Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

but I don't believe there will ever be a solid conclusion.

I'm not so sure.

She basically is saying JD has to be alt right because he likes Lord of the Rings.

Actually that's not what she said. She said that Lord of the ring is a favorite in the far right. (I don't know who she is btw)

Which is different.

Indeed, we must understand that in Lord of the Rings, there were a LOT of racist biases. Those could be what she is referencing here as the far right might take those dog whistle and uses them for their agenda.

But it only means that the Lord of the Rings is used by the Far right, that's all.

Its the same thing with antisemits and Celestial Dragon in One Piece (although in this case, its not because of a Racist bias of Oda, simple because of a comparizon with their antisemitic agenda and the "jew lobby" they claim to be existing)

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I'm sorry that you have such a disposition.

To me, if it's funny, it's funny, even when it's against my side.

I'd rather be seen as a grump than to engage in such inflammatory speech. It creates resentment and division over time.

A few snarky memes here and there? That's fair game. But to actually create a whole culture where people profit off of creating political instability when it's not even relevant to policy is beyond dystopian. It rots brains.

 

[Zemmi]

I'm not so sure.



Actually that's not what she said. She said that Lord of the ring is a favorite in the far right. (I don't know who she is btw)

Which is different.

Indeed, we must understand that in Lord of the Rings, there were a LOT of racist biases. Those could be what she is referencing here as the far right might take those dog whistle and uses them for their agenda.

But it only means that the Lord of the Rings is used by the Far right, that's all.

Its the same thing with antisemits and Celestial Dragon in One Piece (although in this case, its not because of a Racist bias of Oda, simple because of a comparizon with their antisemitic agenda and the "jew lobby" they claim to be existing)

I understand nothing of the story. But it's basically what she said because if everyone loves it (which I believe they do?), it wouldn't make JD a alt right by using it. So her comparison wouldn't make sense unless only alt right did that.

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I'd rather be seen as a grump than to engage in such inflammatory speech. It creates resentment and division over time.

A few snarky memes here and there? That's fair game. But to actually create a whole culture where people profit off of creating political instability when it's not even relevant to policy is beyond dystopian. It rots brains.

Btw, there is nothing wrong with admitting there are some crazies on your side. Like I said the other day, it would take an act of god for me to like Marjorie Taylor Greene. Matt Walsh is another I'm not a fan of.

 

[Logiko]

But to actually create a whole culture where people profit off of creating political instability when it's not even relevant to policy is beyond dystopian. It rots brains.

What are you describing here ?

if everyone loves it (which I believe they do?), it wouldn't make JD a alt right by using it

That's not what I heard in the first clip, she said:

"Lord of the Rings is a sort of favorite for a lot of far rights and alt right figures" And then continue in explaining that a lot of those folks are naming their brand after The lord of the Ring serie or language.

In reality, she doesn't even imply that being fan of this franchise makes you a far right, only the commentator says this. She is simply explaining that those far right love to take stuff from pop culture. Which is indeed something that far rightist tend to do a lot especially to use those stuff as dog whitles. And its important to note that usage pattern to identify those Dog whitles.

So no, she is simply explaining a reality and you can still be a fan of the franchise without being a nazi



(The commentator on the other hand... is completely lost)

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Btw, there is nothing wrong with admitting there are some crazies on your side. Like I said the other day, it would take an act of god for me to like Marjorie Taylor Greene. Matt Walsh is another I'm not a fan of.

I'm not on the side of the likes of Rachel Maddow. She's the enemy in my eyes. So are Republicans, so are 98% of Democrats. I know exactly where I stand.

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What are you describing here ?

Right-wing grifters. Gamergate type incels. Dailywire adjacent channels. Any channel that dedicates it's whole existence to "dunk on wokies" or "trigger the libs."

 

[Logiko]

Right-wing grifters. Gamergate type incels. Dailywire adjacent channels. Any channel that dedicates it's whole existence to "dunk of wokies" or "trigger the libs."

Oh I see.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Idc what y'all think, but actual evil is making decisions in the US. Trumps near assassination was one of their goals.

 

[Logiko]

Idc what y'all think, but actual evil is making decisions in the US. Trumps near assassination was one of their goals.

To do what ?
Make Trump win the election ?
For what reason liberals would do that exactly ?

 

[Ravagerblade]

To do what ?
Make Trump win the election ?
For what reason liberals would do that exactly ?

This goes far above your head. And your silly bullshit.

 

[Logiko]

This goes far above your head. And your silly bullshit.

Go on, enlighten us

For what reason would liberals prepare a fake or even a real assassination ?

What would liberals have to gain in creating a martyr out of Trump ?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Go on, enlighten us

For what reason would liberals prepare a fake or even a real assassination ?

What would liberals have to gain in creating a martyr out of Trump ?

You're thinking way to small.

 

[Logiko]

You're thinking way to small.

Or maybe I'm trying to make you come back to Earth because I recognize the rethoric of someone falling into conspirationnism?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You're thinking way to small.

Bro, we all know you don’t have an actual retort. Stop talking out of your ass for five seconds and use that pea you like to call a brain.

 

[Mathias]

Go on, enlighten us

For what reason would liberals prepare a fake or even a real assassination ?

What would liberals have to gain in creating a martyr out of Trump ?

Assassination of Trump wouldn't necessarily "lead toward worse". Although this would be a tricky card to play as always with assassinating political leaders. Especially at the age of internet.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Assassination of Trump wouldn't necessarily "lead toward worse". Although this would be a tricky card to play as always with assassinating political leaders. Especially at the age of internet.

Bro is too big and has 30% of the country groveling at his feet (Ravager is the perfect example of this)

shit would’ve hit the fan if he had actually died and these lunatics would’ve responded in kind. Violence is not the way we get rid of Trump and the threat he represents.

In actuality, you’ll never get rid of them, you just gotta keep beating them politically until eventually they become irrelevant once again.

 

[Mathias]

Bro is too big and has 30% of the country groveling at his feet (Ravager is the perfect example of this)

shit would’ve hit the fan if he had actually died and these lunatics would’ve responded in kind. Violence is not the way we get rid of Trump and the threat he represents.

In actuality, you’ll never get rid of them, you just gotta keep beating them politically until eventually they become irrelevant once again.

Just saying that it wouldn't necessarily lead to more violence. And yes it's a tricky move because it depends on many things including how politicians and the media would have treated his death. Although I don't really understand how they would have "responded in kind" because the shooter wasn't even liberal... I mean, I guess they could still respond in kind as dumb as they are

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Zuckerberg is emotional about Trump
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HnTUHN1WOjI

Anyone who is denying that is not telling the truth to be honest, regardless of how you feel about him.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Just saying that it wouldn't necessarily lead to more violence.

It 100% would. Much more likely to have civil war in America if it happens. It's already very bad as it is.

It's in everyone's interest to have Trump in so things calm down a little bit. Trump isn't the solution though.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Just saying that it wouldn't necessarily lead to more violence. And yes it's a tricky move because it depends on many things including how politicians and the media would have treated his death. Although I don't really understand how they would have "responded in kind" because the shooter wasn't even liberal... I mean, I guess they could still respond in kind as dumb as they are

You think they actually care about the truth? Oh my sweet summer child, dumb republicans have no interest in such things, liberals aren’t much better either.

But I assure you, it would’ve led to a shit ton of violence. These mfs are raring for it, nothing would make them happier than an excuse to go ham.

Even if all the info about the shooter had come out quickly after Trump’s death, mfs wouldve still made shit up.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Assassination of Trump wouldn't necessarily "lead toward worse". Although this would be a tricky card to play as always with assassinating political leaders. Especially at the age of internet.

Trump was shot at bcs of one 3 following reasons

1. To make a martyr from him and make Republicans sweep election

2. Because of Epstein leak about Trump raping minors

3. Trump not following rhetoric of far right to the T

I doubt this was liberals doing, it gives them no advantage