her.

Shock Wille or Puncture Wille bypassing Big Meme's doesnt mean shit cuz withoud Kidd and bombs the outcome would be different.

Good luck to Law doing the same move to Kaido, next minute Kaido would be up on his feet and Law would be fucked.

 

[SakazukiTheFist]

So currently the main course is Kuzan vs Shiryu?

It won't last much, that's for sure.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Yep
Prime ray oden shyriu beckman are all >admirals
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Dude if it was the case then oda needs to change the spread lol next chapters
Not gonna happe since shyriu>

I'm only using facts, real portrayal, Admirals have negative portrayal against the stronger RHM, Beckman's portrayal gets dismissed all the time probably because he isn't a nobody like the next strongest RHP.
Power that rivals Shanks, haki above Admirals, can stop Admirals from using their element, Kizaru is afraid of him but then we see threads calling him a fraud and that he's nowhere near... Kizaru's level

 

[MarineHQ]

Not acording to oda

Oda said you're lying

 

[ShishioIsBack]

He obviously has Adv CoA being a strong swordsman. CoC, not so sure but given the parallel with Beckman who i think has CoC it's possible

Regardless AdvCoA I am not sure is enough to put him at far above YC1 level.

Zoro on roof top had Ashura to he on that level. Base Zoro capped at YC1 level

Zoro needed advCoC to be a low top tier.

Again I basically think Shiryu and Magallen were Low Top tiers as Impel Down Jailers.

Now Shiryu got a fruit which he can potentially awaken.

There is a lot of potential there
That's all I am saying

 

[L55]

Oda said you're lying

He did
But the admiral fanboys can t let u see it

 

[MarineHQ]

Regardless AdvCoA I am not sure is enough to put him at far above YC1 level.

Zoro on roof top had Ashura to he on that level. Base Zoro capped at YC1 level

Zoro needed advCoC to be a low top tier.

Again I basically think Shiryu and Magallen were Low Top tiers as Impel Down Jailers.

Now Shiryu got a fruit which he can potentially awaken.

There is a lot of potential there
That's all I am saying

Yes there definitely is. I personally don't buy the Evil Oden thing but who knows. Shiryu is a cheap-shotter, he won't charge at Adv CoC Zoro head on. The fight with him will be Shiryu ducking open fire using his fruit then getting one shot per usual Zoro fight ending.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Shiryu is obviously closer to admirals than to regular commanders.

Blackbeard is still wary of him even now

2 is closer to 10 than 1 is. Doesn't mean 2>10,
Or that 2 is near 10.

 

[Buusatan94]

When Big Mom will come back, she's most likely going to have amnesia again and another mind swipe.

Not that it pleases me, but I guess that the only way she and her crew could show their worth without being handicapped or mistreated by the plot is with them being on the Straw Hats' side, which the kidnapping of Pudding is obviously an excuse for the BMP to become allies of the Straw Hats.

 

[Franosuke]

Oda said you're lying

Kuzan vs. Shiryu is a much more interesting debate than y'all are giving it credit for, though

Remember, Kuzan might not be the same combatant he used to be after fighting Sakazuki. That, and Zoro already defeated a YC1--I'm pretty sure almost everyone expects Shiryu to be MUCH stronger than the commanders we've seen so far

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

Shock Wille or Puncture Wille bypassing Big Meme's doesnt mean shit cuz withoud Kidd and bombs the outcome would be different.

Good luck to Law doing the same move to Kaido, next minute Kaido would be up on his feet and Law would be fucked.

Law Shock Wille > any move of Zoro's

 

[Reborn]

2 is closer to 10 than 1 is. Doesn't mean 2>10,
Or that 2 is near 10.

What is this logic lmao

 

[Franosuke]

2 is closer to 10 than 1 is. Doesn't mean 2>10,
Or that 2 is near 10.

That's not what I said.

I said Shiryu is closer to admirals than HE is to commanders.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

What is this logic lmao

It's the monochromosome theory

 

[Shisui]

All fruit users are cowards then

Yh except Shilew is a bigger coward than the rest. How many admiral tier combatants do you know hide from their opponents to sneak an attack??? My man is the Usopp of the BB pirates

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Shiryu is obviously closer to admirals than to regular commanders.

Blackbeard is still wary of him even now

Honestly like shiryu is incredibly strong he was close to Magellan pre timeskip (who I rate above any commander) And has a strong devil fruit

And is Zoros last fight before Mihawk an emperor class fighter… like I don’t get why Shiryu at least being close to Aokiji is a weird take. I’m trolling saying he’s above him; but saying Aokiji negs seems unfair

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Wouldn

I will say I’ve always hoped for the BB pirates vs M3 fights to be about the Monster trio to have to fight without their main powers:

Luffy fighting without his DF
Zoro fighting without his swords
Sanji fighting without his fire

Luffys devil fruit we know gets cancelled by the Yami Yami no Mi
Zoros swords can be completely “cleared” if Shiryu awakens his fruits allowing him to turn objects intangible and invisible
Sanji I hoped Lafitte would be able to erase oxygen with whatever flying fruit he has, but it would work with Kuzan as well since his cold was able to cancel out magma the hottest substance in OP
:cheers:

I like the idea but wouldn’t sanjis be fighting with his hands ? Not using diable jambe is still his normal fighting style.

 

[MarineHQ]

Kuzan vs. Shiryu is a much more interesting debate than y'all are giving it credit for, though

Remember, Kuzan might not be the same combatant he used to be after fighting Sakazuki. That, and Zoro already defeated a YC1--I'm pretty sure almost everyone expects Shiryu to be MUCH stronger than the commanders we've seen so far

The Matchup is very important. It will be two swordsman that specialise in two very different ways of fighting. Zoro is straight up charging at you head on while Shiryu is using trickery and finding ways to cheap shot you.
That battle will just further polish Zoro's observation haki to get ready for Mihawk.