Yes, as the title suggests, it is about claims done by haters of the respective character about said character that got proven wrong. Those haters don't necessarily have to be fans of the opposite character; not every Zoro hater is at the same time a Sanji fan and vice versa. I also refer to those claims specifically whose purpose is to diminish the strength or relevance of said character.
Character Discussion Zoro vs. Sanji: Who got more W's through proving their haters wrong?
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i agree you're a veteran here when it come to the subject matter and the preface you may call it .. but still some of your takes do involve good chuck of masses from your representative community like the King take..
that's the problem.. that makes both fandoms equally haters innt..
so isn't that an L on both ends?
as we continue notice how this is getting more nuances and complicated
coz now i can come in and say the poll in Sanji fandom indicates that most the leading vote for sanji's matchup was Queen.. hence zoro was oughta fight king logically.... so thats an L on the folks on Z-bois end
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can we then render atleast using L's in this case null coz it beat the point when there is a mix demography when it comes to haters..
coz i too this as Zoro haters vs Sanji haters
aand the gist is only who has more W's regardless
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in that case @Salah WG we're considering just general hatred... tho again @comrade you won't call zoro fans zoro haters now that the demographics are mixed right
thats what's confusing
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so if Zoro fans were wrong about Zoro not fighting King then... they aren't haters RIGHT?! .
bruh
LMAO
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exactly why shared opinions amongst the fandom on 'hatred' seems..
nonsensical now that you thing about it.
that's the problem.. that makes both fandoms equally haters innt..
so isn't that an L on both ends?
as we continue notice how this is getting more nuances and complicated
coz now i can come in and say the poll in Sanji fandom indicates that most the leading vote for sanji's matchup was Queen.. hence zoro was oughta fight king logically.... so thats an L on the folks on Z-bois end
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can we then render atleast using L's in this case null coz it beat the point when there is a mix demography when it comes to haters..
coz i too this as Zoro haters vs Sanji haters
aand the gist is only who has more W's regardless
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in that case @Salah WG we're considering just general hatred... tho again @comrade you won't call zoro fans zoro haters now that the demographics are mixed right
thats what's confusing
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so if Zoro fans were wrong about Zoro not fighting King then... they aren't haters RIGHT?! .
bruh
LMAO
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exactly why shared opinions amongst the fandom on 'hatred' seems..
nonsensical now that you thing about it.
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Yeah. Fans being right or wrong about their liked character doesn't count as a W or L here. It's about getting Ws by proving the haters of said character wrong. :D
Yes, we can also focus on the Ws only, since a W for one character is by default an L for the hater(s).
Did I clarify sufficiently?
Yes, we can also focus on the Ws only, since a W for one character is by default an L for the hater(s).
Did I clarify sufficiently?
can Zoro and sanji get an L and a W for the same thing given the diversity in opinions in the fandom too like
i mean you won't call Zoro fans haters coz a good chunk of sanji fans did opts sanji's match with Queen ( leading poll).. which meant that he'd fight King ultimately yet there was a good chunk of Zoro fan dissing King as well.. so they are haters of zoro who didn't want him to fight King?
so how do you deal with this... and ofc intentions matter many takes have distinct motives.. like some would call wanted Sandia broken by king as plot for ni dai.. but Salah used it as a hate take against zoro..
WWhat have you created comrade
A hater is everyone that hates on the character. Zoro fans can be Sanji haters, but also non-zoro fans can be Sanji haters. (Though in my experience, Zoro has many more haters, even outside of the Sanji fandom)
I think it's best to bring examples :D
That was King hate and Zoro wank. They didn't dismiss the fight with King because they saw Zoro as too weak or insignificant, but saw King as too weak. :D
I think it's best to bring examples :D
That was King hate and Zoro wank. They didn't dismiss the fight with King because they saw Zoro as too weak or insignificant, but saw King as too weak. :D
All of Zoro's W has a negative effect when ZKK doesn't happen.
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The Super W ZKK didn't happen, so Zoro ended up weaker in Wano than expected. ZKK will only happen if Enma was a Shikai and Zoro wakes up transformed just like Ichigo vs Aizen, after going to hell for Enma to evolve into Bankai.
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The Super W ZKK didn't happen, so Zoro ended up weaker in Wano than expected. ZKK will only happen if Enma was a Shikai and Zoro wakes up transformed just like Ichigo vs Aizen, after going to hell for Enma to evolve into Bankai.
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ig i over complicated this a but too much..
if there is a convergence in opinions..ditch the stans focus on the haters.... ig not labeling S-bois and Z-bois.. would help too
just generalize the haters that's it whoever it may be.
being wrong /=/ hater as well.. again helps if i stop labeling folks..
labeling flipin perplexed this
if there is a convergence in opinions..ditch the stans focus on the haters.... ig not labeling S-bois and Z-bois.. would help too
just generalize the haters that's it whoever it may be.
being wrong /=/ hater as well.. again helps if i stop labeling folks..
labeling flipin perplexed this
Zoro got injured by big mom and kaido prior to his fight, Sanji let himself be a punching bag by black maria and even Queen that when he decided to get serious with his power up the fight already ended.
Oda stated that magma is hotter than fire, google search temperature of blue flames they are hotter than magma. So is Oda stating which sort of implies if akainus fist can go through Ace, than Sanji's foot can go through Akainu or technically speaking fire can be hotter than magma unless he wants Sabo to unluck a hidden power of aces DF against Akainu in the end who knows. Oda made cook based attacks even the leg lighting up as a match in which matches is used for cooking and so is propane. BB's strongest crew mate wanted the invisible fruit while Sanji can use its powers but threw it away. in the fishman island arc Zoro stated you dont need eyes when defeating a hench man with ability to blind opponents. I have no idea if shiryu can use Jozus DF as well creating an asspull. Having a stealth ability might suck anyways or not add much value since he was able to disappear from Oven's and than Queens line of sight saying he can move quicker, have heavier attacks because of exoskeleton. I think sanji can be a swordsman's nightmare if he used jozu's DF, used exoskeleton and used armament haki(to katakuri's level)
Zoro's upgrades is just to be better with haki and using more haki? will his next upgrade be getting one of the 10 supreme swords? the biggest arguements on 4chan is the thought of yamato joining or not? If she does join than Oda should prepare strong opponenets in Elbaf and eventually a huge war
Oda stated that magma is hotter than fire, google search temperature of blue flames they are hotter than magma. So is Oda stating which sort of implies if akainus fist can go through Ace, than Sanji's foot can go through Akainu or technically speaking fire can be hotter than magma unless he wants Sabo to unluck a hidden power of aces DF against Akainu in the end who knows. Oda made cook based attacks even the leg lighting up as a match in which matches is used for cooking and so is propane. BB's strongest crew mate wanted the invisible fruit while Sanji can use its powers but threw it away. in the fishman island arc Zoro stated you dont need eyes when defeating a hench man with ability to blind opponents. I have no idea if shiryu can use Jozus DF as well creating an asspull. Having a stealth ability might suck anyways or not add much value since he was able to disappear from Oven's and than Queens line of sight saying he can move quicker, have heavier attacks because of exoskeleton. I think sanji can be a swordsman's nightmare if he used jozu's DF, used exoskeleton and used armament haki(to katakuri's level)
Zoro's upgrades is just to be better with haki and using more haki? will his next upgrade be getting one of the 10 supreme swords? the biggest arguements on 4chan is the thought of yamato joining or not? If she does join than Oda should prepare strong opponenets in Elbaf and eventually a huge war
"Sanji won't fight King let alone King and Queen"
Reality: It did happened.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/sanji-will-fight-both-king-and-queen.10651/
Additional, Sanji saves Marco from King and Queen.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/will-sanji-saves-marco-and-fight-king-and-queen.11898/
"Sanji will get help from 69420 characters to extreme diff Queen"
Reality: Sanji mid diff Queen without the RS.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/sanji-will-mid-diff-queen-without-the-rs.15149/
"Sanji can't damage Queen"
Reality: Sanji makes Queen bleeds with base kick.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-were-saying-sanji-couldnt-hurt-queen.16628/
"Sanji is not part of Monster Trio"
"Sanji and Zoro doesn't have the same portrayal"
"Jinbei and Yamato replaces Sanji as M3"
Reality: Wings.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...not-real-or-sanji-got-kicked-out-of-m3.16629/
That's another 3 Ls for haters and 3 Ws for me at once.
"Sanji will keep the RS for the rest of his life"
Reality: Sanji destroyed the RS.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-keep-his-rs-till-the-end-of-one-piece.19316/
"Sanji's Ifrit Jambe isn't blue flames"
Reality: IJ is blue flames.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...jambe-ifrit-jambe-and-surtr-jambe-❤️🔥.19702/
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/sanji’s-ifrit-jambe-is-actually-blue-flame.19899/
Since I made two threads for it, that makes 2 W's for me.
"Sanji can't use CoA/Hardening"
Reality: Sanji did used CoA against Queen.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-say-sanji-doesn’t-have-can’t-use-coa.22364/
"Sanji fainted for the rest of Wano"
Reality: Sanji wakes up.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/remember-when-people-say-sanji-fainted.23582/
"Sanji's CoO isn't that good"
Reality: Sanji was the first one to sensed Luffy while he was sleeping, and he was also the farthest one away.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-best-coo-user-in-onigashima-right-now.23831/
And that's just my threads only, let alone my other comments that I didn't make a thread about plus the other Sanji fans' takes and threads.
Why I get so many W's against Sanji haters y'all might ask?
Reality: It did happened.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/sanji-will-fight-both-king-and-queen.10651/
Additional, Sanji saves Marco from King and Queen.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/will-sanji-saves-marco-and-fight-king-and-queen.11898/
"Sanji will get help from 69420 characters to extreme diff Queen"
Reality: Sanji mid diff Queen without the RS.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/sanji-will-mid-diff-queen-without-the-rs.15149/
"Sanji can't damage Queen"
Reality: Sanji makes Queen bleeds with base kick.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-were-saying-sanji-couldnt-hurt-queen.16628/
"Sanji is not part of Monster Trio"
"Sanji and Zoro doesn't have the same portrayal"
"Jinbei and Yamato replaces Sanji as M3"
Reality: Wings.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...not-real-or-sanji-got-kicked-out-of-m3.16629/
That's another 3 Ls for haters and 3 Ws for me at once.
"Sanji will keep the RS for the rest of his life"
Reality: Sanji destroyed the RS.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-keep-his-rs-till-the-end-of-one-piece.19316/
"Sanji's Ifrit Jambe isn't blue flames"
Reality: IJ is blue flames.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...jambe-ifrit-jambe-and-surtr-jambe-❤️🔥.19702/
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/sanji’s-ifrit-jambe-is-actually-blue-flame.19899/
Since I made two threads for it, that makes 2 W's for me.
"Sanji can't use CoA/Hardening"
Reality: Sanji did used CoA against Queen.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-say-sanji-doesn’t-have-can’t-use-coa.22364/
"Sanji fainted for the rest of Wano"
Reality: Sanji wakes up.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/remember-when-people-say-sanji-fainted.23582/
"Sanji's CoO isn't that good"
Reality: Sanji was the first one to sensed Luffy while he was sleeping, and he was also the farthest one away.✅
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-best-coo-user-in-onigashima-right-now.23831/
And that's just my threads only, let alone my other comments that I didn't make a thread about plus the other Sanji fans' takes and threads.
Why I get so many W's against Sanji haters y'all might ask?
