Character Discussion "Kaido, the strongest pirate" - how valid are characters statements?
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Okie.
Mihawk>Kaido though.
Mihawk. The true strongest entity.
Okie.
Mihawk>Kaido though.
The best part comes when he dies and the wars start about who is the new strongest one. 
Anyway it's obvious that Killer excuded no pirate group when he said that Kaido was the Strongest Pirate in the world whenever they are ordinary pirates, Worst Gen, now ex-Warlords and the Emperors.
Even if his statement doesn't end up true he certainely see Kaido as above Mihawk and Blackbeard such as he is right now for the time being.
Even if his statement doesn't end up true he certainely see Kaido as above Mihawk and Blackbeard such as he is right now for the time being.
No worries. I gotta make this quick too since I gotta go to work in 20 minutes lmfao.
No it does not mean that it weakened his haki, rather his reactions. He couldn't dodge it.
I vaguely remember a databook, I believe @Van has spoken of it before, that mentioned that the only thing impeded in WB's old age and in MF were his reactions.
You don't actually need haki to disturb a logia. Zoro did it to Enel when he cleaved him in half and stopped him. Regardless, we don't know if WB used haki then or not.
Same reason Sengoku or Doffy or Hancook or Ace or <insert any random character that was in MF who will show COC in the future> didn't. It was reserved for the MC. During the entire arc only the MC used it.
Imu or BB certainly. But I'll leave that aside for now, since BB is a character that grows exponentially and Imu is an unknown.
Say Shanks then. Kaido and Shanks had a scuffle that ended with Kaido hauling his ass back to Wano.
He has 7 confirmed Ls and 18 times being captured.
He took on the Yonko but we saw when the Yonko fight crewmates don't interfere
1. Shanks vs WB
2. Kaido vs Linlin
It's more than reasonable to assume one of those Ls came in a 1 on 1 fight. However, due to Kaido's nature of seeking battles and showing up in places all of a sudden, it's enough to entertain the idea that Kaido fights people a lot, and wins, but those people are not top tiers. People like the F6 which were captains before, SN, etc. That's why people bet on him in a 1 on 1 fight. Because most of those he wins, but more than likely because he fights opponents beneath his level. This last part is speculation, I'll admit that, but still valid.
This part was more of a generalization, not necessarily aimed towards you, rather the abundance of people who do it non stop.
EDIT: Apologies if I skipped something or won't reply in some time, I have to start work now
No it does not mean that it weakened his haki, rather his reactions. He couldn't dodge it.
I vaguely remember a databook, I believe @Van has spoken of it before, that mentioned that the only thing impeded in WB's old age and in MF were his reactions.
You don't actually need haki to disturb a logia. Zoro did it to Enel when he cleaved him in half and stopped him. Regardless, we don't know if WB used haki then or not.
Same reason Sengoku or Doffy or Hancook or Ace or <insert any random character that was in MF who will show COC in the future> didn't. It was reserved for the MC. During the entire arc only the MC used it.
Imu or BB certainly. But I'll leave that aside for now, since BB is a character that grows exponentially and Imu is an unknown.
Say Shanks then. Kaido and Shanks had a scuffle that ended with Kaido hauling his ass back to Wano.
He has 7 confirmed Ls and 18 times being captured.
He took on the Yonko but we saw when the Yonko fight crewmates don't interfere
1. Shanks vs WB
2. Kaido vs Linlin
It's more than reasonable to assume one of those Ls came in a 1 on 1 fight. However, due to Kaido's nature of seeking battles and showing up in places all of a sudden, it's enough to entertain the idea that Kaido fights people a lot, and wins, but those people are not top tiers. People like the F6 which were captains before, SN, etc. That's why people bet on him in a 1 on 1 fight. Because most of those he wins, but more than likely because he fights opponents beneath his level. This last part is speculation, I'll admit that, but still valid.
This part was more of a generalization, not necessarily aimed towards you, rather the abundance of people who do it non stop.
EDIT: Apologies if I skipped something or won't reply in some time, I have to start work now
I'd rather not force my opinions on Killer and say he didn't exclude the Warlords and ofc whether he did include them. I've already said, idk, because I don't know.. and neither does anybody else. If it was Smoker or Kizaru saying that, then they'd include the Warlords most likely.
Back to the original topic though, character statements are super tricky:
Big Mom literally gave Kaido a warning and told him to go ahead and try to kill her... If I'm going by sheer character statement. Big Mom views herself superior to Kaido. Big Mom also has more knowledge on Kaido than Killer does.
Killer has never fought against Big Mom herself, so he wouldn't know BM's full might. If the statement is solely his opinion and not repetition of what Kaido is considered as in the OP world, then his opinion is not valid for Big Mom or any other top tier pirate he hasn't fought against.
So how can Kaido fans convincingly say Kaido > Big Mom? Do I ignore Big Mom's statements and only take into account Killer's? Big Mom is also the first Yonko who the main character gets into a direct conflict with, where as with Kaido it was an indirect getting into a war against him.
Back to the original topic though, character statements are super tricky:
Big Mom literally gave Kaido a warning and told him to go ahead and try to kill her... If I'm going by sheer character statement. Big Mom views herself superior to Kaido. Big Mom also has more knowledge on Kaido than Killer does.
Killer has never fought against Big Mom herself, so he wouldn't know BM's full might. If the statement is solely his opinion and not repetition of what Kaido is considered as in the OP world, then his opinion is not valid for Big Mom or any other top tier pirate he hasn't fought against.
So how can Kaido fans convincingly say Kaido > Big Mom? Do I ignore Big Mom's statements and only take into account Killer's? Big Mom is also the first Yonko who the main character gets into a direct conflict with, where as with Kaido it was an indirect getting into a war against him.
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just stop the mental gymnastics
Nobody ,not even oda hype admirals, teach or shanks as Top 1
Your opinions and beliefs don't matter
Oda :
Kaido is the strongest creature and pirate alive.
There's no "but but"
Anyone who state Teach/Akainu/shanks is above kaido is basically saying "Oda you're lying "
I'd rather not force my opinions on Killer and say he didn't exclude the Warlords and ofc whether he did include them. I've already said, idk, because I don't know.. and neither does anybody else. If it was Smoker or Kizaru saying that, then they'd include the Warlords most likely.
Back to the original topic though, character statements are super tricky:
Big Mom literally gave Kaido a warning and told him to go ahead and try to kill her... If I'm going by sheer character statement. Big Mom views herself superior to Kaido. Big Mom also has more knowledge on Kaido than Killer does.
Killer has never fought against Big Mom herself, so he wouldn't know BM's full might. If the statement is solely his opinion and not repetition of what Kaido is considered as in the OP world, then his opinion is not valid for Big Mom or any other top tier pirate he hasn't fought against.
So how can Kaido fans convincingly say Kaido > Big Mom? Do I ignore Big Mom's statements and only take into account Killer's? Big Mom is also the first Yonko who the main character gets into a direct conflict with, where as with Kaido it was an indirect getting into a war against him.
Back to the original topic though, character statements are super tricky:
Big Mom literally gave Kaido a warning and told him to go ahead and try to kill her... If I'm going by sheer character statement. Big Mom views herself superior to Kaido. Big Mom also has more knowledge on Kaido than Killer does.
Killer has never fought against Big Mom herself, so he wouldn't know BM's full might. If the statement is solely his opinion and not repetition of what Kaido is considered as in the OP world, then his opinion is not valid for Big Mom or any other top tier pirate he hasn't fought against.
So how can Kaido fans convincingly say Kaido > Big Mom? Do I ignore Big Mom's statements and only take into account Killer's? Big Mom is also the first Yonko who the main character gets into a direct conflict with, where as with Kaido it was an indirect getting into a war against him.
Nobody ,not even oda hype admirals, teach or shanks as Top 1
Your opinions and beliefs don't matter
Oda :
Kaido is the strongest creature and pirate alive.
There's no "but but"
Anyone who state Teach/Akainu/shanks is above kaido is basically saying "Oda you're lying "
